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did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

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    Thereformer1
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    I didnt call YOU dear I said 'Oh dear', the meaning of which has already been given you.
    How dare you say that the previous prophets 'didnt manage' but 'the prophet of Islam did'!!! I am gobsmacked you dare to come out with such a .........I cant even think of a word brickwall Try reading Quran sometime, you will find that Abraham Moses Jesus and ALL OTHER previous prophets were also prophets of ISLAM, prophets of the SAME GOD with the SAME MESSAGE and the part given to Muhammed was completing the message that had started LONG BEFORE. Islam didnt start with Muhammed, read Quran and you MIGHT learn something.
    Lord give me strength! pr

    the prophet Muhammed " " managed everything, the whole world and God sent it for every nation on the earth or to be specific God sent it to the whole univers even the Djinn must follow him, the prophets that you have mentionned have been sent to a specific nation through time . I know that they were Muslims as well.

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      Thereformer1
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      Are you serious? I am SURE God will forgive me for following Quran alone as that's what He told me to do rotfl YOU are the one introducing other things into Islam when He clearly warned you against it rotfl

      well, laughing is just for a time . we know that the people of Hell most of them are women, you just proved that.

      you said you're sure that God will forgive you which make you making a prediction or a prophecy about the unknown, another sin added to your list of sins. congratulation again Madam seer.

      oh and 'Jews for Jews' ? Who was Jew then, thats one I didnt hear of? rotfl

      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

      No I didnt think you could answer it, never mind eh rotfl

      I don't want to bother myself explaining to a friend of Satan

      This guy is hilarious rotfl rotfl rotfl

      ah thanks , I'm flattered

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        Ayisha
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        well, laughing is just for a time . we know that the people of Hell most of them are women, you just proved that.

        you said you're sure that God will forgive you which make you making a prediction or a prophecy about the unknown, another sin added to your list of sins. congratulation again Madam seer.
        but you just predicted I will go to hell, thats an unknown so thats your sin.

        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

        I don't want to bother myself explaining to a friend of Satan

        I know WHAT a Jew is, I asked WHO WAS Jew. You were claiming this 'Christ (the man) for Christians, Buddha (the man) for Buddhists and Jews for Jews, I asked who is jew (the man) Jews are not named after a man, it was your mistake, accept it. As for calling me a friend of Satan you couldnt be more wrong. i am the one who follows Quran, you know thats one? its Gods Book. You are the one that thinks God was defficient and needed a MAN to add to His revelations.

        ah thanks , I'm flattered

        you're most welcome rotfl

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          Leyna
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          you know that I'm a guy but you're still insisting in insulting me, and you wonder why I am rude, I don't like people who they insult the Mohajjabate.

          Nobody has insulted them or you at all. I asked you a rhetorical question, I thought it was obvious why -- if you are not a muhajjaba, if you are not a woman with experience of wearing a headscarf, you are in no position to speak up for either, or assume what might insult them or not.

          so you're talking about her, so her desire is not Hijab as he claimed

          I was not talking about Ayisha. But I would be curious as to where she said that "hijab is not her desire".

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            Thereformer1
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            but you just predicted I will go to hell, thats an unknown so thats your sin.

            No I didn't predicted anything , it is a saying and I'll tell you who says it "every Bid'ha with its maker in Hell" .

            I know WHAT a Jew is, I asked WHO WAS Jew. You were claiming this 'Christ (the man) for Christians, Buddha (the man) for Buddhists and Jews for Jews, I asked who is jew (the man) Jews are not named after a man, it was your mistake, accept it. As for calling me a friend of Satan you couldnt be more wrong. i am the one who follows Quran, you know thats one? its Gods Book. You are the one that thinks God was defficient and needed a MAN to add to His revelations. you're most welcome rotfl

            well what you don't know that the sunnah of prophet is inspiration as well, so take it or die not accepting it ..

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              Thereformer1
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              Nobody has insulted them or you at all. I asked you a rhetorical question, I thought it was obvious why -- if you are not a muhajjaba, if you are not a woman with experience of wearing a headscarf, you are in no position to speak up for either, or assume what might insult them or not.

              who says ?

              I was not talking about Ayisha. But I would be curious as to where she said that "hijab is not her desire".

