the Prophesied Iman Mahdi
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If it is just a "legend" , how come the Gospel
mentions it as 1260, spelled out in Revelations 113
and elsewhere ?
How come the same event is mentioned in the Quran
by the same exact hegira year (1260, 1267) ?
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Hey what I just posted there was history. The legend, no more like myth, of Imam Mahdi is a result of midieval Islamic faction political mumbo jumbo. If you want to believe in Revelations, thats fine go ahead, but Revelations itself is so fabricated its not even funny. If you are Christian, I can understand you believing in Revelations, but if you are a Muslim, then you might as well accept that Jesus was the son of God.
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I understand. How can we say the old and the new testament are ? fabricated ? or
even tampered, while the Qur?an validates them a authentic? How can we deny
verse 2247 that give the length of the Quoranic revelation as good for 1000 years ?
The thousand years is over now. I find quite strange that the religious gestapo of
some countries still ban the baha?is writings, depriving the people.
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The Quran verifies that there were previous scriptures sent down to Moses, David, and Jesus, but does it say that the Bible as we have it today is perfect? No. Infact it says the opposite. It says that the people invented laws, it says that the people differed after the revelation had been sent, it says the people hid the truth behind their backs. If you believe in the Quran, then you can't hold the Bible to be 100% accurate because with certain laws/stories the two books contradict. Point being, if you believe in the Quran then you cannot think that the Bible is correct in every corner. This is especially true with the New Testament which is no more than opinions in letters, fabricated prophecies from Pauls Christ, and hadith like gospels.
When it comes to Imam Mahdi, its clear that it was wishful tale of the Shias which was later absorbed into Sunnism. Its a historical fact that this concept was invented by 13th century shia politicians, so will you deny that and continue to believe some miracle man is going to walk out of a cave and save us?
Its interesting to note that even though this is such a late development in Islam, it is still put into the mouth of the Prophet and recorded in the hadith.
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Just to throw in some facts, not all parts of the Bible are endorsed by the Qur'an, only the Torah (Musa), Psalms (David), and Gospels (Jesus). And even these three are problematic, and the Qur'an corrects them (i.e. revising Genesis). Revelation does not count, of course.
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Greetings,
Is the Injeel of Isa about him? Very unlikely.
Anwar Azim
And to add to that, I wouldn't really say that the Injeel of Isa mentioned in the Quran is the Gospels of the NT. Gospels are more like stories about Jesus in certain communities that were later compiled into seperate books.
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This is perfect! This fits my ideas that i've posted briefly in the Jinn = Reptilian post.
The way i see it, many prophecies about a "saviour" coming at some End Time moment are fabricated. I don't know if anyone is familiar with the novel Dune by Frank Herbert, but basically you have a mysterious/religious Order whose factions implant prophecies in less developed societies in case they would need to call upon them sometime in the future in order to take control of that society. This is pre-planning on a GRAND scale..conspiracy galore.
What we have here could very well be something similar. Secret societies, Jinn, Illuminati or whatever... have implanted these prophecies in major religions and are fulfilling them themselves so that many will be fooled into following them and submitting to their New World Order which is a very real event in the coming years. Nothing like a worldwide tyrannical government to give a proper sense of "peace and order". Manipulate/create world events in order to make people see whatis not their in prophecy and voila! presto! fulfillment.
Massiach of the Jews, Jesus' Second Coming and our own Mahdi may very well be the counterfeits that ppl will blindly follow because all these prophecies have crept into the mainstream of major belief systems.
Yet...i cannot help myself but believe in some sort of actual coming world conflict that will destroy many..but that there will be Divine intervention of some sort...sigh
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Assalam-O-Alicum
The Quran tell us about past, present, and as well as future any Ayat which tell us about past is also tell us about present and future if you read and think and apply the Ayat in proper Era.
