This is sickening to watch...Help!!!
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http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDuG7vgeSk
Please let us share our thoughts of how to protect God's Messages from These Radicals who are insisting to destroy the true Message of Quran... I have been sick to my stomach since I saw them in CNN last night.
Peace,
Respectfully.I have an idea let's start with just opening subjects.
I usually open specific subjects that are marked as controversial in the society.
It gets going.
Especially in London. London is, best to my knowledge, open minded city with people who are open minded, Thank God.
Here in Slovenia .....boring.Peace.
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Just to note, that big guy quoting the Quran saying Quran commands us to terrorise the enemies (referring to 8/60) quoted the word right (turhiboona) but the context absolutely wrong. 8/60 is directed to believers (people would accept all commands to believers from Quran, which includes 2/190). Believers in Quran, if pushed to a situation of war, cant carry out the war like cowards on people they made pledges with (pledges like vowing to serve in the army, for example). Another thing to mention is the phrase after 'turhiboona' which 'enemies of Allah'. Who are enemies of Allah? Every 'non-Muslim' or simply ppl who cause mischief on earth (like his heroes).
These people are like typical traditionists, they only read half of quran (to justify their evil). Thanks for the heads up, belal.
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Peace,
Respectfully.I have an idea let's start with just opening subjects.
I usually open specific subjects that are marked as controversial in the society.
It gets going.
Especially in London. London is, best to my knowledge, open minded city with people who are open minded, Thank God.
Here in Slovenia .....boring.Peace.
yay you are back!
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Peace,
Am i the only one who does not interpret the word
in 95 as "kill" or "slay"?(yes, even in the context of war!)
This is something i written before
Now that i learn the Quran myself and try to find the true literal meaning of the words used, i came to the conclusion that "believers" are never ordered to kill.
In any situation, even in the times of war, they are commanded to preserve life--anyone's life--the best way they can, with explicit expressions of God's forgiveness and mercy (for example 95). On that verse, i don't believe that the word "kill" is an accurate translation. Unfortunately, the common translations are "kill" or "slay". After comparing the word q-T-l to the roots q-T and q-t, i concluded (my opinion) that the meaning of the word is closer to "tear ~ apart" or "break ~ down" (the large group into smaller groups or individuals), which is more in harmony with the rest of the verse.
I do not say that "casualties" are avoidable.
Insisting "not to kill" also implies that the believers must be much much stronger than the enemy. Or much much cleverer.
What d'you say? Naive me? Or do you see the logic behind "tearing/breaking the enemies apart/down into smaller groups"?
Peace.
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Meet Islamic fundamentalist AL qaeda spokesperson Yahiye Gadahn
Yahiye's real name is Adam Pearlman, a nice Jewish boy and grandson of
Carl Pearlman, who was on the Board of Directors of the Anti-Defamation League.Not surprising at all.. since there are so many of similarity between Jew Judaism and Arab Sunniism.
And also between the Jewish Zealots and the Arab Fanatics..
Which is PRIDE, PRIDE, PRIDE, HATRED, HATRED, HATRED.Salam / Peace
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Meet Islamic fundamentalist AL qaeda spokesperson Yahiye Gadahn
http//i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/01/06/gadahn.tape/art.gadahn.afp.gi.jpg
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VXPMdYGlQ
Yahiye's real name is Adam Pearlman, a nice Jewish boy and grandson of
Carl Pearlman, who was on the Board of Directors of the Anti-Defamation League.Meet Joseph Cohen. Former Satmar Hasid. Conspiracy or typical self-hating Jew?
http//img246.imageshack.us/img246/2334/6a00e008c6b4e5883401156.jpg
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peace,
God is capable to do anything.
so are you saying that these radicals are free to misinterpret the Quean in order to use as a "license to Kill"?
My say is YES anyone is free to interpret anything, including the Quran.
But of course... every action has its own 'consequences'..The timing of the appearance of these radicals has one objective to invoke hate toward Quran and moslem.
This can only be the agenda of Saten.Satan "Yea right.. blame me.. look.... I have nothing to do with those 'hating business' anymore... I have retired long time ago... I felt useless after realizing that human doesn't need any of my assistance anymore on spreading this 'hating business' worldwide ... and worse.. they're now more hateful than me!!".
Salam / Peace
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Meet Joseph Cohen. Former Satmar Hasid. Conspiracy or typical self-hating Jew?
http//img246.imageshack.us/img246/2334/6a00e008c6b4e5883401156.jpg
And what does Mr Cohen have to do with individuals who happen to be Jewish posing as Islamic fundamentalists?
Or is this a case of anyone who accuses a jew or a group of Jews of anything negative must be a conspiracy nut or a Nazi or a crazy Muzzie or a self-hating Jew?
Meet three of the five dancing Israelis. Anti-semitic(TM) libel or plain ol' truth?
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You really think Adam Pearlman is just pretending to be an Islamist out of his evil Jewishness? Nevermind his recruitment by Jihadists, his assault on a liberal Imam. This kind of conspiracy mongering isn't going to make extremists go away. The Jews didn't create Islamic fundamentalism.
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Peace,
It is fascinating that some of the most extreme al-Qaeda supporting Muslims are Jewish converts.
However, that does not imply that these guys are just doing it to give Islam a bad name.
Really? Wow that proves it.
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You really think Adam Pearlman is just pretending to be an Islamist out of his evil Jewishness? Nevermind his recruitment by Jihadists, his assault on a liberal Imam. This kind of conspiracy mongering isn't going to make extremists go away. The Jews didn't create Islamic fundamentalism.
