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    The theist, the atheist and the deist.

    Deism and atheism are both critical evaluations of Christianity, whereas theism is simply belonging to a religion. Principally deist believe in the same things as Submitters do, but regard the Quran as man made, and similarly the Bible. Deism may have been influential during the beginning of America, and allow religious freedom principally. So Rashad in some sense is correct in that he thinks America is built on religious freedom. Whereas deists think all religions are wrong, and do not believe in the structure of religion, one may have to answer the question of whether Islam is compatible with deism. In objectivity both are the same, but where Islam has proof that God has revealed the message of the Quran as well as previous scriptures, the deist on the other hand see it coming from men. Whereas their answer lay in scientific discovery of the future which would prove the existence of God, ours on the other hand led to the deciphering of the mathematical miracle of the Quran which proved it was the word of God. People will try and say what about the failures, and the probabilities, we on the other say within the parameters of existence we can deduce such and such, deist would probably hold the same opinion as those who say let us know the failures. Well the only response is has sun ever be known to rise from the West or has it ever strayed off its course, or the moon for that matter or the earth and every living creature ever strayed off the design that was embedded into their mind, body and souls.

    After realising that Submission is the only religion acceptable on to God, which is taught in the Quran. I think science was defeated by the great undeniable physical proof of the Quran being the word of God, miracles are still being presented, the word Allah in arabic has been known to appear among his creation, I witnessed vegetables bearing his name when I was younger and my uncle ran a grocery store. But like any miracle there will be those who contest it, in the Biblical account of the signs sent to Pharoah, everytime a new sign comes, there are magicians quick at work to prove they can do similar. So when the Quran's mathematical structure appeared first they tried to belittle it by saying it appeared in the Bill of Rights too, trying to defuse the amazing discovery.

    "God has counted the number of all things." (722 7+2+2+8=19, a mathematical proof

    We have now been given scientific proof of the existence of God. It concerns the 3 attributes of God, the Omniscient, the Omnipotent and the Omnipresent, the Knower, the Most Powerful and the Most Wise.

    Knowledge of the future Knowledge of science the scientist faith in light

    Power of the now Power of Art the artist belief in good

    Wisdom of the past Wisdom of Classic the classicist devotion to truth

    Which link with mind, body and soul. liquid solid gas, water food and air.

    prophecies of the mind
    miracles of the body
    wisdom of the soul

    chemisty music philosophy what you know
    physic art linguistic what you observe
    biology writing history what you learn

    And then finally there is also the Satanist, who look to Pharoah and Egypt, and build their pyramids, in which people sell their souls, like a ghost pyramid, or a pyramid of souls. Then there is also the realist, fundamentalist, the humanist, the pragmatist, the Islamist, the Zionist, the Monarchist, but for this discussion we will look only at theist, atheist and deist.

    A question I have to ask the likes of Benjamin Franklin and other of America's deist history, is to say if we have proof of Divine authorship of the Quran would you believe, or become heedless.

    It is no point being deist and looking to the terrorist as the bad guys, how could you be so insane, argument. Or looking only upon the question of good an evil, when there is also a test between light and darkness and a competition between right and wrong.

    The question we try and answer is one of philosophy, which is 'could God create a rock He could not carry?'

    We find that first we respond, what is it about the rock.

    It's size, it 's weight or it's pressure

    We find size is fluid, weight is solid and pressure is gaseous.

    This then becomes the formula, size is limitless (not infinite). weight is infinite, and pressure is free

    Just by hearing we know, and hearing is also limitless, but links to the chaos of the mind
    Whereas by seeing we believe, and sight is infinite, and links to the causality of the body
    and finally by saying we learn, and speech is free, and links with the will of the soul

    The angels know the difference between light from darkness
    The demons see the difference between good against evil
    The humans learn the difference between right and wrong

    The hypocrisy of elder
    the lies of youth
    the ignorance of a child

    Radio
    Television
    Internet

    Hear no
    See no
    Speak no

    peace

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      The theist, the atheist and the deist.

