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The Two Extremists!

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    Omeiza
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    The "MUSLIMS" overcover their women, their COLLEAGUES over uncover their women! Why?

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      SarahY
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      Because that's how society rolls, why do you ask to much questions?

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        MUNZIR_ALI
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        The "MUSLIMS" overcover their women, their COLLEAGUES over uncover their women! Why?

        Think once before you ask a question. You can answer it by yourself.

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          Omeiza
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          why do you ask to much questions
          To make references to them later. Questions help in thinking.

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            SarahY
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            Yes questions help in thinking but peoples answers can also impede thoughts.

            anyway your question doesn't serve great use, in the world and in all societies there are people of all kinds; extreme, medium, lenient etc. what gets publicised is what's upheld by social acceptance and power figures.

            Peace

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              Omeiza
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              There are people thinking deeply about the questions so never mind if you don't understand. You may be too busy.

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                huruf
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                No, I think it is a good question. No campaigns around to overundress males or overdress them. So it is a very legitimate question. Not easy to answer probably. Let me give a try as I reflect along

                Some males are not happy. Some people, males or females are not happy, but for this questions it is males that matter. So some males are not happy. They have other people, mostly males they report to or who have the succes they do not, or apparently have it. Have gorgeous wives or useful wives or lovers or apparently have them. Those other males have many or somethings they feel they should have in order to feel good and powerful and successful, just as those other males are. These unhappy males may not realise they feel like this. They may not be conscious of anything like that and might be shocked if you came up with something so weird. If they were probble there would be room for cleaning up. But without being coscious either if they can make somebody else do as they say, they will not feel so powerless or insignificant and therefore guilt for not "making it". Of course they cannot go into the street and tell anybody they fancy give all your bucks, or take off you pants, or sing an oper. But if they have a girl friend or a wife or a sister or a friend or a subordinate, or in default of that if they think about all the women of the world and can go into internet and order them anonimously not to be so dull and get prettier, or not to be such heaters and dress modestly, that orde somebody about and exert power... and the more you order them about the more powerful you are. Therefore if you have one at home you extract out of her as much power as you can, sometimes she dosen'?t collaborate and it is not much. But anonimously there are not limits to your power, therefore yuou keep them tied dressing and undressing. It is not the only thing one can do with women, but it is easy, uncomplicated, it always gts quorum, nobody seems to tire of it, ant it is uncomplicated short an simple and can be done at any time without long intellectual campaigns to put women in their place, that is the place that suits those males better, at their orders.

                Needless to say that those males will never be happy, but their unhappiness is thuis tamed and on top of it feeds the fashion industry, hijabi industry included.

                My two cents, Omeiza

                Salaam

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                  Jafar
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                  The "MUSLIMS" overcover their women, their COLLEAGUES over uncover their women! Why?

                  We're all born 'uncovered'..
                  If God thinks that we should be better 'covered'.. why not cover us since birth?

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                    Rev_John
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                    We're all born 'uncovered'..
                    If God thinks that we should be better 'covered'.. why not cover us since birth?

                    In hair or fur?

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                      SarahY
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                      We're all born 'uncovered'..
                      If God thinks that we should be better 'covered'.. why not cover us since birth?

                      with that comment one may think you're against any form of clothing. with this logic we can say what's the point of living or what's the point in anything. God wants US to do, not just be mindless animals.

                      if you haven't noticed there are some guidelines in Quran about dress code.

                      peace.

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                        AlFajr
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                        We're all born 'uncovered'..
                        If God thinks that we should be better 'covered'.. why not cover us since birth?

                        In that case you should not shave or cut your nails. I mean, only if your 100% serious about going with the "natural" look.

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                          Jafar
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                          In hair or fur?

                          Didn't EVE and Adam was both totally naked (read not covered with anything unless perhaps hair and/or fur) in the beginning?

                          "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression." Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before) he said "Your Lord only forbade you this tree, lest ye should become angels or such beings as live for ever." And he swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought about their fall when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?"
                          (719-23)

                          Thus the first 'covering' made by Adam (and his family) were actually made of leaves...
                          And today, there are still a group of people who haven't evolved much, in terms of 'fashion', since that time...