              Curiosity kill yes and she is in need of saying , the avatar says a lot of things about her .

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                Leyna
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                they said that the other religions had made the name of their religions from their prophets

                (christ for christian, jews for jews , budha for budhaism..)

                Christian comes from Christ and Buddhism from Buddha, but Jewish does not come from "Jews".

                There was no prophet called "Jews". There were various prophets in Judaism, for example Abraham and Musa, to name just a couple.

                Quite frankly, I am shocked that you don't seem to be aware of that at all.

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                  Ayisha
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                  No I didn't predicted anything , it is a saying and I'll tell you who says it "every Bid'ha with its maker in Hell" .

                  well what you don't know that the sunnah of prophet is inspiration as well, so take it or die not accepting it ..

                  AHHHHH ! so God lied when He said Quran was complete?? He lied when He said what other hadeeth (yes it says hadeeth in Arabic) will you believe after this (Quran)? He was just fooling everyone until Bukhari came along and collected all the other 'verses' (the ones Muhammed himself said NOT to write down) and no one knew what the hell they were doing without these hadith (that 1% of the total collected and in circulation were actually used a 'true&#039

                  I am so glad you have opened my eyes reformer, I could have stayed a Christian and still been on the same misguided path as you are!

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                    Thereformer1
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                    Quite frankly, I am shocked that you don't seem to be aware of that at all.

                    well, I'm not perfect.

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                      Ayisha
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                      who says ?

                      Curiosity kill yes and she is in need of saying , the avatar says a lot of things about her .

                      your avatar says you have bits of string coming out of you with people tied to it. Mine is a happy hijabi laugh

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                        Thereformer1
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                        AHHHHH ! so God lied when He said Quran was complete?? He lied when He said what other hadeeth (yes it says hadeeth in Arabic) will you believe after this (Quran)? o o He was just fooling everyone until Bukhari came along and collected all the other 'verses' (the ones Muhammed himself said NOT to write down) and no one knew what the hell they were doing without these hadith (that 1% of the total collected and in circulation were actually used a 'true&#039

                        first of all you don't know why prophet said not to write down his sayings, so ignoring the story make you in a state of confusion .

                        second of all prophet ordered not to write down his sayings for the people who they were writing the inspiration, the others not .

                        I am so glad you have opened my eyes reformer, I could have stayed a Christian and still been on the same misguided path as you are!

                        well, you have time back to christianity , and hope not to see you in heaven .

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                          Leyna
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                          the avatar says a lot of things about her .

                          Really? So you're not only capable of determining exactly how much knowledge everyone has -- you can also make a remote character assessment by people's choice of avatars! I'm impressed.

                          So tell me, oh wise one -- what does my avatar reveal about me?

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                            first of all you don't know why prophet said not to write down his sayings, so ignoring the story make you in a state of confusion .

                            second of all prophet ordered not to write down his sayings for the people who they were writing the inspiration, the others not .

                            The propeht ordered, ORDERED, that nothing be written down from him but Quran, the ORDER was never lifted, it was NOT to do with this getting mixed up with Quran verses, it was because ONLY QURAN was from God, the INSPIRATION as you call it, when you have previously said hadeeth are ALSO inspiration from God. Please make your mind up and stick to it.

                            well, you have time back to christianity , and hope not to see you in heaven .

                            I dont think we will be bumping into each other in heaven IF either of us get there eventually, but why would I go back to Christianity when I can go your way and worship Muhammed-god. also, dont you believe I should be killed for leaving Islam?

                            You are not a very nice person at all, you have insulted me when you dont even know me, you have even insulted my avatar (childish), I bet momma is so proud of you. ignore

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                              Sirius
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                              Seriously, why is everyone still arguing. There are some you argue with (usually Muslims) and even if you argued for an age, they will still find something to argue. They rarely keep to the point and usually, their argumentation is so weak that you're at a loss for what to reply. They throw in red herrings whenever they have the chance and resort to ad hominem attacks (attacking Avatars, attacking people's status as converts) not to mention (unashamedly) flexing superiority complexes.

