Physics proving the god
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Salaam Rajah and Far,
my opinion of Richard Dawkins is very low, I believe he is at best an arrogant stupid man who's religion is the secular state, and at worst a cleaver man who is callous, deceptive and without conscience.
I do not think any God exists, so having a nodule connected to an imaginary entity is unlikely, I have explained my perspective on Iblis and the human mind in two essays.
Iblis
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/51/81/The Human Soul Nexus
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Does anyone know the GOD equation?
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Peace,
The "aether theory of physics" does not have much of a leg to stand on. Like most off-key "science" the theory uses a level of mathematics far too simple to describe the environment and it does invent many strange new constants, current understanding has long passed the level displayed therein.
The "predictions" that it makes are already out of line with what is seen in reality. Reading the discussions makes it apparent that this person does not really have much of a leg to stand on. I see what they are trying to do which is basically try and construct a physics theory out of some kind of spiritual insight.
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Salaam OPF,
so using your profound knowledge of conventional physics, explain where charge comes from, explain the endless energy of a magnet, explain why gravity is none existent less than 200 miles off the earth yet is presented as the dominant force, a force billions and billions of times weaker than the magnetic force. Explain where the matter of the universe originated, if you want to propagate conventional physics as true, use it to explain the universe as presented through the physical evidence, the big bang theory has been extensively disproved repeatedly, it in fact has no leg to stand on, and to prop up the lie of the big bang, they have invented strange new ideas, like black holes, and dark matter, in an endless attempt to convince people like you, that it is a limited contained physical universe.
The have used laws designed to explain steam engine construction, as profound laws of nature, called the laws of thermodynamics, such as energy can not be created nor destroyed, when it is absolutely impossible to create a closed energy system anywhere within the universe, absolutely anywhere, it is the direct opposite, we exist within an open exchange, if this was understood widely people would begin to wonder why we have to pay for energy, and why we are using technology invented a century and a half ago, without much improvement.
In your case they have done a sterling job in subjugation, you have never questioned or investigated the truth of conventionally propagated physics, just accept it on blind faith.
If you want to understand physics you have to go back to James Maxwell, he understood you can not use abstract mathematics to describe reality, he used quaternion mathematics as this takes account for the order, as in the physical universe two principles prevent abstract mathematics from being of use, the first is everything is 'A' symmetrical and secondly 2+3=5 is not the same as 3+2=5, as the order matters, as the numbers represent something physical, not abstract.
You can continue to follow the conventional physics funded by the elite, to hold you in ignorance if you wish, but you should reflect on propagating bullshit as fact, as you did above, this being a crime within Islam.
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Tell me good sir,
Do you believe in perpetual motion of any kind? A magnet does not have "endless energy". Acceleration due to gravity 200 miles off the Earth is barely even reduced by 10%. Where is it presented as the "dominant force"? The overwhelming majority of celestial bodies have a relatively neutral charge distribution so gravity takes precedence despite electromagnetism being stronger.
In your case they have done a sterling job in subjugation, you have never questioned or investigated the truth of conventionally propagated physics, just accept it on blind faith.
Don't be so sure about that.
One thing can be said as to how well conventional physics is working; there are a lot of effects in physics that arise emergently from things that happen on a smaller scale and many such fields are being linked together very well to produce technology of great complexity. A hallmark of any good theory is that it makes useful predictions about the environment. What's more, there is no dogma involved; it's openly testable. If you disagree, demonstrate a simple counter-example.
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Salaam OPF,
every atom in this physical existence demonstrates perpetual motion, everything is moving, only the confusion of the media propagated model would present the opposite, and have people believe it to be true.
A magnet does produce endless energy from nothing, all dynamo utilise this property, the Zionists use energy to spin the magnets past each other, but this is a primitive method of utilising magnetic fields to convert the time field into the electrical field.
There are many laughable examples of conventional physics that have no proof, and plenty of evidence against them, as an example take the Sun, or any star, they say that they are nuclear furnaces, but the surface is only around 6000c while the atmosphere outside the star is around 2000000c, they can not explain the physical evidence, yet continue to propagate the lie.
