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    Abdun_Nur
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    Salaam Munzir Ali,

    it's not personal attacks but idealogical, I have explained why the Rev is wrong in his assertion that things are established truths, like the big bang, black holes or dark matter, when in fact they are pure seculation on the part of the conventional establishment, to justify Einsteinian / Newtonian physics, when the physical evidence has no support for them. If I have been over zealous with my posting, I apologise to Rev John, if he wishes to justify with some physical evidence his assertions, I will examine and debate his views without further conflict.

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      Peace Abdun Nur

      I have done a bit of research on the plasma theory and find it amazing. I recommend people watch http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEbatH0ssYE and http//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374#

      It makes a lot of sense and thank you for bringing this to our attention. I think it explains a lot of physics which otherwise was left with loads of ??? One thing I havent yet understood, as it was only touched on was the blackhole, they dismissed the gravitational theory and thats fine I understand that but what replaced the blackhole theory was not explained. I may need to look into that, but if you have good links please share.

      There was one quote which stood out for me "The fact that a theory is able to describe an observation, does not mean the observation proves the theory" and how true this is.

      Peace

      Hope

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        ...
        There was one quote which stood out for me "The fact that a theory is able to describe an observation, does not mean the observation proves the theory" and how true this is.

        Peace

        Hope

        This is based on a misconception about science and proof. In science the only poofs are in mathematics which doesn't depend on observations. Evidence is what is pertinent to science not proofs. As more observations fit the explanation the evidence mounts supporting. Science works on the basis of what is the best explanation for the evidence at the present time and this is always changing. Sometimes it changes in a revolutionary way but for the most it changes by gradual refinement. This doesn't mean it changes willy nilly though. Einsteins relativity was a revolutionary theory but at the same time it was a refinement on Newtonian physics. The real test is in predictions and consistancy. The currently accepted theory of a phenomenon is simply the best explanation for it among all available alternatives.

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          This is based on a misconception about science and proof. In science the only poofs are in mathematics which doesn't depend on observations. Evidence is what is pertinent to science not proofs. As more observations fit the explanation the evidence mounts supporting. Science works on the basis of what is the best explanation for the evidence at the present time and this is always changing. Sometimes it changes in a revolutionary way but for the most it changes by gradual refinement. This doesn't mean it changes willy nilly though. Einsteins relativity was a revolutionary theory but at the same time it was a refinement on Newtonian physics. The real test is in predictions and consistancy. The currently accepted theory of a phenomenon is simply the best explanation for it among all available alternatives.

          Selam

          Totally agree with you, thats why when their calculations did not add up they try to fit their calculations in with unknowns which was effecting the calculations rather than reject the theory and go back to the blackboard.

          Peace

          Hope

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            Selam

            Totally agree with you, thats why when their calculations did not add up they try to fit their calculations in with unknowns which was effecting the calculations rather than reject the theory and go back to the blackboard.

            Peace

            Hope

            Well I'm not sure exactly which calculations you are referring to however the big bang theory and mainstream cosmology have made predictions which have later been shown to be observable in contrast to plasma cosmology which has not come up with any predictions. Most notably are the results from the COBE (Cosmic Background Explorer) mission.
            What yopu write reminds me of Einstein's blunder in adding an unknown to make the universe a steady state one as he couldn't imagine it was really expanding.
            The currently accepted theory of the Big Bang, the role of gravitation, dark matter etc. is simply the best explanation for the observable properties of the universe among all available alternatives including plasma cosmology.

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