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3:14 women or most modern things?

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    abdalquran
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    This is an attempt to make the Quran progressive and Modern

    Regards

    As opposed to the earlier attempt to make the Quran a tool to make women sexual objects

    Btw, translating an-nisaa as 'the women' leads to one of two conclusions

    1. women are not part of humankind (3/14 talks of an-naas/humankind)
    2. women lust after women.

    THAT'S the reasoning q_student would have us swallow? No thanks.

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      nsws1988
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      I don't think it has to be sexual. Spouses are a blessing. The Quran usually speaks to men such as 2221 and 2235 but it doesn't mean that the same cannot apply to women too.

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        unknownuser
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        I don't think it has to be sexual. Spouses are a blessing. The Quran usually speaks to men such as 2221 and 2235 but it doesn't mean that the same cannot apply to women too.

        where exactly is an-naas = men only in those two verses?

        read 314 again

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          nsws1988
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          where exactly is an-naas = men only in those two verses?

          read 314 again

          i didn't say it says men. look at the 2 examples that i gave - do they say 'men'?

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            Q_student
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            i didn't say it says men. look at the 2 examples that i gave - do they say 'men'?

            Peace
            To translate "Al-nisaa" other than "women" is nothing but just ignorance of Arabic and attempt for distortion of language.

            Al-nisaa = plural of "imra'atun" (woman).

            Regards

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              abdalquran
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              Peace
              To translate "Al-nisaa" other than "women" is nothing but just ignorance of Arabic and attempt for distortion of language.

              Al-nisaa = plural of "imra'atun" (woman).

              This beautiful language of Arabic, in which words like 'ktb' can have so many manifestations like kataba, yaktub, maktab, maktub, kaatib etc, but for the word 'nisaa', the plural is imra'at? LOL.

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                Q_student
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                This beautiful language of Arabic, in which words like 'ktb' can have so many manifestations like kataba, yaktub, maktab, maktub, kaatib etc, but for the word 'nisaa', the plural is imra'at? LOL.

                Brother !
                It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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                Regards

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                  abdalquran
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                  Sorry, I refer to Quranic language, not the broken unsystematic arabic you guys use. Where no words are related and (coincidentally) the Quran can't explain itself. You stick to your broken plurals, mate. Salat = du'a, right?

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                    unknownuser
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                    Brother !
                    It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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                    Regards

                    get rid of that idol asap brother. it won't let you understand the message of God. Peace

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                      Samia
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                      Brother !
                      It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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                      Regards

                      Also from Lisaanul 3arab

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                        Q_student
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                        Sorry, I refer to Quranic language, not the broken unsystematic arabic you guys use. Where no words are related and (coincidentally) the Quran can't explain itself. You stick to your broken plurals, mate. Salat = du'a, right?

                        Quran

                        You want to say in the following Aya it is the "modern things" which are menstruating ??

                        In this Aya you want to say that these are the "modern things" which are divorced and married?

                        Please do not try to befool the public ?

                        Regards

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                          unknownuser
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                          Quran

                          You want to say in the following Aya it is the "modern things" which are menstruating ??

                          In this Aya you want to say that these are the "modern things" which are divorced and married?

                          Please do not try to befool the public ?

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                          don't forget the context, use your common sense.

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                            Q_student
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                            Also from Lisaanul 3arab

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                            Where does it say that "Al-nisaa" is NOT plural of imra'atun" ?

                            Regards

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                              Ahmad_Bilal
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                              I don't understand the discrepancy. The word "nisaa" means women. Therefore, "al nisaa" means the women. There's an entire chapter of the Qur'aan dedicated to this subject (i.e. Q. chapter 4). The Qur'aanic usage of "al nasii" (Q. 937) is not the same thing. I've never heard of "nisaa" being translated as modern things by anyone.

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                                abdalquran
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                                Dr Mohamed Shahrour of Syria understands nisaa in 3/14 as 'latest trends'. His website is www.shahrour.org

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                                  abdalquran
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                                  Where does it say that "Al-nisaa" is NOT plural of imra'atun" ?

                                  Regards

                                  I think Samia's point is that there are OTHER meanings as well. Please don't pretend like there aren't.

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14a.gif

                                    For people a source of attraction has been made the desire/love in wives and sons
                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14b.gif
                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14c.gif

                                    and heaps of piled up gold and silver and marked/pedigree horses and mammals and harvesting lands.

                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14g.gif

                                    This is the sustenance/provision of transitory worldly life.

                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14d.gif
                                    And Allah is the One from whom is the most appropriate return/abode.

                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/03.%2001--.htm

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                                      Q_student
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                                      I think Samia's point is that there are OTHER meanings as well. Please don't pretend like there aren't.

                                      Your thought is wrong .She does not know even how to consult the dictionary.
                                      This word is "Al nisaa'o".She is looking for "Al-nasaa'o" which is a different word.

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                                      Regards

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                                        Mazhar
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                                        To Learn Arabic i.e The language of the Quran ,free download

                                        http//www.kalamullah.com/learning-arabic.html

                                        An error occurs while opening file, it does not open.

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                                          Q_student
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                                          An error occurs while opening file, it does not open.

                                          peace
                                          please try again ,because I can open it correctly.
                                          Regards

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