And the women reject you, so what do you do?
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If someone said this to you "Please don't contact me anymore. I'm not into playing games and trying to figure out hidden meanings or agendas."... what do you do?
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Say okay?
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Don't reply because quran 5811?
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Post a question on the forum and give it to a vote?
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Post a question.. and just consider the answers?
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Start hating women... again?
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Are you serious?
How does not replying link with 5811?
you forgot to add 5. none of the above, other.
Well since you asked, quran 5811 follows the general theme of if you obey to other peoples commands in public matters and their personal matters, then the god will do the same for you.
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You know what... I'm going to treat you like if you were my sister... elektro
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Well since you asked, quran 5811 follows the general theme of if you obey to other peoples commands in public matters and their personal matters, then the god will do the same for you.
If that be true why ignore?
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How about "I don't see how i am playing games or hiding messages because that's not my intention nor a reflection of any of my actions, i feel you're misinterpreting me but if you don't wish to speak to me that's fine, i'll leave you be." that's what i'd say but then again i dont know what you did or said so hm. weird weird question for you to ask.
You know what... I'm going to treat you like if you were my sister... elektro
I assumed we'd all be treated like bro's and sisters but if you meant blood sister that's kinda scary hopefully she'd know how to retaliate
Peace
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You know what... I'm going to treat you like if you were my sister... elektro
You are a very good Sunni,( great) -*
Sunni?
I followed quran 3159.
Of course if you want to suggest that I am of a sect, then you would be violating quran 6159.
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If someone said this to you "Please don't contact me anymore. I'm not into playing games and trying to figure out hidden meanings or agendas."... what do you do?
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Say okay?
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Don't reply because quran 5811?
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Post a question on the forum and give it to a vote?
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Post a question.. and just consider the answers?
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Start hating women... again?
If a woman asks you "Please don't contact me anymore" that would mean welcome
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If that be true why ignore?
How about "I don't see how i am playing games or hiding messages because that's not my intention nor a reflective of any of my actions, i feel you're misinterpreting me but if you don't wish to speak to me that's fine, i'll leave you be." that's what i'd say but then again i dont know what you did or said so hm. weird weird question for you to ask.
I assumed we'd all be treated like bro's and sisters but if you meant blood sister that's kinda scary hopefully she'd know how to retaliate
Peace
Where does the quran say that we should be treated like brothers and sisters? I'm sure it sates that we should treat each other like friends. I wouldn't say girlfriends and boyfriends, since such terms are ageist. Quran 971... because quran 2235 makes that clear. And if we were treating each other like brothers and sisters, then it means we have no interest in quran 2235.
But I cannot give her a reply... because she ordered me to not talk to her. I once told a convert muslimah, that if she blocked people... then the god will block her (she blocked me once, I created a new account). What happened to her is that she then made something that I would consider to be of occult... she rejected my consideration and blocked me again, as well as her friend who she learned that occult thing from... though they didn't consider it to be occult but rather normal. What then happened to that girl... well the last time I saw her on youtube, she posted a video on how her dog died and she had issues with islam, and thus she had become an atheist... no hijab what not. Unfortunately her friend became secular and at issue with islam as well though considered herself a muslim.
For some reason I almost blame myself... but inshallah the god has the greater purpose in mind... perhaps they're included? The god knows.
But ultimately, when someone tells me to do something, these day I do it... unless if it involves personal things that I have authority of.
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Did I say it was from the Quran? Please quote me. Dude brothers and sisters in the sense of brotherhood of islam, as in mutual respect, connection by guidance not blood. 2235 ? how does this have any correlation? you?re so silly sometimes.
But I cannot give her a reply... because she ordered me to not talk to her. I once told a convert muslimah, that if she blocked people... then the god will block her (she blocked me once, I created a new account). What happened to her is that she then made something that I would consider to be of occult... she rejected my consideration and blocked me again, as well as her friend who she learned that occult thing from... though they didn't consider it to be occult but rather normal. What then happened to that girl... well the last time I saw her on youtube, she posted a video on how her dog died and she had issues with islam, and thus she had become an atheist... no hijab what not. Unfortunately her friend became secular and at issue with islam as well though considered herself a muslim.