They say the Moon causes the tides, yet no electro-gravitational effect even of the earth with a mass more than three times that of the Moon extends much beyond 200 miles from the Earth, the moon is 250000 miles from the Earth, so without doubt it is not electro-gravitation that effects the tides, the Earth is a giant crystal, as 99.9% of all solid matter is crystalline, it is far more likely that the facets of the growing crystal pulse with the circulation of the molten Earth.
As we exist within an open energy exchange, energy is constantly being added to the mass of the Earth, as happens with every planetary body with internal movement, the universe is a living consciousness, as everything originates from pure nothingness. You should read my explanations of physics, they match the physical evidence without the need to create the emperors new suit every time the evidence fails to match the dogma, as with black holes and dark matter.
But I doubt anything I could write or say would alter your opinions, so I?ll leave you with that.
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Personally, I don't need any scientific proof.
There is a source to life... to creation. That is God.Even death is under its jurisdiction, as a part of the life cycle...
we see this with plants bearing seed and, finally, withering and passing into dust,
becoming the soil in which the seed is planted.A child can reason this and see how everything is related.. in sync, somehow.
However they chalk it up with math is completely based on a previously agreed system,
using an accepted starting point. The possibilities are endless.To base the concept of "intelligence" on human intelligence ...doesn't really strike me
as all that intelligent. We do some of the stupidest, most vile things of any creature on the planet
and much of it goes on in the lab.They'd better hope there is a God.
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Peace,
The "aether theory of physics" does not have much of a leg to stand on. Like most off-key "science" the theory uses a level of mathematics far too simple to describe the environment and it does invent many strange new constants, current understanding has long passed the level displayed therein.
The "predictions" that it makes are already out of line with what is seen in reality. Reading the discussions makes it apparent that this person does not really have much of a leg to stand on. I see what they are trying to do which is basically try and construct a physics theory out of some kind of spiritual insight.
Please do be more specific, what exactly are you trying to say? That you believe what is taught in schools?
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Tell me good sir,
Do you believe in perpetual motion of any kind? A magnet does not have "endless energy". Acceleration due to gravity 200 miles off the Earth is barely even reduced by 10%. Where is it presented as the "dominant force"? The overwhelming majority of celestial bodies have a relatively neutral charge distribution so gravity takes precedence despite electromagnetism being stronger.
Don't be so sure about that.
One thing can be said as to how well conventional physics is working; there are a lot of effects in physics that arise emergently from things that happen on a smaller scale and many such fields are being linked together very well to produce technology of great complexity. A hallmark of any good theory is that it makes useful predictions about the environment. What's more, there is no dogma involved; it's openly testable. If you disagree, demonstrate a simple counter-example.
A hallmark of a good model... not theory... is that it predicts accurately. Let's stick to the mathematics first. Once we pass the maths, then we can talk about making hypothesises.
As for belief in a perpetual motion... allah. Do I need to say anything more than quran 1122?
http//everythingforever.com/st_math.htm
And thus quran 1124
As for gravity... are you ignoring the speed of stars several 100s of light years away from the galactic core that spin at such speeds which is unimaginable under the models you speak of?
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Salaam OPF,
every atom in this physical existence demonstrates perpetual motion, everything is moving, only the confusion of the media propagated model would present the opposite, and have people believe it to be true.
Peace;
Yes, they demonstrate "perpetual motion". However the "perpetual motion" of an atom is very different, it is merely vibrating at a defined energy level and no work is done; indeed if they were in perpetual motion the electron would spin into the nucleus. Real perpetual motion can be defined as converting one form of energy completely to another form. Or another way to produce perpetual motion is to pull some energy out of your ass to compensate for the inefficiency of the process. Consider 2273, this verse has proven to be true via energy conservation and mass-energy equivalence.
A magnet does produce endless energy from nothing, all dynamo utilise this property, the Zionists use energy to spin the magnets past each other, but this is a primitive method of utilising magnetic fields to convert the time field into the electrical field.