                          http//farm1.static.flickr.com/139/347572945_dfb334013a.jpg

                          why would our super great ancestor feel ashamed of their 'stuff' anyway?
                          Hmm... for our super great grandpa there might be a reason...
                          Perhaps Satan show him his 'stuff'.. size does matter isn't it.. ?

                          Salam / Peace

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                            Edip_Yuksel
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                            We're all born 'uncovered'.. If God thinks that we should be better 'covered'.. why not cover us since birth

                            Dear Jafar

                            Let's apply your logic as a template and see whether it works

                            We're all born pissing on ourselves.. If God thinks that we should be better not to piss on ourselves.. why not create us with diapers or toiet seats?

                            We're all born illiterate.. If God thinks that we should be better literate.. why not educate us since birth?

                            We're all born as crying babies.. If God thinks that we should be better be mature adults.. why not make us adults since birth?

                            Peace,
                            Edihp

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                              Jafar
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                              with that comment one may think you're against any form of clothing. with this logic we can say what's the point of living or what's the point in anything. God wants US to do, not just be mindless animals.

                              if you haven't noticed there are some guidelines in Quran about dress code.

                              peace.

                              So our super great grandma, EVE is immoral? Because she's not 'fashionista' enough according to her super great grand children standard and taste?
                              And this chick below who perhaps very close to her super great grandma in terms of 'fashion style' is also immoral? doomed to hell???

                              http//www.gutenberg.org/files/2564/2564-h/images/p30.jpg

                              Salam / Peace

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                                Jafar
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                                Dear Jafar

                                Let's apply your logic as a template and see whether it works

                                We're all born pissing on ourselves.. If God thinks that we should be better not to piss on ourselves.. why not create us with diapers or toiet seats?

                                We're all born illiterate.. If God thinks that we should be better literate.. why not educate us since birth?

                                We're all born as crying babies.. If God thinks that we should be better be mature adults.. why not make us adults since birth?

                                Peace,
                                Edihp

                                Bro Edip, I think you're smart enough to realize that you've gone out of context..
                                The context of this discussion is "Fashion"..

                                Salam / Peace

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                                  san
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                                  So our super great grandma, EVE is immoral? Because she's not 'fashionista' enough according to her super great grand children standard and taste?
                                  And this chick below who perhaps very close to her super great grandma in terms of 'fashion style' is also immoral? doomed to hell???

                                  fashion?

                                  it's considered tasteful in some people's fashion to show a nip or two. so, whose fashion?

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                                    Jafar
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                                    fashion?

                                    it's considered tasteful in some people's fashion to show a nip or two. so, whose fashion?

                                    And some other people regard that as 'disgraceful'...
                                    While some other people shows the whole tits..

                                    I found many similarities between The Muslims, especially Saudi Arabian Muslims and those 'fashionista' in Paris (don't spell out the S and spell R with 'gargling' sounds Pacchhrreee).
                                    They judge other people based on their fashion preferences....

                                    The only difference is

                                    If they met or see people who dress like this..
                                    http//farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2559849453_0318f90ef4.jpg

                                    They would say
                                    Fashionista Oooh darling you're sooo centuries agoo...
                                    Muslims Get away from me you satan!!

                                    Salam / Peace

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                                      san
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                                      They judge other people based on their fashion preferences....

                                      thaaat's it.

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                                        SarahY
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                                        Jafar, salam/peace to you too

                                        So our super great grandma, EVE is immoral? Because she's not 'fashionista' enough according to her super great grand children standard and taste?
                                        And this chick below who perhaps very close to her super great grandma in terms of 'fashion style' is also immoral? doomed to hell???

                                        Did I say or even allude EVE is immoral? Seriously this topic has nothing to do with fashion. People in tribal places use what they could as forms of clothing. What in their society is classed as normal. People with wealth would have more practical means of buying cotton material etc. it?s not about fashion is about practicality.

                                        BTW just because something is cultural acceptable it doesn't mean it is right, but i dunno what criterion you use to distinguish right/wrong good/bad lawful/unlawful.

                                        I find it offensive that you posts images of women bearing their breasts.

                                        Read some Quran if you follow it, if you dont understand it maybe try finding a translation that suits your mind
                                        726
                                        (726)

                                        2431

                                        (2431)

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                                          AlFajr
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                                          I find it offensive that you posts images of women bearing their breasts.

                                          I agree, I guess the women in the pictures are not "hot" enough to warrant an infraction.

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