Why ask if you have accepted her word of not replying because she ordered you not to talk to her?
Some people block others because they?re a nuisance.
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Did I say it was from the Quran? Please quote me. Dude brothers and sisters in the sense of brotherhood of islam, as in mutual respect, connection by guidance not blood. 2235 ? how does this have any correlation? you?re so silly sometimes.
Why ask if you have accepted her word of not replying because she ordered you not to talk to her?
Some people block others because they?re a nuisance.
Do you know anything about being a lawyer?
"Please don't contact me anymore. I'm not into playing games and trying to figure out hidden meanings or agendas. So stopmessaging me. Thank you." This is what she said.
Well if you want to take the brotherhood of islam, and imply it upon muslimahs and muslims are brothers and sisters upon each other, then you'd probably have no choice but to agree with those born of muslim parents and what not who end up having only a choice of marrying non-siblings (non-muslims). I know I cannot, so I would have to make a new thread in regards to this subject.
You want to say that I'm silly? Because my ex-wife used to say the same thing before we were married, but today I don't have any means of supporting a wife as according to quran 2433 and 424, so I cannot do quran 2235
I'd have to just say that you and many women aren't very sharp at all... perhaps we need more muslimahs who are educated in the manner as I was... well perhaps I would be better off if that was possible, or if they were at least able to handle my type of individual. -
Where does the quran say that we should be treated like brothers and sisters? I'm sure it sates that we should treat each other like friends. I wouldn't say girlfriends and boyfriends, since such terms are ageist. Quran 971... because quran 2235 makes that clear. And if we were treating each other like brothers and sisters, then it means we have no interest in quran 2235.
(4910)The Believers are but a single Brotherhood So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers And fear Allah that ye may receive Mercy.
Well, not exactly asking Believers to treat each other like brothers and sisters... But I take it that ayah asks us to treat Believers like you will treat your own family. Meaning, treat them with love and kindness, and it does not mean, we should not marry Believers from the opposite sex (otherwise I'll practice celibacy lol)
BTW, I assume you like this girl? Why don't you approach and talk to her in a nice and respectful manner, not like as a man to a woman, but as a Muslim to another Muslim. She showed that she had some doubts and issues about Islam, then why don't you come to her, offering some help as best as you can? That's what I'll do to any Muslims who are struggling with Islam. InshaAllah if you can help her resolve her issues, you two can be closer, as Brother and Sister in Islam of course, and she may not reject you anymore.
What did you do that made her reject you by the way?
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(4910)The Believers are but a single Brotherhood So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers And fear Allah that ye may receive Mercy.
Well, not exactly asking Believers to treat each other like brothers and sisters... But I take it that ayah asks us to treat Believers like you will treat your own family. Meaning, treat them with love and kindness, and it does not mean, we should not marry Believers from the opposite sex (otherwise I'll practice celibacy lol)
BTW, I assume you like this girl? Why don't you approach and talk to her in a nice and respectful manner, not like as a man to a woman, but as a Muslim to another Muslim. She showed that she had some doubts and issues about Islam, then why don't you come to her, offering some help as best as you can? That's what I'll do to any Muslims who are struggling with Islam. InshaAllah if you can help her resolve her issues, you two can be closer, as Brother and Sister in Islam of course, and she may not reject you anymore.
What did you do that made her reject you by the way?
I have moved the brother and sister topic here http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600050.0
Yes I may have liked her enough to reply to the post she made here that said that if people were like minded as her, then they were invited to PM her. I don't think she showed any doubts and issues about islam, I only talked about myself. And no I'm not seeking marriage, just those of quran 971, but she seems to be looking for marriage as I only found out after she told me to not contact her.