You fail to understand the difference between "work" and "potential". A magnet always has a potential surrounding it and work is done when something interacts with this potential; the existence of a potential does not imply any work is being carried out and this is the same as on the atomic scale. I should have known, that when I spent half my childhood fiddling about with electric motors and magnets that it wasn't me playing around, the Zionists did it &!
There are many laughable examples of conventional physics that have no proof, and plenty of evidence against them, as an example take the Sun, or any star, they say that they are nuclear furnaces, but the surface is only around 6000c while the atmosphere outside the star is around 2000000c, they can not explain the physical evidence, yet continue to propagate the lie.
The physical evidence is already very well explained and quite easy to understand if you paid attention in school. Indeed a brief look at the wiki page shows that "they" can indeed explain the physical evidence. The temperature around the star is not "2000000c", it may have small regions of temporary high temperature but they are there for a reason.
They say the Moon causes the tides, yet no electro-gravitational effect even of the earth with a mass more than three times that of the Moon extends much beyond 200 miles from the Earth, the moon is 250000 miles from the Earth, so without doubt it is not electro-gravitation that effects the tides, the Earth is a giant crystal, as 99.9% of all solid matter is crystalline, it is far more likely that the facets of the growing crystal pulse with the circulation of the molten Earth.
The mind boggles.
As we exist within an open energy exchange, energy is constantly being added to the mass of the Earth, as happens with every planetary body with internal movement, the universe is a living consciousness, as everything originates from pure nothingness. You should read my explanations of physics, they match the physical evidence without the need to create the emperors new suit every time the evidence fails to match the dogma, as with black holes and dark matter.
But I doubt anything I could write or say would alter your opinions, so Ill leave you with that.
Energy is constantly being added and taken away from the mass of the earth and I do believe the universe is a living consciousness of sorts (consider that we are a speck relative to the earth even and are "conscious", it isn't very hard to believe that the universe surely has a greater degree of consciousness than us).
Actually I read quite a lot of your site long before this thread existed. It was very interesting spiritually speaking and we share many ideas but your understanding of physics really is not at a level enough to make such incredible claims. This is not like the world of quranists vs hadeethists where you are told to go study mounds of conjecture and opinion, physics is entirely different and all the pieces of the puzzle fit together strikingly well and indeed it provides some evidence for quranic claims.
As for the percieved dogma, you clearly have no idea how things work. It is very simple, physics is an endless (?) series of approximations, each new working theory is a better approximation to the truth than the last. You can see it in measurement precisions, years ago we didn't really have the ability to carve below the 0.5mm (10^-3m) scale and nowadays we are operating on the nanometer (10^-9) scale AS STANDARD (the computer you are using perhaps uses chips with transistors on the 40-60nm scale) and the forefront goes far below. Do you think this "Aether physics" model is going to let us probe any further? I sincerely doubt it.
Again what people must remember is that this is not religious dogma where a single contradiction/inconsistency disproves the entire school of thought. This is human work and it is perpetually subject to change (IN THE DIRECTION OF MORE MATHEMATICAL PRECISION, before you get your knickers in a twist) and it is far more open about this than any religious doctrine. There is no "Grand Zionist Conspiracy" in science except in military funding to make better weapons to blow each other up. Which of course provides boundary conditions for other physics theories and pushes them forward. You can fund all the scientists you want to try to prove a flat Earth but a better usage of the money would be to buy some cigarettes, a "flat Earth science conspiracy" would get nowhere either.
There is also a very striking property of correct physics models. That is that when you consider them and play with them, as long as they make correct predictions about the environment they are actually blindingly obvious and you wonder how it could possibly be any other way.
Also conventional physics does an astoundingly good job at proving THE god, far more so than any psuedoscience. In the quran the universe is said to be in a balance of sorts and it is said that God keeps the number of all things. Indeed, all of this has been demonstrated to be truthful by the establishment. The earth is the most profound example of this, the time of its origination relative to the age of the universe, the distance from sun to earth, various factors, also in the global scale of cosmology/the smallest scale of atomic physics, all these dimensionless parameters for the universe.
