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Taking off the Hijab

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    Alen
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    FAR, after all your long posts and arguments, you still have NOT provided us with the most important and indisputable evidence to support your case Qur'anic verse(s). Show us that we are blind, show us the Qur'anic verse(s) that we have failed to see the Qur'anic verses that ordain the women to cover their head and hair. Please do so. If you can provide such verse(s), I will be the first one to put a headscarf on and I will be advising other female Believers to do so. Until you do so, you cannot say that headscarf for women is Islamic. You are welcome to have your views that women should put headscarf on, but you have absolutely NO right calling Muslimahs who don't wear the headscarf, "fake Muslimahs". Bear in mind 4911.
    Tell me honestly, which will you find more attractive, a woman with beautiful long hair with a mask on, or a beautiful woman with a headscarf on?
    Are you saying I have to put a burqa on? What I was trying to say, is that the most important thing is to act modestly, and not use our ornaments to purposely attract the opposite sex. I can still wear modest clothes, but not act modestly to attract me.
    God knows what is concealed inside the hearts, and that is what's most important.
    Peace.

    Peace.
    Respectfully.

    I agree.
    I had a similar conversation with a sunni woman couple of years ago.....
    Amazing.

    Peace.

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      Alen
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      Quran 285, 37, 1590-1594
      As for women wanting to become nude and go against quran 2430... and becoming cheap for quran 2433.... let them please see the scientific evidences provided by some Italian scientists that go against their beliefs but agree with the quran.
      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9x5wY6hbX8
      Am I being to harsh?
      Maybe I need to find a forum where real muslimahs are at, because I have a question to ask them... and I don't know if the females here are suitable for that.

      Peace,
      Respectfully.

      females here have names and i can assure you that nowhere in the entire Quran are women told to cover their hair or head. Why? Becuse it's not the hair nor the head that attracts the opposite gender, it's how these are used. If a woman is fixing her hair and correcting her make up in front of a man, with the intention of attracting him, then she is clearly not lowering her gaze, is she?

      What if a woman who shows only her face, puts some more mascara? After all, i won't be able to see her hair but if i'm looking at her eyes being beautified ..... do you understand where i'm going with this?

      You're more then welcomed to stay on this forum as long as you wish and i got no harsh feelings towards you, but i do believe that you should re-read The Quran carefully. God bless you and may God guide you.

      Peace.

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        nsws1988
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        If you block people, the god will block you.

        Quran 5811, 801-10

        If you spoke to these girls like the respectful girls that they are then maybe I won't have to 'block' your arrogance and disrespect.

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          If you spoke to these girls like the respectful girls that they are then maybe I won't have to 'block' your arrogance and disrespect.

          Hey girli ;D she is not girl D

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            nsws1988
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            Hey girli ;D she is not girl D

            I was referring to the girls on this thread

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              Kukumber
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              Women, not girls ;D

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                nsws1988
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                Women, not girls ;D

                women and girls

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                  Kukumber
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                  reasonable compromise P

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    What's the difference between a young women and a girl?

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                      sarah2505
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                      none

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                        afridi220
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                        none

                        Realy -\nope

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                          liquiddharma
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                          What's the difference between a young women and a girl?

                          It can be offensive to talk about women as girls in a way that one wouldn't talk about men as boys. Something about being condescending.

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                            nsws1988
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                            It can be offensive to talk about women as girls in a way that one wouldn't talk about men as boys. Something about being condescending.

                            It can be offensive to refer to a girl as a woman too

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                              Kukumber
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                              Peace all.

                              Haha. I think the issue is mostly one of a double standard. Its ok to call a thirty year old woman a girl, but not a thirty year old man.

                              Also there is an issue in the media of women being referred to as mothers and grandmothers. Like a local small-town newspaper headline may say "67 year old grandmother obtains college degree" or "67 year old man obtains college degree", but never "67 year old grandfather".

                              It is basically defining that a woman's primary role is mothering/grandmothering, but not a man's. Another double standard. Does not bode over well where we live in a diverse world, where women and men should have the freedom to define their own roles.

                              Kukumber

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                                nsws1988
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                                Peace all.

                                Haha. I think the issue is mostly one of a double standard. Its ok to call a thirty year old woman a girl, but not a thirty year old man.

                                Why would you call a thirty year old man a girl? confused

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                                  Kukumber
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                                  Guess I should have been clearer, but I think you know what I meant. Its ok to call a thirty year old woman, a girl, but not a thirty year old man, a boy. Hence Double standard

                                  Peace.

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                                    FAR
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                                    If you spoke to these girls like the respectful girls that they are then maybe I won't have to 'block' your arrogance and disrespect.

                                    If they were muslimahs, then of course they wouldn't block me. Quran 801-8, 971

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                                      FAR
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                                      Women, not girls ;D

                                      Mashallah, well said.

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                                        FAR
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                                        What's the difference between a young women and a girl?

                                        Rights of property, marriage, etc etc... driving license... etc etc.

                                        A girl does not have rights to her property until she has been tried for the age.

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                                          FAR
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                                          Peace all.

                                          Haha. I think the issue is mostly one of a double standard. Its ok to call a thirty year old woman a girl, but not a thirty year old man.

                                          Also there is an issue in the media of women being referred to as mothers and grandmothers. Like a local small-town newspaper headline may say "67 year old grandmother obtains college degree" or "67 year old man obtains college degree", but never "67 year old grandfather".

                                          It is basically defining that a woman's primary role is mothering/grandmothering, but not a man's. Another double standard. Does not bode over well where we live in a diverse world, where women and men should have the freedom to define their own roles.

                                          Kukumber

                                          Yes you are absolutely correct. This naming doublespeak is almost like a back door into destroying women's rights, by calling them girls, and thus denying them the rights as if they were women.

                                          Women and men having freedom to define their roles is all good and well, only if it's about themselves defining themselves is what I can accept. Not about people messing with words.

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