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3:14 women or most modern things?

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    abdalquran
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    Peace
    To translate "Al-nisaa" other than "women" is nothing but just ignorance of Arabic and attempt for distortion of language.

    Al-nisaa = plural of "imra'atun" (woman).

    This beautiful language of Arabic, in which words like 'ktb' can have so many manifestations like kataba, yaktub, maktab, maktub, kaatib etc, but for the word 'nisaa', the plural is imra'at? LOL.

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      This beautiful language of Arabic, in which words like 'ktb' can have so many manifestations like kataba, yaktub, maktab, maktub, kaatib etc, but for the word 'nisaa', the plural is imra'at? LOL.

      Brother !
      It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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        abdalquran
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        Sorry, I refer to Quranic language, not the broken unsystematic arabic you guys use. Where no words are related and (coincidentally) the Quran can't explain itself. You stick to your broken plurals, mate. Salat = du'a, right?

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          unknownuser
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          Brother !
          It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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          get rid of that idol asap brother. it won't let you understand the message of God. Peace

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            Samia
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            Brother !
            It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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            Also from Lisaanul 3arab

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              Q_student
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              Sorry, I refer to Quranic language, not the broken unsystematic arabic you guys use. Where no words are related and (coincidentally) the Quran can't explain itself. You stick to your broken plurals, mate. Salat = du'a, right?

              Quran

              You want to say in the following Aya it is the "modern things" which are menstruating ??

              In this Aya you want to say that these are the "modern things" which are divorced and married?

              Please do not try to befool the public ?

              Regards

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                unknownuser
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                Quran

                You want to say in the following Aya it is the "modern things" which are menstruating ??

                In this Aya you want to say that these are the "modern things" which are divorced and married?

                Please do not try to befool the public ?

                Regards

                don't forget the context, use your common sense.

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                  Q_student
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                  Also from Lisaanul 3arab

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                  Where does it say that "Al-nisaa" is NOT plural of imra'atun" ?

                  Regards

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                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                    I don't understand the discrepancy. The word "nisaa" means women. Therefore, "al nisaa" means the women. There's an entire chapter of the Qur'aan dedicated to this subject (i.e. Q. chapter 4). The Qur'aanic usage of "al nasii" (Q. 937) is not the same thing. I've never heard of "nisaa" being translated as modern things by anyone.

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                      abdalquran
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                      Dr Mohamed Shahrour of Syria understands nisaa in 3/14 as 'latest trends'. His website is www.shahrour.org

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                        abdalquran
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                        Where does it say that "Al-nisaa" is NOT plural of imra'atun" ?

                        Regards

                        I think Samia's point is that there are OTHER meanings as well. Please don't pretend like there aren't.

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                          Mazhar
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                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14a.gif

                          For people a source of attraction has been made the desire/love in wives and sons
                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14b.gif
                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14c.gif

                          and heaps of piled up gold and silver and marked/pedigree horses and mammals and harvesting lands.

                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14g.gif

                          This is the sustenance/provision of transitory worldly life.

                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.14d.gif
                          And Allah is the One from whom is the most appropriate return/abode.

                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/03.%2001--.htm

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                            Q_student
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                            I think Samia's point is that there are OTHER meanings as well. Please don't pretend like there aren't.

                            Your thought is wrong .She does not know even how to consult the dictionary.
                            This word is "Al nisaa'o".She is looking for "Al-nasaa'o" which is a different word.

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                              Mazhar
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                              To Learn Arabic i.e The language of the Quran ,free download

                              http//www.kalamullah.com/learning-arabic.html

                              An error occurs while opening file, it does not open.

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                                Q_student
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                                An error occurs while opening file, it does not open.

                                peace
                                please try again ,because I can open it correctly.
                                Regards

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                                  kn
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                                  How about the following

                                  http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000039.pdf

                                  Women does not seem to be the primary meanings.

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                                    Recluse
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                                    Khalifa
                                    Adorned for the people are the worldly pleasures, such as the women...

                                    Women are worldly pleasures for women?

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                                      Q_student
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                                      Women are worldly pleasures for women?

                                      Inna lillaahi wa inna ilaihay Raaji3oon.

                                      He might be thinking "women" as "gratification tool".
                                      Regards

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                                        nsws1988
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                                        Women are worldly pleasures for women?

                                        With that line of thinking...

                                        If you deem it best for the orphans, you may marry their mothers - you may marry two, three, or four. If you fear lest you become unfair, then you shall be content with only one, or with what you already have. Additionally, you are thus more likely to avoid financial hardship

                                        ... women can marry the mothers of orphans?

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                                          Samia
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                                          Your thought is wrong .She does not know even how to consult the dictionary.
                                          This word is "Al nisaa'o".She is looking for "Al-nasaa'o" which is a different word.

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                                          Regards

                                          How do you know that this is not the word and the diacritical sign was put to change it? Don't bet on diacritics when dealing with the qur'aan...and the dictionaries.
                                          Have you ever asked yourself where the word "nisaa'" as plural for "imra'atun" comes from? Can't you use your logic?
                                          Just like "rijaal" is used as plural for " imri'un/ masculine for imraa'atun", and we know from the qur'aan that "rijaal" also means "walking/ going forth", so the mirrored meaning for "nisaa'/women" would be those who are staying behind/late. It's a sociolinguist plural, not a linguist one.
                                          Consulting a dictionary should be carried out with analysis and criticism...and has nothing to do with copy/paste

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