Jews certainly commit terrorist acts and frame Muslims. Tell me why did the two Jews arrested for attempting to blow up a mexican government building in 2001 have Pakistani passports on them?
Do you believe Jihadists are responsible for 911? If so, based on what evidence?
I believe Mossadists are responsible for 911, and I could provide you with my reasons for believing this if you like.
"The" Jews might have not created Islamic fundamentalism, but are certainly the pioneers of modern terrorism and masters of false-flag terrorism.
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This kind of conspiracy mongering isn't going to make extremists go away.
Ignoring Jewish terrorism and war mongering isn't going to make that go away either.
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to point out the fact that Jews get cought red-handed time and again trying to frame Muslims for terrorist acts?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up King David Hotel bombing?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up the Lavon Affair?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up the incident in Mexico in 2001?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to suggest that Jews can be terrorists? -
Ignoring Jewish terrorism and war mongering isn't going to make that go away either.
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to point out the fact that Jews get cought red-handed time and again trying to frame Muslims for terrorist acts?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up King David Hotel bombing?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up the Lavon Affair?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up the incident in Mexico in 2001?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to suggest that Jews can be terrorists?Of course it is. And if you don't believe that muslims are to be blamed for anything that comes to mind, you are being goodist and multiculturalist or whatever. By definition muslims are fanatics and fanatic muslims are guilty. Therefore anything that takes blame away from muslims is conspiracy theory.
You may have a few million dancing israelis under 10 million witnesses it will still be conspiracy theory.
That is the way it works, and that is why even if everybody is rady to believ that 9/11 was an inside job, that doesn't change a damned thing as far as clearing muslims of anything.
Truth is not necessarily plain reality.
Salaam
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Fine, forget 9/11, what about Mumbai, 7/7... Jews too?
I visit Christian blogs, Jewish blogs and Muslims blogs and you all have a manichean view of the world. If any one group was to be believed then all other groups possess near super-natural abilities to conspire to do evil. You really believe Bin Laden is a Zionist? You really think Mohammed Atta was a nice Muslim kid on holiday? You really think Zacarias Moussaoui is a Jewish kid from the Bronx working for Mossad? Ramzi Yousef was a Hindu CIA agent?
I'm sorry. Reality is not that subjective.
I'm not going to argue 9/11 theories, though. Truthers have much more stamina than I do. The replies for the 'Dancing Israelies' are out there if anyone wants to read them. 911myths.com, etc.
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to point out the fact that Jews get cought red-handed time and again trying to frame Muslims for terrorist acts?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up King David Hotel bombing?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up the Lavon Affair?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to bring up the incident in Mexico in 2001?
Is it "conspiracy mongering" to suggest that Jews can be terrorists?There have been (and are) Jewish terrorists, but they have been terrorists for Jewish causes. Their existence doesn't negate the threat of Islamists.
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Fine, forget 9/11, what about Mumbai, 7/7... Jews too?
So in your mind,if someone accuses a Jew or group of Jews of something evil, he must be accusing them of everything evil? They can either be responsible for all terrorism or none? They can't be responsible for some?
I visit Christian blogs, Jewish blogs and Muslims blogs and you all have a manichean view of the world. If any one group was to be believed then all other groups possess near super-natural abilities to conspire to do evil. .
How does my belief that Mossad is responsible for 9-11 translate as me believing that any group "possess near super-natural abilities to conspire to do evil. ."
You really believe Bin Laden is a Zionist?
I don't believe that Bin Laden is responsible for 9-11. But he and his video game pilots would have needed "near super-natural abilities" to fly two planes into two buildings and make three buildings fall controlled-demolition style.
You really think Mohammed Atta was a nice Muslim kid on holiday?
I claimed no such thing. But I do find it odd that he would forget his Quran at the titty bar the night before the attack, Cuz, you know them Muzzie fundamentalists like to read scriptures while getting lap dances. I also find it odd that he would all of a sudden forget how to speak German when he was in flight school
You really think Zacarias Moussaoui is a Jewish kid from the Bronx working for Mossad?
I claimed no such thing
Ramzi Yousef was a Hindu CIA agent?
I claimed no such thing
Do you really believe that Salvador Gerson Smeck and Sar Ben Zui were Muslims pretending to be Jews pretending to be Muslims trying to blow up a building?
http//www.pgr.gob.mx/cmsocial/bol01/oct/b69701.htmlreplies for the 'Dancing Israelies' are out there if anyone wants to read them. 911myths.com, etc.
911myths.com dances around the dancing Israeli issue.
Gotta love what one of the dancers said as he was being arrested
"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." ..These are not the droids you're looking for jedi
And why did their Israeli boss,Dominick Suter, flee the country and leave his customers hanging http//www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/press/storage.htmThere have been (and are) Jewish terrorists, but they have been terrorists for Jewish causes. Their existence doesn't negate the threat of Islamists.
Neither does the existance of Islamists negate the threat of Mossadists. And exactly whose cause did 911 serve?
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Peace BelH,
First my deep apologies for the confrontation on the other threads, but it takes two to tango, however I went too far, and it is fair in front of my Maker that I seek His and your forgiveness...
Now, just a remark if this is sickening to watch, why did you post it for us? ???
I do not think it is a good idea to post jihadist material here even if it might be fake one...
Anyway, Allah is the ultimate protector against evil...Salaam
Idriss 3rd
(soon to relocate as)