                              You will keep going around and around in circles because to traditional Muslims, even so much as considering that they 'could' be wrong is unfathomable, as demonstrated by our friend Thereformer1. There is plenty more I could touch upon but the fallicious arguments that our friend keeps playing like a broken record speak LOUDLY for themselves )

                              Peace Guys

                              Ps. I'm hungry, which is clear by my spelling mistake. We'll see who spots it.

                              Pss. Who likes my new Avatar? Welcoming? Tehehe )

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                                well, laughing is just for a time . we know that the people of Hell most of them are women, you just proved that.

                                Whoever had fabricated this falsity, that person seems to know nothing about Islam and Paradise and Hell. Women have to be far great in number in the Paradise than the men, since each ordinary citizen of Paradise will be allowed to marry four women. And this is possible only if women are four times in number in the Paradise.

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                                  The propeht ordered, ORDERED, that nothing be written down from him but Quran, the ORDER was never lifted, it was NOT to do with this getting mixed up with Quran verses, it was because ONLY QURAN was from God, the INSPIRATION as you call it, when you have previously said hadeeth are ALSO inspiration from God. Please make your mind up and stick to it.

                                  I've learned today something from a member here "each person to their own" ..so do whatever you want; my aims are not insulting you or being arrogant over you or whatever comes in your mind about me; my aim was just to show you that hadith is so important more than what you think .

                                  without hadith; you'll not understand Quran and if you think that you did understand it; know that it's just your desires and your evil soul and the satan have made you thinking that you did understand it.

                                  without hadith, you'll not undrstand the ligeslation in Islam. and you'll find some provisions hard in practiing them.

                                  without hadith, you'll not know how to pray, you'll not know the compliments of the prophet, you'll not know the inhertence and its conditions, you'll know know the quantity of Zakat neither you'll know for who it is valid.

                                  without hadith, you'll not interpret Quran in the right way.

                                  without hadith, you'll not know the Do'aa; and the sayings before sleeping and after waking up and in every thing you do in your daily life.

                                  without hadith, you'll not be able to know a lot of things as you claimed you do today.

                                  I dont think we will be bumping into each other in heaven IF either of us get there eventually, but why would I go back to Christianity when I can go your way and worship Muhammed-god. also, dont you believe I should be killed for leaving Islam?

                                  well, I'm sure they will kill you.

                                  You are not a very nice person at all, you have insulted me when you dont even know me, you have even insulted my avatar (childish), I bet momma is so proud of you. ignore

                                  No, wrong so don't judge me because of some bad words from me, you didn't hear the nice ones yes.
                                  well, your avatar hold a bad description of a woman wear hijab but she dances like a cheerleader girl which they are "not good" ...so gathering both of the terms is not good, anyway if I offended you by anyway, sorry .

                                  I don't know who should take the proud, but of course who deserves it.

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                                    we know that the people of Hell most of them are women, you just proved that.

                                    for what reason people go to hell brother?

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                                      Thereformer1
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                                      for what reason people go to hell brother?

                                      for many reasons.

                                      Mohammed peace be upon him said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women." SaHeeH Bukhari 29, 304, 1052, 1462, 3241, 5197, 5198, 6449, 6546 (FatH Al-Bari's numbering system)

                                      you know that the Good people also go to hell .

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                                        for many reasons.

                                        Mohammed peace be upon him said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women." SaHeeH Bukhari 29, 304, 1052, 1462, 3241, 5197, 5198, 6449, 6546 (FatH Al-Bari's numbering system)

                                        you know that the Good people also go to hell .

                                        He was a truthful man, he told us what he was shown, women got right to vote only recently and equal wages is still an issue all over the world and there are many other problems women can tell you they face in a society. so surely majority of women still live in a hell-fire.

                                        But my question is still the same, for what reason people go to hell?

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                                          nsws1988
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                                          for what reason people go to hell brother?

                                          for many reasons.

                                          Mohammed peace be upon him said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women." SaHeeH Bukhari 29, 304, 1052, 1462, 3241, 5197, 5198, 6449, 6546 (FatH Al-Bari's numbering system)

                                          you know that the Good people also go to hell .

                                          So you're saying that the people that go to hell are women and good people? I don't think Hitler fits under any of those categories.

                                          well, you have time back to christianity , and hope not to see you in heaven .

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