      Deism and atheism are both critical evaluations of Christianity, whereas theism is simply belonging to a religion. Principally deist believe in the same things as Submitters do, but regard the Quran as man made, and similarly the Bible. Deism may have been influential during the beginning of America, and allow religious freedom principally. So Rashad in some sense is correct in that he thinks America is built on religious freedom. Whereas deists think all religions are wrong, and do not believe in the structure of religion, one may have to answer the question of whether Islam is compatible with deism. In objectivity both are the same, but where Islam has proof that God has revealed the message of the Quran as well as previous scriptures, the deist on the other hand see it coming from men. Whereas their answer lay in scientific discovery of the future which would prove the existence of God, ours on the other hand led to the deciphering of the mathematical miracle of the Quran which proved it was the word of God. People will try and say what about the failures, and the probabilities, we on the other say within the parameters of existence we can deduce such and such, deist would probably hold the same opinion as those who say let us know the failures. Well the only response is has sun ever be known to rise from the West or has it ever strayed off its course, or the moon for that matter or the earth and every living creature ever strayed off the design that was embedded into their mind, body and souls.

      After realising that Submission is the only religion acceptable on to God, which is taught in the Quran. I think science was defeated by the great undeniable physical proof of the Quran being the word of God, miracles are still being presented, the word Allah in arabic has been known to appear among his creation, I witnessed vegetables bearing his name when I was younger and my uncle ran a grocery store. But like any miracle there will be those who contest it, in the Biblical account of the signs sent to Pharoah, everytime a new sign comes, there are magicians quick at work to prove they can do similar. So when the Quran's mathematical structure appeared first they tried to belittle it by saying it appeared in the Bill of Rights too, trying to defuse the amazing discovery.

      "God has counted the number of all things." (722 7+2+2+8=19, a mathematical proof

      ....

      Well in regards to deists and atheists, we can refer to the following research provided by the American Atheist organization. http//www.atheists.org/The_Enlightenment,_Freemasonry,_and_The_Illuminati

      Once you've done that, you can eliminate philosophy from your thingy.
      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIMifWU5ucU
      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ghazali#Ghazali.27s_influence
      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_skepticism

      Why? Because islam and the muslims brought about scientific methods, not idol thoughts.
      http//www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird/wclose.html - It was skeptics and philosophers, atheists but mostly ardent deists that attacked knowledge.
      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method#Introduction_to_scientific_method
      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_science

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        Well in regards to deists and atheists, we can refer to the following research provided by the American Atheist organization. http//www.atheists.org/The_Enlightenment,_Freemasonry,_and_The_Illuminati

        Once you've done that, you can eliminate philosophy from your thingy.
        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIMifWU5ucU
        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ghazali#Ghazali.27s_influence
        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_skepticism

        Why? Because islam and the muslims brought about scientific methods, not idol thoughts.
        http//www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird/wclose.html - It was skeptics and philosophers, atheists but mostly ardent deists that attacked knowledge.
        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method#Introduction_to_scientific_method
        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_science

        salaam far,

        will check them out, some more insight below, I don't want to keep creating new threads, with every new thought, so I will inshallah just use one thread.

        ma salaam


        The moral of the story in the music I produced is it can happen twice, but three times you got to be kidding, if three time then there has got to be a fourth and maybe even a fifth. For example, my eldest was a cross country captain, my second eldest brother was afirst team rugby player, 5 years and a sister separate me from my older brothers, does that mean I will be fast and hard, maybe I will start off quick and hard, but then growth pains, and various physical changes would mean I could not compete other than as a child.
        The elder passed the test on the size of everything
        The youth answered the question on the weight of nothing
        The child won the competition on the pressure of eternal

        So now there has been 2 World Wars, Britain and its allies have won both, what will happen the third time, will Britain change its colors or will it remain wrong sided, no one's talking about what it is about the British, where they sit on the fence, all they try and do is remain illusive and aloof to all the distinctions and understandings,

        They won the dark war
        They won the evil war
        They won the wrong war

        They don't want to answer any of the questions, they are too busy finding ways and means to seduce towards evil.

        You can enlighten the chaos
        You can question the cause
        You can will to win

        Teacher
        Doctor
        Professor

        elder controls the mind of the child
        youth rules the body of the elder
        child owns the soul of the youth

        Speed
        Accuracy
        Precision

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