3:14 women or most modern things?

nsws1988

Progressive muslims
It has been adorned for people to love the desire of the most modern things, and buildings, and ornaments made from gold and silver, and trained horses, and the livestock, and fields. These are the enjoyment of the world, and with God are the best goods

Khalifa
Adorned for the people are the worldly pleasures, such as the women, having children, piles upon piles of gold and silver, trained horses, livestock, and crops. These are the materials of this world. A far better abode is reserved at GOD

All other translations I have read translate 'nisa' as women. How did Progressive muslims translate it as 'modern things'?

Also, all other translations translate 'benin' as children except Progressive muslims who translate it as 'buildings'. Why is that?

Q_student

Progressive muslims
It has been adorned for people to love the desire of the most modern things, and buildings, and ornaments made from gold and silver, and trained horses, and the livestock, and fields. These are the enjoyment of the world, and with God are the best goods

Khalifa
Adorned for the people are the worldly pleasures, such as the women, having children, piles upon piles of gold and silver, trained horses, livestock, and crops. These are the materials of this world. A far better abode is reserved at GOD

All other translations I have read translate 'nisa' as women. How did Progressive muslims translate it as 'modern things'?

Also, all other translations translate 'benin' as children except Progressive muslims who translate it as 'buildings'. Why is that?

This is an attempt to make the Quran progressive and Modern

Regards

unknownuser

All other translations I have read translate 'nisa' as women. How did Progressive muslims translate it as 'modern things'?

I think, because nisa also means to postpone/that comes later/ latest. from that they translated it as "modern things"

937

Postponing (of the sacred month) is only an addition in unbelief

abdalquran

This is an attempt to make the Quran progressive and Modern

Regards

As opposed to the earlier attempt to make the Quran a tool to make women sexual objects

Btw, translating an-nisaa as 'the women' leads to one of two conclusions

women are not part of humankind (3/14 talks of an-naas/humankind)
women lust after women.

THAT'S the reasoning q_student would have us swallow? No thanks.

nsws1988

I don't think it has to be sexual. Spouses are a blessing. The Quran usually speaks to men such as 2221 and 2235 but it doesn't mean that the same cannot apply to women too.

unknownuser

I don't think it has to be sexual. Spouses are a blessing. The Quran usually speaks to men such as 2221 and 2235 but it doesn't mean that the same cannot apply to women too.

where exactly is an-naas = men only in those two verses?

read 314 again

nsws1988

where exactly is an-naas = men only in those two verses?

read 314 again

i didn't say it says men. look at the 2 examples that i gave - do they say 'men'?

Q_student

i didn't say it says men. look at the 2 examples that i gave - do they say 'men'?

Peace
To translate "Al-nisaa" other than "women" is nothing but just ignorance of Arabic and attempt for distortion of language.

Al-nisaa = plural of "imra'atun" (woman).

Regards

abdalquran

Peace
To translate "Al-nisaa" other than "women" is nothing but just ignorance of Arabic and attempt for distortion of language.

Al-nisaa = plural of "imra'atun" (woman).

This beautiful language of Arabic, in which words like 'ktb' can have so many manifestations like kataba, yaktub, maktab, maktub, kaatib etc, but for the word 'nisaa', the plural is imra'at? LOL.

Q_student

This beautiful language of Arabic, in which words like 'ktb' can have so many manifestations like kataba, yaktub, maktab, maktub, kaatib etc, but for the word 'nisaa', the plural is imra'at? LOL.

Brother !
It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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Regards

abdalquran

Sorry, I refer to Quranic language, not the broken unsystematic arabic you guys use. Where no words are related and (coincidentally) the Quran can't explain itself. You stick to your broken plurals, mate. Salat = du'a, right?

unknownuser

Brother !
It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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Regards

get rid of that idol asap brother. it won't let you understand the message of God. Peace

Samia

Brother !
It is not the only word in Arabic which has plural in different way.

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Regards

Also from Lisaanul 3arab

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Q_student

Sorry, I refer to Quranic language, not the broken unsystematic arabic you guys use. Where no words are related and (coincidentally) the Quran can't explain itself. You stick to your broken plurals, mate. Salat = du'a, right?

Quran

You want to say in the following Aya it is the "modern things" which are menstruating ??

In this Aya you want to say that these are the "modern things" which are divorced and married?

Please do not try to befool the public ?

Regards

unknownuser

Quran

You want to say in the following Aya it is the "modern things" which are menstruating ??

In this Aya you want to say that these are the "modern things" which are divorced and married?

Please do not try to befool the public ?

Regards

don't forget the context, use your common sense.

Q_student

Also from Lisaanul 3arab

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Where does it say that "Al-nisaa" is NOT plural of imra'atun" ?

Regards

Ahmad_Bilal

I don't understand the discrepancy. The word "nisaa" means women. Therefore, "al nisaa" means the women. There's an entire chapter of the Qur'aan dedicated to this subject (i.e. Q. chapter 4). The Qur'aanic usage of "al nasii" (Q. 937) is not the same thing. I've never heard of "nisaa" being translated as modern things by anyone.

abdalquran

Dr Mohamed Shahrour of Syria understands nisaa in 3/14 as 'latest trends'. His website is www.shahrour.org

abdalquran

Where does it say that "Al-nisaa" is NOT plural of imra'atun" ?

Regards

I think Samia's point is that there are OTHER meanings as well. Please don't pretend like there aren't.

Mazhar

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For people a source of attraction has been made the desire/love in wives and sons
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and heaps of piled up gold and silver and marked/pedigree horses and mammals and harvesting lands.

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This is the sustenance/provision of transitory worldly life.

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And Allah is the One from whom is the most appropriate return/abode.

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