Well, you've not asked me to quote her but I believe it was along the lines of
That I made her a bit confused. And to what she expected to do in regards to what I said. That I introduced myself as someone who has trouble with women on here and around the world. And it was questionable in regards to if that was appropriate. Or rather that I should have let her get to know about myself and then she would come to her own conclusions without me souring them by negativity from the start. That I present myself negatively and that I made the mistake of telling a woman that I generally have troubles with women on the forum. And this would have put her on guard. That it would have been better if I was to let her know about myself and let her give me a fair chance to see who those people are really like.That was one thing... and then I made the mistake of being even more cryptic when I should have been less so. And then she replied forbidding me to contact her.
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Do you know anything about being a lawyer?
What does that have to do with anything?
"Please don't contact me anymore. I'm not into playing games and trying to figure out hidden meanings or agendas. So stopmessaging me. Thank you." This is what she said.
If you have agreed to follow her directions why do you even bother to question what others should do? Do you want people to have sympathy for you or pity you or something?
Well if you want to take the brotherhood of islam, and imply it upon muslimahs and muslims are brothers and sisters upon each other, then you'd probably have no choice but to agree with those born of muslim parents and what not who end up having only a choice of marrying non-siblings (non-muslims). I know I cannot, so I would have to make a new thread in regards to this subject.
You?re understanding is illogical, the brotherhood of islam is an ideological connotation not a literal brother/sister in islam. You must understand concepts do not contradict. So in verse 4910 what does it say to you?
You want to say that I'm silly? Because my ex-wife used to say the same thing before we were married, but today I don't have any means of supporting a wife as according to quran 2433 and 424, so I cannot do quran 2235
I'd have to just say that you and many women aren't very sharp at all... perhaps we need more muslimahs who are educated in the manner as I was... well perhaps I would be better off if that was possible, or if they were at least able to handle my type of individual.Are you asserting your education is better than mine and that makes you greater than me? What makes me not sharp? My education? makes me wonder how you have knowledge of the unseen, because i don't recall telling you about my education. so maybe it's my opinions because it?s not what you agree with? you must feel very proud of yourself for being so great.
people are handling you doesn't mean they need to agree with you.
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What does that have to do with anything?
If you have agreed to follow her directions why do you even bother to question what others should do? Do you want people to have sympathy for you or pity you or something?You?re understanding is illogical, the brotherhood of islam is an ideological connotation not a literal brother/sister in islam. You must understand concepts do not contradict. So in verse 4910 what does it say to you?
Are you asserting your education is better than mine and that makes you greater than me? What makes me not sharp? My education? makes me wonder how you have knowledge of the unseen, because i don't recall telling you about my education. so maybe it's my opinions because it?s not what you agree with? you must feel very proud of yourself for being so great.
people are handling you doesn't mean they need to agree with you.
What being a lawyer has to do with anything is, that in law, you have to find peculiarities of escaping the roadblocks to what you want to do. I want to talk to her, and tell her about quran 5811 or something else, and a great lawyer would understand this and not give up.
Do you wish to make my day difficult and state that no man could be smarter than you? I do not know your education. But if you were standing from where I was... then I would have at least expected a review of why I was "silly". Because it was you was asking the questions, and then you made a statement that almost seemed like an insult to my intelligence. How does a person ask questions when they have been judged to be silly. Do they reply with even more silly questions?
Your questions made you seem a little dull. You don't recall telling me your education? Well I haven't seen you use that education, so it seems you've failed there. And it would be improper for me to ask about your failures. Personally I feel like I am at least trying to apply what I have learned and what I have been told to expect, more so than you. You could only say that we have different standards... but seriously, in communication, improper methods would fail quran 3159 & 16125.
And I expect more from women. I expect that they know humanity so well... that it would be easy for me to say "wow... what amazing bunch of muslimahs we have"... maybe I expected too much from you and other muslim women? But seriously, muslimahs are supposed to be the best sort of people on the face of this planet. I have no choice but to expect... or at least pray for the best.
