In the begining God made Science
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... Consider this simple fact, if you travel twenty miles off the surface of the Earth there is absolutely no gravity, ...
I think you might feel differently about that if you were pushed out of a spaceship at that altitude!
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Salaam,
for a mind that wishes to believe only in truth, close investigation of science, economics, philosophy, history and literature are essential, I realise, if at this point you believe, the strange version of physics given by Rev John, or the conventional view expressed by Alamsulten, you may never have considered an evidence based view.
As for changing my mind about gravity if I was push from a spaceship, no, there is a force of attraction to the Earth close to it, but that is not an attraction of mass, this to someone who only understands superficially, may sound puzzling.
The scientific papers I have posted on my website in support of my views are not written by me, the Author is stated, if you would like to investigate these question further, I could help, but if you wish to make snide and pointless comments, then you would be a non-believer in truth, and only interested in conjecture, and for those I have better things to do with my time.
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It is true that the electromagnetic forces are stronger than gravity. I learned this in physics last month.
Which grade are you in? I'm in 8th grade.
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It is true that the electromagnetic forces are stronger than gravity. I learned this in physics last month. )
Well it is per unit of mass/energy but if we now gave Abdun Nur a suit of iron armour before giving him the shove at twenty miles altitude, gravity would be the force bringing him down to earth not magnetism. He would blonk down somewhere in the equitorial regions rather than breaking through the ice at the magnetic north pole - assuming his departure from earth was from the same region, as the earths rotation helps launches to that altitude.
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Salaam Alamsiltan,
you think there is an attraction of mass? There is a force of attraction to the earth as I said, you seem to want to express stupid and pointless remarks, you have not investigated anything, simply accepted the conjecture of indoctrination, who then thinks they can make snide comments, next you'll be tell everyone the gravity of the Sun pulls the Earth around its orbit, you should investigate if they apply the force of gravity in the calculation for orbits, they do not?
I'll ask you this of your conventional physics, a simple question, explain exactly what 'charge' is, and I don't mean what charge does?
And even simpler question for conventional physics, what is energy, again not what it does?
I can ask you another question of conventional physics, if energy can not be created nor destroyed as they propagate falsely, why does the power of an earth magnet pour out energy without end, in fact it is the conversion of this endless energy source, that all electrical generators utilise to produce electricity.
Explain if the Sun is a nuclear furnace why the surface is around 6000c while the atmosphere is around 2000000c, as a nuclear reaction heats from the inside out, not the outside in?
If you have a gravity driven universe as you laughably suggest, you would need 96% more mass than is in existence, and that is only to balance the mathematic formulas that in themselves are simple abstract mathematical models.
Don?t express such rubbish as unit mass/energy without explaining why you think , if you consider the strength of gravity as 1, in comparison to the strength of the electromagnetic force which is 1036, and the really stupid notion that a suit of armour would increase my attraction when there would be no atmosphere, and without an atmosphere forming resistance upon the surface area, the force of electromagnetic attraction, or gravity as you call it, would have no greater effect on a block of lead or a block of wood, as for acceleration of a falling object, after 10 seconds the air's resistance force equals gravity's effects and that's when your acceleration becomes zero. You have reached the speed limit,it is again you complete lack of knowledge of the force you think so powerful.
Explain this question, if I was stood at the foot of a vast mountain, why does its mass not attract me at all, why do I not get pulled sideways towards the enormous mass?
I could continue but you will not answer the question anyway, so I?ll end here.
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Salaam,
for a mind that wishes to believe only in truth, close investigation of science, economics, philosophy, history and literature are essential, I realise, if at this point you believe, the strange version of physics given by Rev John, or the conventional view expressed by Alamsulten, you may never have considered an evidence based view.
As for changing my mind about gravity if I was push from a spaceship, no, there is a force of attraction to the Earth close to it, but that is not an attraction of mass, this to someone who only understands superficially, may sound puzzling.
The scientific papers I have posted on my website in support of my views are not written by me, the Author is stated, if you would like to investigate these question further, I could help, but if you wish to make snide and pointless comments, then you would be a non-believer in truth, and only interested in conjecture, and for those I have better things to do with my time.
Peace Abdun Nur
I particularly enjoyed the documentary on plasma universe (cant remember the actual name of documentary) you linked on another thread. I recommend others to watch. I also agree with electromagnetic forces being stronger in the universe than gravitational. Just out of interest how will you explain a blackhole? A electromagnetic or gravitational force? But congratulations on your research of knowledge, education is the key to unlocking many truths in my opinion.
Peace
Hope
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Salaam,
I noticed on my previous post I put 1036, the 36 should have been smaller, 10 to the 36, anyway, black holes, and dark matter are both inventions to explain the lies of the gravity based universe; there exists, they speculate, around 500,000,000,000 galaxies surrounding the Milky way, the conventional physicists tell us each has a black hole at its heart, yet they needed to produce an artists impression to post on the Hubble site, to show us how they should look, quiet amusing, what is truly funny is that people accept the tissue of lies without ever investigating anything, and what is truly annoying is they will both propagate and vigorously defend these lies, based solely on conjecture, they see expert opinion as infallible.
People like the Zionist Einstein intentionally created a fantasy model based on abstract mathematics, and his banking supporters forced the universities, through the control of the funding, to teach his views, the bankers also only fund scientific projects that are in support of these lies, the bankers had to hijack physics at that point, as if you understand it correctly energy is freely available to all, no pollution, no shortages, no conflicts, no monopolies, the laws of thermodynamic are backwards, it is impossible to create a closed energy system as they describe anywhere in the entire universe, not even in a lab.