In Allah?s presence, all time is one. Future, past, and present are experienced all at once. In some verses, the events of the Day of Judgment, Hell and Paradise are related as if they have already taken place. The following verses are an example of this
The Trumpet is blown, and all who are in the heavens and all who are on Earth swoon away, save him whom Allah wills. Then it is blown a second time, and behold them standing waiting! And Earth shone with the light of her Lord, the Book is set up, the Prophets and the witnesses are brought, and it is judged between them with truth. They are not wronged. (Surat az-Zumar 68-69)Muffhum of One hadith about Imam Mahdi (RA) Rasullullah peace be upon Him tell about "Rulling Era of Iman Mahdi (RA) will be Like the Rulling Eras of Dhu?l-Qarnayn (as) and Hazrat Prophet Sulayman's (as)."
So if you read about Hazrat Dhu?l-Qarnayn (as) and Hazrat Prophet Sulayman's (as) in Quran and also apply prophecies of Rasullullah peace be upon him about Iman Mahdi (RA) and End of Time to it then may be you are able to see Era of Imam Mahdi (RA).
Wassalam
They said, ?Glory be to You! We have no knowledge except what You have taught us. You are the All-Knowing, the All-Wise." (Surat al-Baqara 32)
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Assalam-O-Alicum
The Quran tell us about past, present, and as well as future any Ayat which tell us about past is also tell us about present and future if you read and think and apply the Ayat in proper Era.
In Allah?s presence, all time is one. Future, past, and present are experienced all at once. In some verses, the events of the Day of Judgment, Hell and Paradise are related as if they have already taken place. The following verses are an example of this
The Trumpet is blown, and all who are in the heavens and all who are on Earth swoon away, save him whom Allah wills. Then it is blown a second time, and behold them standing waiting! And Earth shone with the light of her Lord, the Book is set up, the Prophets and the witnesses are brought, and it is judged between them with truth. They are not wronged. (Surat az-Zumar 68-69)Muffhum of One hadith about Imam Mahdi (RA) Rasullullah peace be upon Him tell about "Rulling Era of Iman Mahdi (RA) will be Like the Rulling Eras of Dhu?l-Qarnayn (as) and Hazrat Prophet Sulayman's (as)."
So if you read about Hazrat Dhu?l-Qarnayn (as) and Hazrat Prophet Sulayman's (as) in Quran and also apply prophecies of Rasullullah peace be upon him about Iman Mahdi (RA) and End of Time to it then may be you are able to see Era of Imam Mahdi (RA).
Wassalam
They said, ?Glory be to You! We have no knowledge except what You have taught us. You are the All-Knowing, the All-Wise." (Surat al-Baqara 32)
Peace Kalo,
Perhaps you haven't noticed that us regulars of FM do not accept hadiths, and so we don't accept the extra Quranic concept of Imam Mahdi.
Anyway, welcome to the forum.
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Osama bin Laden is the Mahdi and Taliban are the black flags of Khurasan.
Well planned conspiracy by the Illuminati and classic form of rewriting history.
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peace
it's not "Qurani" at all, the only backup for the advent of imam mahdi is from hadiths.
see, this is what i see as a problem in many major belief systems.
the jews are waiting for their version of the "messiah" to come and save them.
the christians are waiting for the "second coming of christ" to come and save them.
the muslims are waiting for "the second coming of christ" and "imam mahdi" to come and save them.
and i'd imagine that several other belief systems have some sort of saviour ideology as well, although those i am not as familiar with.
but here's my point
read the Quran. it does not tell you to wait until someone comes to save you. it tells you to take the steps to save yourself now.
guess i'll have to keep repeating myself til somebody pays attention.
the mahdi stories come from the story of tulat in the quran when a prophet answered the jews as to who will be there king. this is the base of the story but many people have added many other things to it. the lineage of the prophet to the mahdi is added because of the prophets were all of one bloodline in accord with ALLAH's promise to Abraham.
each of the monotheist religions have similar stoires because of this reason. remember we must look at the end of our lives as will as the end of all life as two different events independent of each other, the world will continue to end as it loses balance. this is why the quran is the oft-repeated book it will continue to repeat in the stories of our lives individually and as a whole.put it this way when you die your world ends....correct?