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I didn't imply anything ... I used "if" . and one more thing fatwa is with rules and no one dares to give one without a very deep studies because the maker of fatwa between him and hell nothing, so he must be careful .
IF he wants to be a good Muslim, implies that IF he doesnt do as you say then he is NOT a good Muslim.
So your opinion is your opinion based on.......whatever...... but anyone else gives an opinion based on studying and thinking you call that a fatwa?
ok I got it now.
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There is no reason whatsoever for female circumcision. And I don't need to google it, thank you very much. I've done extensive research on the subject since I happen to live in a country where countless girls and women are subjected to this on a daily basis.
My country didn't circumise girls, but where you live "Egype" is for a reason (heat and lot of girls as they said ), so this subject is closed, do whatever you want .
Wrong. It is not only "not an obligation", it is haram. Doing this to someone is doing irreversible harm to God's creation, it is a serious sin and crime. That's what those scholars, who claim it is allowed or recommended, are committing.
I've seen that you're angry about those scholars , can you give their names to see their validity ?
Please stop belittling me. I have not said anywhere that I don't know what scholars say and how they justify their views. That is a mere assumption on which you base another attack.
I never reject anything before studying it thoroughly, I thought that should have been obvious since I stated it several times. So I am in no need of your advice. If you had read my posts properly instead of just scanning them for things to pick on, you would have known that.
If I disagree with something in a scholarly text or a fatwa, I have clear reasons to do so based on examining it using my brain, heart, common sense, and life experience. Which is exactly what the Qur'an tells us to do.first of all I reply all your post , I didn't pick on.
second of all maybe you use your mind and your heart but common sense I don't think so. and I'm wondering what do you meann by life experience ? -
when did God make you a messenger?
hahahahaha. well I think you have a lot of problems one of them is your lack of understanding .
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There are no silly questions, only silly answers, mostly coming from you
yeah get real Miss.tattoo
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IF he wants to be a good Muslim, implies that IF he doesnt do as you say then he is NOT a good Muslim.
So your opinion is your opinion based on.......whatever...... but anyone else gives an opinion based on studying and thinking you call that a fatwa?
ok I got it now.You got nothing >>>>>>>> keep barking the wrong tree.
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My country didn't circumise girls, but where you live "Egype" is for a reason (heat and lot of girls as they said ), so this subject is closed, do whatever you want .
Dear Lord, are you for real?!?
So according to you, "heat and a lot of girls" is a "reason" to mutilate girls and physically as well as emotionally scar them for life? What in the world makes you think that women living in warm countries should have their private parts cut off? This is plain lunacy and clearly against science and religion.
What the number of girls living in a country has to do with the need to circumcise them is beyond my imagination. But by now I am not shocked anymore by the ridiculous and utterly bizarre arguments people will bring on in order to defend this barbaric practice.
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I've seen that you're angry about those scholars , can you give their names to see their validity ?
No. If you want to debate particular scholars, I suggest you open a thread in the appropriate section.
and your heart but common sense I don't think so. and I'm wondering what do you meann by life experience ?
Very simple. We don't live in a cocoon, each one of us makes experiences, learns, interacts with people, observes things and so on. We grow in knowledge and spirituality over the years. So we need to take those observations into regard when evaluating something -- be it a fatwa or anything else. If I see or read someone saying something that I can clearly prove wrong by my own observations, then it is not only justified but my duty to not follow this person or their advice. Religion does not exist in a vacuum detached from the real world.
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Dear Lord, are you for real?!?
Look, you know nothing about this thing, so as I said before I've closed the subject, I think there are guys here are interseted in my answers. about what you have pointed out that you have study this issue, sorry to say that you maybe pretend that you did study this thing, because the first lesson that you will get that heat influence directly in the sexual desires of a person(female or male), for example guys in Saoudi Arabia are getting mature in 14 and 15 sometimes less, guys in Morocco are getting mature in 17 18 20 sometimes 15.
No. If you want to debate particular scholars, I suggest you open a thread in the appropriate section.
No, you'll waste my time .
Very simple. We don't live in a cocoon, each one of us makes experiences, learns, interacts with people, observes things and so on. We grow in knowledge and spirituality over the years. So we need to take those observations into regard when evaluating something -- be it a fatwa or anything else. If I see or read someone saying something that I can clearly prove wrong by my own observations, then it is not only justified but my duty to not follow this person or their advice. Religion does not exist in a vacuum detached from the real world.
ok, Good luck .
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really? I think people that understand English will see exactly what you have said.
yeah ignore
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rotfl rotfl oh yeah, Morocco rotfl
what about Morocco this time ? .
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Look, you know nothing about this thing, so as I said before I've closed the subject
It is obvious that it is you who is extremely ignorant about the subject. Otherwise you wouldn't have spoken about "necessity" and brought up "justifications" which are an insult to any human being with a brain to think.
And it is not up to you to close a subject.
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I think there are guys here are interseted in my answers.
Oh we are all interested in your answers hail
about what you have pointed out that you have study this issue, sorry to say that you maybe pretend that you did study this thing, because the first lesson that you will get that heat influence directly in the sexual desires of a person(female or male), for example guys in Saoudi Arabia are getting mature in 14 and 15 sometimes less, guys in Morocco are getting mature in 17 18 20 sometimes 15.
Who do you think you are to say someone 'pretends' to study something? If heat influences sexual desire then every man in Egypt should be castrated. Circumcision for a man does nothing to eliminate his sexual desire, it takes it all away for a women, so why talk of heat and circumcision relating only to women? that doesnt make any sense.
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It is obvious that it is you who is extremely ignorant about the subject. Otherwise you wouldn't have spoken about "necessity" and brought up "justifications" which are an insult to any human being with a brain to think.
And it is not up to you to close a subject.
I can't understand you ladies for arguing when brother Thereformer1 is right about this. Now tell me truthfully what kind of a person has surah fatiha written on his backestaghfirullah! ?? dear sisters use your brians it won't harm you inshaAllah!
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More than the breastfeeding fatwa?! rotfl
and now you have problem with breastfeeding as well? if you cannot understand something doesn't mean thats wrong!! and also you don't have knowledge of hadith. little knowledge is dangerous!
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I can't understand you ladies for arguing when brother Thereformer1 is right about this. Now tell me truthfully what kind of a person has surah fatiha written on his backestaghfirullah! ?? dear sisters use your brians it won't harm you inshaAllah!
The kind of person who wants to show the world he loves Allah and doesnt give a damn about what anyone else thinks muscle
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The kind of person who wants to show the world he loves Allah and doesnt give a damn about what anyone else thinks muscle
this is very disrespectful to both Allah and Quran!! it is haraam to take quran in the toilet!! don't insult quran please.
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and now you have problem with breastfeeding as well? if you cannot understand something doesn't mean thats wrong!! and also you don't have knowledge of hadith. little knowledge is dangerous!
the hadith and fatwa about breastfeeding says that a man and woman cannot work together unless the woman breasfeeds him, a grown man. thats SICK
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I can't understand you ladies for arguing when brother Thereformer1 is right about this. Now tell me truthfully what kind of a person has surah fatiha written on his backestaghfirullah!
Hi Rasul,
you are mixing things up and quoting me out of context.
The part of my post that you quoted is referring to female genital mutilation -- FGM. Reformer said there are justifications and reasons for it.
Are you agreeing with him that this is right? Or how am I to understand your statement above? Or were you intending to say you agree with him in his views about tattoos? Could you please clarify?
The advice about using brains is condescending, insulting and unnecessary.
Wasn't it you who previously said we should follow the majority? Following the majority and using your brain often do not go hand in hand, unfortunately.