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The reason why i called you silly was because of your correlation of muslim brothers and sisters through faith and verse 2235. In future i won't be judgemental, so i'm sorry.
I never said i was better or worse but clearly you did
You want to say that I'm silly? Because my ex-wife used to say the same thing before we were married, but today I don't have any means of supporting a wife as according to quran 2433 and 424, so I cannot do quran 2235
I'd have to just say that you and many women aren't very sharp at all... perhaps we need more muslimahs who are educated in the manner as I was... well perhaps I would be better off if that was possible, or if they were at least able to handle my type of individual.I don't wish to make your day difficult. good luck trying and not giving up. though let me share my not so sharp opinion, if you choose to do nothing because she said not to talk to her, you're simply just complaining and making your situation a problem.so how do you expect to make a solution from the very problem? if you feel the need to send her a message maybe you could ask someone you trust, on your behalf to send that message to her, in case you feel you're violating her right you may wish to tell the mediator to add a note as to why they are a go-between.
peace.
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The reason why i called you silly was because of your correlation of muslim brothers and sisters through faith and verse 2235. In future i won't be judgemental, so i'm sorry.
I never said i was better or worse but clearly you did
I don't wish to make your day difficult. good luck trying and not giving up. though let me share my not so sharp opinion, if you choose to do nothing because she said not to talk to her, you're simply just complaining and making your situation a problem. so how do you expect to make a solution from the very problem? if you feel the need to send her a message maybe you could ask someone you trust, on your behalf to send that message to her, in case you feel you're violating her right you may wish to tell the mediator to add a note as to why they are a go-between.
peace.
I don't accept apologizes. I can only be a witness that you said such a thing. If I'm silly, I would want to know where I went wrong, and what I should do about it. That I can accept. What I cannot accept is judgment that would lead me to endlessly contemplating that I am how I was judged and there is no way out. Because normally with judgement, there would be some sort of way for rehabilitation, nO? After a sin, there should be some way for me to return to the proper method by repenting and seeking forgiveness and what not... but if I'm not given that then I'd be at loss. She of course managed to give judgment and provide methods of rehabing myself.
"perhaps we need more muslimahs who are educated in the manner as I was... well perhaps I would be better off if that was possible, or if they were at least able to handle my type of individual."
That means I prefer to have like minded people, or those who knowledgeable enough to understand whatever cryptic message I may be able to give, or at least attempt to hazard a guess. I've only come across a handful of people if not less than that, who could or would even try to attempt such a thing.
Well it's obvious that I seem to be complaining because I find it problematic that the only female or even person on this forum seemed to interested in the same things as I am, but they're not interested in me.
"so how do you expect to make a solution from the very problem?" - I expect someone to order me to tell them more about this individual so that they could advocate on my behalf for that individual to take back what they said. No I cannot ask you to send a message, that would be contacting her. You have to demand those particular of contacting.
Not her rights, quran 5811 and her ordering me to do what not.
"I don't wish to make your day difficult" - I don't believe women should give-in (submit) to men.
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No problem, you don?t need to accept my apology at least it?s a reminder for me to not let my opinions interfere. Though you should be aware that you?ve been judgemental.
What i meant by rights were in matters of ethics.. i?m not sure what you meant
though if she is a member here i?m sure she can read your thread.
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No problem, you don?t need to accept my apology at least it?s a reminder for me to not let my opinions interfere. Though you should be aware that you?ve been judgemental.
What i meant by rights were in matters of ethics.. i?m not sure what you meant
though if she is a member here i?m sure she can read your thread.
No it's not a reminder for you to not let your opinions interfere, but for your opinions to be more islamic, by the book. I don't know ethics, the quran is greater than that. And people learn ethics from the quran.
She looked like she was just browsing this place for marriage offers. And no activity since 3rd march, I think I scared her off towards some next place.