Peace out.
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Salaam OPF,
I would say pseudo-science would be conventional physics, you say
?The physical evidence is already very well explained and quite easy to understand if you paid attention in school. Indeed a brief look at the wiki page shows that "they" can indeed explain the physical evidence. The temperature around the star is not "2000000c", it may have small regions of temporary high temperature but they are there for a reason.?
Wikipedia
The corona is the extended outer atmosphere of the Sun, which is much larger in volume than the Sun itself. The corona continuously expands into the space forming the solar wind, which fills all the Solar System. The low corona, which is very near the surface of the Sun, has a particle density around 1015?1016 m3. The average temperature of the corona and solar wind is about 1 million?2 million kelvins, however, in the hottest regions it is 8 million?20 million kelvins. WHILE NO COMPLETE THEORY YET EXISTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE TEMPERATURE OF THE CORONA, at least some of its heat is known to be from magnetic reconnection.The difference between work and potential, as you believe
Potential energy is energy stored within a physical system as a result of the position or configuration of the different parts of that system. It has the potential to be converted into other forms of energy, such as kinetic energy, AND TO DO WORK in the process.
You seem to think the movement of energy within every atom is not perpetual motion?
Perpetual motion would be the property of a device or system which perpetually (indefinitely) produces more energy than it consumes, resulting in a net output of energy for indefinite time.
Every atom demonstrates this motion.
The establishment wish to confuse you, you seem to wish to be confused.
We exist in a manifest universe, the underlying manifold has been proved experimentally to exist, and that energy is simply thought, the universe is built upon differential fractal structures, forming a holographic matrix, the establishment do not want you to grasp the true nature of this reality, they use Zionists like Albert Einstein to confuse the minds of the population, as I said previously nothing I could write would alter anything you hold true. -
I agree entirely with what you say at the end, the universe is indeed made of "thought", a sort of "if this, then that, but not that" sort of logic which branches off into intricate complexity and it is indeed like a fractal. However there is no "Zionist conspiracy" that can change anything which you do not seem to understand, irrespective of whether it exists. What then do you think is the aim of such a "Zionist conspiracy"?
Atoms do not "output energy". If you consider the case of a hydrogen atom, you can describe its energy states independent of time through the time independent Schrodinger equation and this will spit out the possible energy states that its electrons can occupy. Why did I mention this? Time and energy are fundamentally interlinked, a change in energy dE (WORK) requires a change in time dT to be put into effect! The fact that there is a TIME INDEPENDENT schrodinger equation which proves true intrinsically disproves your idea that the atom is in any kind of "perpetual motion". The movement of energy within every atom is not perpetual motion. Energy is completely conserved within the atom and this provides restraints on the possible energy configurations observable within the atom. Perpetual motion is defined as anything that breaks the law of energy conservation.
The establishment confuses me not, nor do I wish to be confused (if I sought to be confused, I'd still be bouncing up and down in a mosque right now). I have a much better understanding of physics than you judge, believe me and it isn't through blind faith but experiment and observation. Unlike the Aether theory, conventional physics pieces together so well that I have no doubt who created the reality we exist in.
Rather it is obvious you have a certain fundamental argument against conventional physics, what is it? For example, when you argue against a hadeethist they will ask you all manner of questions of indefinite complexity but these questions arise from one fundamental thing which is simply that you stated hadeeth are not associated with quran. What is your fundamental argument against conventional physics?
To FAR (sorry for not replying before, but I am very busy) as well as Mr Nur As for these hiccups found in conventional physics I ask two questions of you;
1.) How else have these coronal temperatures been measured other than with conventional physics?
2.) Does the "Aether theory" explain why the coronal temperature is the way it is or indeed why pulsars have currents that move faster than light which I presume you talk about?
Another thing, Allah "himself" calls "himself" the "light of the heavens and the earth" (2435). Do you understand the physical properties of light/information/thought? It correlates very well with the quranic concept of Allah. There is no need for any "aether theory" because we already know what the "divine aether" is, which is light - all pervading, all seeing, all knowing, all-hearing, boundless in capacity, all-giving, the list goes on.
