Swine or all rotten food?
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Why is it that the meat of swine is prohibited but not the meat of rats or even the innocent looking shrimp.
Using Project Root list, I took a look at the meanings of both Kha-Nun-Zay and Kha-Nun-Zay-Ra...
Kha-Nun-Zay = stinking / maggoty / altered in odour (e.g. flesh-meat, date, walnut), pride, self-magnification.
LL, V2, p 451, 452
Kha-Nun-Zay-Ra = swine/pig.
khinzir n.m. 2173, 53, 560, 6145, 16115
LL, V2, p 452 (it says see Kh-Zay-Ra 367, 36
Looking up the verses where Kha-Nun-Zay-Ra occurs (except 560), I found that the meaning of Kha-Nun-Zay can easily replace the 'swine/ pig' definition, which alters the prohibition to include all stinking/ maggoty foods.
BUT, there must be some difference between Kha-Nun-Zay and Kha-Nun-Zay-Ra.
Any views or help appreciated.
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The search function reveals this topic was discussed significantly, about 70 pages, e.g.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10385.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10514.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10610.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8584.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14318.0The basic conclusion was IF you ignore the form the word is in and Quranic grammar, then yes, you can interpret it the way you imply. Such a view would be baseless conjecture however.
According to qur'aanic grammar, in the phrases "lahma khinzeerin" or "lahma alkhinzeeri", "khinzeer" CANNOT be an adjective but can only be a noun. This has been discussed numerous times on this forum in the past. Please use the search feature for the relevant threads.
A short explanation is as follows
For "khinzeer" to be an adjective the phrase has to have "AL" before both words or if "AL" is not before both words then both words have to have the same ending of "an" or "un".
For example
"lahmun khinzeerun" or "al-lahma al-khinzeer".
The phrases in al-qur'aan are as follows
"lahma khinzeerin" (6145), and "lahma/lahmu alkhinzeeri" (2173, 53, 16115).
Thus "khinzeer" in those phrases CANNOT be an adjective, and can only mean "pig".
As a side note, please be careful on how you use PRL, e.g. see the guide on its homepage
Which root meaning is correct?
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/Qwrmic.htm -
I already used the search function but couldn't find much. Probably should have used different search terms.
Thanks for the info
As a side note, please be careful on how you use PRL, e.g. see the guide on its homepage
Which root meaning is correct?
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/Qwrmic.htmOf course, which is why I want to discuss the meanings with others
