How I became a Submitter Wife
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Salam,
Don't bother sister because as you may see he ignored everyone's questions...
Peace be upon you
Salam Alaykom,
As I see you did the same thing ... So don't advice someone while you can't hold the advice yourself.
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Why is it that native Arabic speakers so often resort to this if they run out of arguments? )
No, it's not running away from answer you, Everyone from native arabic speaker find english a poor language because of the lack of the meanings plus the limits of derivation let alone the context of the sentence in english requires a specific orders limits the enlarge of the meanings .
the language arabic differs totaly from any other language in the world, we have the so-called the science of the language wgich is involved specific skills in arabic and the deviation of meanings differ in a word not a whole sentence . I can make "" in more than 365 words .
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I suggest you read some of the articles on the starting page which address this issue. There really is not much to add.
thank you for your suggestion, but I take my lessons from scientists of Qur'an and Sunnah.
I would really appreciate it if you could refrain from using a condescending tone. It has nothing to do with "understanding", it's a matter of differing opinions.
ah sorry if you consider my post a condescending tone .
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Peace all
You said I know arabic which means a superficial knowledge of the language of the "Dh'adh".
First you attack people claiming they don't know anything because they don't know anything and then when someone says that they do know Arabic you claim that it is not good enough? Well, I've already given you the verses showing that God explains the Quran. By the way, you need to learn Arabic because it is Salamun 'alaykum not
Salam Alaykomsecondly, God have told his prophet some events aren't mentionned in Qur'an to make his message more strenght .
ok that doesn't even make sense so stop making stuff up. Read 693, 1815, 2968 and 3932.
if you said that hadiths is not coming with some issues aren't existing in Qur'an, think again because I can cite plenty of them .
Site what exactly? I've given you Quranic verses ie God's words that state that we can't follow the hadiths and that the messenger was not allowed to even say any of them. Do you have stronger proof?
some of the prophecies of the prophet that are not mentionned in Qur'an are the Arab shephers and the competition of buildings the tall buildings "tower" and if you look for statistics in a website you'll find that they are competing in building tall buildings, ah and let me remind you that the Arab shepherds are the people of the area of khalij where now the tall buildings are designed and built, and now the governor of saoudi arabic want to build the most great tower in the world breaking the records of what Qatar did or UAE did.
Yeah because they didn't have tall buildings then )
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http//department.monm.edu/classics/images/mausoleum.jpgBy the way, did you completely ignore the verses I gave you earlier? Because you keep repeating that the Quran is not detailed even though I gave you verses that say that the Quran is perfect, complete and detailed.
... Who is more wicked than one who denies God's revelations and turns away from them? We will punish those who turn away from Our revelations with the pain of retribution for what they turned away {6157}
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Peace all
First you attack people claiming they don't know anything because they don't know anything and then when someone says that they do know Arabic you claim that it is not good enough? Well, I've already given you the verses showing that God explains the Quran. By the way, you need to learn Arabic because it is Salamun 'alaykum not
ok that doesn't even make sense so stop making stuff up. Read 693, 1815, 2968 and 3932.Salam Alaykom,
Hey sister don't challenge me(this is an advice) .
about what you said in "salamun'alaykum" adding the "un" like you want to give it a movement, well I don't need to add the "un" because after all is not arabic the real word is " " .
and about the verses that you gave me about that the Qur'an have already detailed is not literally, yes you're right Qur'an is detailed but not as you think .
you don't know where the Qur'an is detailed . the word"" means detailed in english but detailed in what, here they have to add detailed in provision which is in arabic " ".Site what exactly? I've given you Quranic verses ie God's words that state that we can't follow the hadiths and that the messenger was not allowed to even say any of them. Do you have stronger proof?
ah I forgot that you gave me verses out of their context tempt
Yeah because they didn't have tall buildings then
firs of all I've said Arabs shepherds >>>> the pictures are hundreds years ago before even the message of Islam.PLus no relation between the picture in the arab shepherds.
Second of all >>>> these buildings as you claimed that they are tall, their high is limiting in less than 400 m>>> the buildings in the hadiths talks about tall ones which they are now reaching more than 1000 m ..wake up.By the way, did you completely ignore the verses I gave you earlier? Because you keep repeating that the Quran is not detailed even though I gave you verses that say that the Quran is perfect, complete and detailed.