Also Mr Nur, have you been in "hyperspace"?
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Salaam OPF,
How can it be possible for you to agree with the conclusion of my last post, when to do so rejects most conventional physics?
The Zionist banking system is based on energy, in as far as it balances on the control of supply, this being linked with the fiat monetary system, so it must maintain dependency on the technology of these polluting and expensive primitive technologies, and the suppression of all knowledge and technology that would remove this monopoly.
As for your insistence that the endless motion within every atom is not perpetual motion only demonstrates your subjugation to the dogma of conventional confused physics. You do not seem to be grasping what I am saying, you can not describe the universe with abstract mathematics, as it is an ?A? symmetrical universe, the order and direction is physical, not abstract, to use abstract mathematical models shows very little, the original Quaternion mathematics of James Clerk Maxwell has been reduced down to 10% to hide the true nature of electromagnetic understandings, if you wish to understand energy, understand the full nature of Maxwell?s quaternion equations.
The universe is manifest, it demonstrates this in many ways, it is an open energy exchange, you must investigate the root nature of this universe to grasp its underlying structure, it has simple foundations that are ignored by conventional physics. The nature of this reality is fluidic, we are awash with expanding waves, ripples and currents, this exposes in a simple way the underlying fluidic manifold that manifests the hologram of the physical universe. Michelson-Morley intentionally misrepresented the results of their experiment to create an uncontested conclusion.
As for the so called law of conservation, just as the big bang, black holes and dark matter it is just one in a long list of groundless lies propagated within the conventional view of physics.
You are correct time is energy, this being the case using your conventional physics explain where the energy of time comes from?
As for you ridiculous proof of the schrodinger equation proving that atoms require no energy to demonstrate internal movement because they are time dependent can only be described as conventional non-sense, here?s an easy one for you to explain with conventional physics where does charge come from?
1.) How else have these coronal temperatures been measured other than with conventional physics?
You are suggesting that conventional physics has measured the temperature therefore we should accept whatever they say about physics, without ever questioning it?
2.) Does the "Aether theory" explain why the coronal temperature is the way it is or indeed why pulsars have currents that move faster than light which I presume you talk about?
A pulsar is a binary star system, the plasma balls or stars arc across, as can be demonstrated within the laboratory on a small scale, as within nature the only difference is scale, so the ridiculous idea of spinning stars exceeding the speed of light within their spin, I will leave in the fantasy realms of your conventional physics dogma. For those reading this, which view do you think most likely, that a star could spin once every 1.4 milliseconds breaking the speed of light as it spins so fast, or that two stars arc across, which can be demonstrated within a lab?
As for Allah being the physical nature of light as the essence and nature of Allah as you describe, it is so confused as to be insulting to the true nature of Allah, please feel free if you wish to consider a view free of conventional physics and the dogma of intentional perversions of the truth, to read the view I present on my website,
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/92/124/
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Peace,
Don't worry how it can be possible for me to agree with that conclusion while still agreeing with "conventional physics". It clearly does not appear fathomable to you in the first place. Don't take this offensively (indeed I intend no offense whatsoever throughtout my post so please do not get a bruised ego; indeed a bruised ego is where the denial of reason and reality takes hold). If you understood "conventional physics" then you would realise that all the truthful things you talk about on your site have been demonstrated long ago by it.
The Zionist banking system does not change the law of energy conservation. If they did, there would be no need for usury in the first place. If you are going to hold onto this notion of "The Grand Zionist Conspiracy" dominating everything I think you may need to rethink your world view. Jews cannot and do not change the laws of physics. As such the "Zionist banks" have to charge interest to get around that.
You say "the original Quaternion mathematics of James Clerk Maxwell has been reduced down to 10% to hide the true nature of electromagnetic understandings", I sincerely doubt that you even grasp the mathematics behind the 4 equations in the first place let alone being able to judge such a thing. Also searching for the "remaining 90%" leads me to a dude called T. E. Bearden, well known crackpot and advocate of over-unity.