The entire sovereign system of control is balanced on the charging of energy, these individuals who parasite off the poor and powerless, must control the minds of the people, this is called subjugation, and this is all that enslaves you, refuse to be subjugated to be free, search out the truth in every avenue of knowledge.
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Selam Abdun Nur
Very interesting claims. I say claims at this point as I have not varified any of it yet as I have not research in this area, but very interesting. So the blackhole theory is a baseless theory according to your sources. The claim is that the gravity is so great that light could not even escape its surface, but I am not disputing with your theory as I have no knowledge on this matter. A question. You say they are teaching Einsteins theory in university. Where are they teaching the theory which aposes it?
On another point there was a claim at one point that someone was able to control cold fusion in a lab,it turned out to be false claims. However, if we consider the impact of such a discovery, the world will change over night. No more need for combustion based fuel. Lot of companies will go bust. I personally believe someone somewhere has managed to or very close to unlocking the secrets to producing fuel which is both clean as well as in abundance. However, I don't believe we will live to see it in our life time. Too much money to be made at present with oil, gas etc.. Who knows hey?
Peace
Hope
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Selam Abdun Nur
Very interesting claims. I say claims at this point as I have not varified any of it yet as I have not research in this area, but very interesting. So the blackhole theory is a baseless theory according to your sources. The claim is that the gravity is so great that light could not even escape its surface, but I am not disputing with your theory as I have no knowledge on this matter. A question. You say they are teaching Einsteins theory in university. Where are they teaching the theory which aposes it?
On another point there was a claim at one point that someone was able to control cold fusion in a lab,it turned out to be false claims. However, if we consider the impact of such a discovery, the world will change over night. No more need for combustion based fuel. Lot of companies will go bust. I personally believe someone somewhere has managed to or very close to unlocking the secrets to producing fuel which is both clean as well as in abundance. However, I don't believe we will live to see it in our life time. Too much money to be made at present with oil, gas etc.. Who knows hey?
Peace
Hope
That is interesting as black holes have been detected and "seen". As for "cold fusion" it is, at present, thought to be impossible; but, of course, the impossible in science has a habit of becoming possible.
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Salaam Rev John,
it is without doubt black holes are pure conjecture, they will infer existence through other effects, this is not seen, please sight a link to this information.
Rev John, you think energy can not be created nor destroyed, every atom in existence breaks this man made law, explain an earth magnet, is an easy example, it pours out energy endlessly, all dynamos utilise this endless field, of course I am talking to myself.
I have little interest in cold fusion, I would be more interested in a simple method of converting magnetic fields into electrical fields without movement, one way to do this is to pull part of the north face of the magnet into the south face, the fields are agitated in so pull the electrical field from the magnetic, this has been achieve , but not commercially developed.
Another method is magnetic gates, this has real possibilities in large volume electrical production, but one of the problems with extracting free energy from the fluidic manifold is people like Rev John, so invested in the lies of the establishment they can not see further than the end of their nose.
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This is what you call evidence, the article states exactly at the end, this is not proof of anything, pure conjecture
"September 4, 2008?A supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way has wound up in the crosshairs of a virtual telescope spanning 2,800 miles (4,506 kilometers).
Ground-based radio telescopes in Hawaii, Arizona, and California aimed at Sagittarius A*?also called A-star?obtained the image (above, a previous picture of the black hole).
The star is believed to mark the position of a black hole four million times the sun's mass.
Though unproven, there is strong evidence for the existence of black holes. "
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Salaam,
I noticed on my previous post I put 1036, the 36 should have been smaller, 10 to the 36, anyway, black holes, and dark matter are both inventions to explain the lies of the gravity based universe; there exists, they speculate, around 500,000,000,000 galaxies surrounding the Milky way, the conventional physicists tell us each has a black hole at its heart, yet they needed to produce an artists impression to post on the Hubble site, to show us how they should look, quiet amusing, what is truly funny is that people accept the tissue of lies without ever investigating anything, and what is truly annoying is they will both propagate and vigorously defend these lies, based solely on conjecture, they see expert opinion as infallible.
Black holes cannot be seen because of their strong gravity. Visible light cannot escape black holes because of it.
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Salaam Munzir,
yes I know what they say about the lie of black holes, you state it as a fact, but it is without any doubt absolute rubbish, even the king of Einsteinian physics stephen hawkings has stated he no longer thinks blackholes exist, you should ponder this, do you seriously believe the most powerful and dominant force in the universe is gravity?
It is the weakest force known to man, as I told you if gravity is 1, magnetic-elecro fields are 10 to the 36, which do you think the more likely to dominate the universe?
Do not be fooled by the ignorance of Rev John, his first name should expose his level of thought, in a plasma based universe, everything works according to the existing observed natural order, you do not need to invent lies, like black holes and dark matter, have you noticed they must be invisible to exist, the emperors new suit.
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One last point to consider, plasma, the fourth state of matter, makes up around 99.99% of the matter of the universe, you should investigate plasma to understand creation, not gravity.
Peace Abdun Nur
Can plasma which makes up 99.99% be the dark matter scientist have been going on about?
http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4679220.stm
However, it is considered the universe is made up of around 80-85% dark matter.
PeaceHope