I didn't ignore them but I ignore answer you about them, because you don't know what's the meanings of detailed.
the meanings are
complete in verses and detailed in provision . I want you to understand, I'm not trying to defeat you!!
complete in verses and detailed in provision.... Who is more wicked than one who denies God's revelations and turns away from them? We will punish those who turn away from Our revelations with the pain of retribution for what they turned away {6157}
well, again the verse is out of its context, I'm not denying the God's words, in adition to this the verses talks about a specific people . nope
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I don't understand your English so I have no idea what you're trying to say about the shepherds.. not that it matters anyway.
I don't know what you're trying to say about the problem with saying salamun 'alaykum. You might want to refer to the Quran and see how it is written there. I'm pretty sure God knows better Arabic then you.
Let me write a conclusion for you
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If you don't know Arabic, then you can't understand the Quran
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If you do know Arabic then you only have a superficial knowledge of it
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Therefore no one understand the Quran except for me for I am holier than thou
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The verses from the Quran don't matter anymore because they are always out of context
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blah blah blah blah blah
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I don't understand your English so I have no idea what you're trying to say about the shepherds.. not that it matters anyway.
my english was so clear, in fact especially for you I wrote simple words .so understand it or not; it's your problem.
I don't know what you're trying to say about the problem with saying salamun 'alaykum. You might want to refer to the Quran and see how it is written there. I'm pretty sure God knows better Arabic then you.
Yeah sure, first of all no comparison between creature and creator, he knows everything. The real problem is yours (you're making statements but you don't know what you're stating).
Let me write a conclusion for you
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If you don't know Arabic, then you can't understand the Quran
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If you do know Arabic then you only have a superficial knowledge of it
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Therefore no one understand the Quran except for me for I am holier than thou
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The verses from the Quran don't matter anymore because they are always out of context
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blah blah blah blah blah
Arabic is the language of Qur'an, who acts Good in Arabic, sure he will act Good in understanding Qur'an.
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my english was so clear, in fact especially for you I wrote simple words .so understand it or not; it's your problem.
Yeah sure, first of all no comparison between creature and creator, he knows everything. The real problem is yours (you're making statements but you don't know what you're stating).Arabic is the language of Qur'an, who acts Good in Arabic, sure he will act Good in understanding Qur'an.
Believe me, your English is so not clear! No it's not my problem because I don't care for the nonsense you're talking about.
Bye now!
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Believe me, your English is so not clear! No it's not my problem because I don't care for the nonsense you're talking about.
Bye now!
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Salaam
When I first got together with my Husband he was already a submitter but I was not, I was on the guidance of god but not as a submitter, I still attended my baptist church in new orleans but all there Jesus crap rubbed me the wrong way. I read and re read the psalms and proverbs and stayed pretty much in those books only. When I moved to another state to be with my husband(boyfriend at the time or whatever) he introduced to me www.submission.org and www.quran-islam.org and the Quran. I took my time reading Yusuf Ali's version and it touched my heart. I read the progressive muslims version of the Quran " The message" and again it touched my heart to be true. When I was going through a hard time and my husband I were going to split up due to him going through a spiritual Jihad with satan. He left for about a month and lived alone. In that time I re read the Quran in that month and started making my 3 daily salat, installed the adhan on the computer more out of a alarm clock neccesity but the Fajr salat really got to me. I said my shahaddah and was about to move on in my life without my now husband when wherever he was at it was not working out and he came back home. Within the First week of being back together he came back to his spirituallity and by Gods grace we were given a Quiblah and some Qurans and other islamical things by the people we were going to go buy a dresser from at like a yard sale. I became a SUBMITTER wife when I realized how the Quran was true, how the Quran was all I needed, not hadiths or the bible or anything else. I made my Shahaddah and I realized that GOD is real and that He is the only one I needed in my life. I became a wife to a wonder man who shares my same beliefs and values and religion. I came to be a submitter wife by GOD and His wonderful Guidance via the Quran.Peace,
Respectfully.welcome welcome to the forum, sister and may God bless you.
Many people have outstanding stories and this one is truly one about a struggle.
Keep up and keep reading The Quran. Keeps me on The Straight Path.
Thank God.Peace.