If I said that the quran is heavily distorted and in reality it actually says Jesus is coming back soon with an army of velociraptors to save Earth from the Zionist Conspiracy then I say "read the Arabic but you have to go read the 900AD tablet to really find out for sure" without any actual knowledge of Arabic myself, I would be rightfully known as an "idiot". You are claiming the equivalent of this statement. Go learn some elementary mathematics and what a unit of measurement is then we can talk on a level, I'm not asking you to go trawl through volumes of tafseer or look through journals, a simple elementary understanding will do.
Do you know why all these crackpots NEVER demonstrate more than a basic understanding of mathematics and physics? It's not because as soon as you progress from this understanding the Zionist Messiah appears in front of you and lets you know that if you follow anything else the Zionist conspiracy has been watching you and will hence make life hell for you, the reason is that as soon as you progress beyond that conventional physics becomes highly intuitive and blindingly obvious that it is indeed the reality. All these questions of energy conservation and whatnot are already answered but you actually have to take the time to learn why things are the way they are instead of sitting around and babbling endless inconsistent yet verbose nonsense as they do.
As for the law of conservation, there is no "groundless lie" involved, sorry. A simple experiment will prove this, spin a spinning top around on a smooth surface. It will always come to a halt. Also, what the hell is "energy of time"? As for where charge comes from, it would arise as soon as the electromagnetic force branches off from the fundamental force. There is no point asking "where it comes from" because any so called proof of "where it comes from" is inherently unfalsifiable, and yes, that includes your aether theories.
As for the schrodinger equation, you can describe it as "conventional non-sense" but that only displays how clearly ignorant you are of physics, in the same way that an atheist challenges the quran and cites all sorts of supposed "contradictions" when in reality he is speaking from a perspective of manifest ignorance. If you fail to grasp the inherent relation between time and energy then you have lost the battle before you have picked up your sword.
I shall repeat it again. Motion, the definition of which is a change in energy/momentum over time dE/dt or dP/dt requires guess what? A change in energy/momentum... over time! Now do you grasp it or do we have to go through that again? Now given that you can describe the states of the atom without using any "dT" that also intrinsically means there is no "dE" and no such thing as perpetual motion. Indeed, motion ceases to be defined on that scale and you would understand why this is intuitively obvious if you took the time to learn.
1.) How else have these coronal temperatures been measured other than with conventional physics?
You are suggesting that conventional physics has measured the temperature therefore we should accept whatever they say about physics, without ever questioning it?
You are questioning the foundations of conventional physics using the techniques of highly advanced conventional physics. A thoroughly ridiculous mode of questioning. It's like saying "because there is no description of ritual salat in the quran, there obviously is no God or quran and clearly we are actually floating around inside an alien child's snowglobe given to them on Christmas day".
2.) Does the "Aether theory" explain why the coronal temperature is the way it is or indeed why pulsars have currents that move faster than light which I presume you talk about?
A pulsar is a binary star system, the plasma balls or stars arc across, as can be demonstrated within the laboratory on a small scale, as within nature the only difference is scale, so the ridiculous idea of spinning stars exceeding the speed of light within their spin, I will leave in the fantasy realms of your conventional physics dogma. For those reading this, which view do you think most likely, that a star could spin once every 1.4 milliseconds breaking the speed of light as it spins so fast, or that two stars arc across, which can be demonstrated within a lab?
The spin does not "exceed the speed of light", you demonstrate a lack of understanding as to what is actually going on. In reality it is merely that the group velocity of electric current exceeds the speed of light which is more than possible (if I spin around and point a laser into space, at some point the laser dot will "travel" faster than the speed of light but nowhere has the speed of light actually been exceeded). However the fundamental barrier is the speed of information, which has never been violated and never will.
As for your last sentence, I am not really going to consider your website any longer when you have clearly demonstrated a willing ignorance against learning things in the first place. Why should I even acknowledge your website (keeping in mind I have already read the whole damn thing) when you cannot demonstrate a grasp of basic mathematics and physical laws? It shows that you clearly have no damn clue as to what you're talking about and it shows
Energy.
So is matter itself energy; Energy = Mass x the speed of light squared (E=Mc ) which expresses matter as energy, which is true, but not exactly accurate, it should be E=Tc which will become clear as you read on, as only time mass exists, so if the material Universe is simply energy, what is energy?
I don't think that Allah being the physical nature of light is confusing whatosever. In fact it explains with tremendous clarity as to why things are the way they are (e.g. evolution) and it correlates quranic concepts with reality in a strikingly fundamental manner. However I do not define "Allah" as "light" per se but there is a fundamental connection. I ask of you one thing, in 2435 where this is stated, is the first statement that "Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth" a metaphor? I think it isn't because the next sentence straight away puts forth a parable.
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Salaam OPF,
As I said previously it does not matter what I say, you have a view without foundation, I will happily leave you with you view, enjoy it, don't worry about my views or the evidence, it will only upset you, have a good life, I don't wish to waste anymore of my time on your rubbish.
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There is no upsetting involved. If you wish to challenge physics, it's so unbelievably easy provide a counter example to disprove an equation.
Then funnily enough, your counter example is then within the domain of "conventional physics" and it turns out all the previous theories were merely approximations to your theory which itself is an approximation of the next ad infinitum.
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Salaam OPF,
the universe is not abstract mathematics, its a perception reactive manifestation, this generates physical predetermined results from action, known as evidence through this predetermination, you do not include evidence in your investigations how ever limited, so in effect accept only that your peers propagate, but that is not my problem, and you do not have any interest in investigating the truth only attempting to express the dogma of your peers.
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Salaam OPF,
the universe is not abstract mathematics, its a perception reactive manifestation, this generates physical predetermined results from action, known as evidence through this predetermination, you do not include evidence in your investigations how ever limited, so in effect accept only that your peers propagate, but that is not my problem, and you do not have any interest in investigating the truth only attempting to express the dogma of your peers.
Actually abstract mathematics is merely a tool to express the words you speak. We can say "Perception reactive manifestation", but does that help when we are trying to build telescopes and computers? Not really, you need to put it into numbers.
Funnily enough, what you describe as "perception reactive manifestation" is identical to the abstract mathematical concept of taking the initial wavefunction of a system then integrating (i.e. summing up all the states in between) to get to the now. If you imagine how the wavefunction evolves over time, new constraints (reaction) are imposed (manifested) on the moment from the previous states (perception).
There is a very fundamental link between the kind of spirituality and "conventional physics" but you will not see that until you open your mind to accepting that the universe can be described in abstract mathematics. The confusion in abstract mathematics comes from the lack of understanding of it, it is EXACTLY as clear as "2+2=4" when you get round to understanding it.
However there is no definite predestination. Instead, at each new instant of time things are simply allowed to "be" and if they choose a path that God does not like, in the next instant that path is then forbidden. Think about this verse
041.011 Then He directed Himself to the heaven and it is a vapor, so He said to it and to the earth Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both said We come willingly.
Also refer to the other verses, for instance those of the "great Shout" (7913) or in general, things like so. What is a "shout"? A vibration. What is a vibration? An oscillation. What is an oscillation? A wave. And this is where QM enters the picture. It is clear to me that God is looking for something in particular and when he finds this, that is when judgement will commence because he then has conceptualised eternity, the universe awakens within its own Self. He will then send a single ripple through the universe that will transform it into judgement time. Ironically this will be the FIRST instance of God demonstrating his newly built "eternity supercomputer". It does not change that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, etc because when you say "all-knowing" in this universe, the limit of "knowing all" is not "knowing every possibility" but rather every realistically concievable possibility. There are actually no paradoxes involved whatsoever when you actually consider these things in depth.
Bill Hicks got it in one - "Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather".
Peace, I hope this makes things somewhat clearer. The more I learn about physics, the less "faith" I need to believe in God's existence.
Also perpetual motion is a direct violation of Allah's command in the quran that nothing in existence can create or destroy a thing, it can only manipulate.