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    asubmitter
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    Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own?

    How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me remove that splinter in your eye,' when you do not even notice the wooden beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! Remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter in your brother's eye.

    (Luke 6, 41/42)

    Praise God, second time I have come across some pearls of wisdom, from this poster, layna, . Keep it up, maybe if you have time, maybe give a book I am writing a read, I have online as one page, not much of web designer, and not very familiar with wordpress, if two are right will the third be right, I think it would be different, a freedom for the third, or for one of them, if all three are right, I dunno, I write as it appears I'm uncertain whether there is any logic in all three, other than seeing it from my own perspective. I think I'm wasting my talent on here, but I'm gaining just as much as I'm giving, insha allah, let me know if it rings true, or is fallible. Speech is free, but I keep thinking certain particulars I'm giving the wrong impression, I hope to get it published one day, God willing, but always have it up on the net, with the music and the art and the writing.

    peace

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      aurangzaib
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      Sorry friends, I do witness a lot of time being wasted here on topics that are otherwise very crucial and thought-provoking.

      Someone is putting a question without a purpose and with no head or tail thereof. And all the Free Minds just flocking around the guy and chirping meaningless rhetoric endlessly. Affording superfluous importance to meaningless dogmas.

      The guy is a shaky pot with no base to stand upon. Propagating supposed concocted personalities with a lot of hear-say being ascribed to the Prophet. Claiming to be a Hadith follower. A follower of "Cat" (Abu Huraira) and "Dog". A Mushrik. As the following that is prescribed is just of the Book and the Rasool. Not of those who "report" through generations and sources, what Rasool had said two and a half centuries back. What Rasool said or done, was Quran wholly and solely, as he was bound to act acc. to nothing but Quran. And Quran is "Detailed, authoritative and narrates all that is needed for guidance". The bloody worship "Namaz" is nowhere prescribed or detailed therein. What have we to do with that "Namaz"? We have Salat - "the following in letter and spirit of the tenets of Quran".

      Don't play in the hands of a Mushrik's speculative verbiage. I am sorry for this label but it is just in reciprocation of his identical labelling.

      Of course everyone is free to speak here and it is a pass-time. However, a leisure time too must be constructive and rewarding, rather enjoyable - not sickening.

      God bless you all.

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        Sorry friends, I do witness a lot of time being wasted here on topics that are otherwise very crucial and thought-provoking.

        if it is a waste of time, why do you make a reply here ? do you have a disintegration of the process of thinking? .

        Someone is putting a question without a purpose and with no head or tail thereof. And all the Free Minds just flocking around the guy and chirping meaningless rhetoric endlessly. Affording superfluous importance to meaningless dogmas.

        AH!! Mr.head and tail , do you have a better question ? I doubt because your head is empty.
        the only dogmatic person I've ever seen is you .

        The guy is a shaky pot with no base to stand upon.

        well, this is you. do you have any idea about me to say that ?

        Propagating supposed concocted personalities with a lot of hear-say being ascribed to the Prophet. Claiming to be a Hadith follower. A follower of "Cat" (Abu Huraira) and "Dog". A Mushrik.

        Congratulation, you have just make a sin calling a Mushrik, by the way do you what does this word means?
        ah one more thing Cat can make severe wounds in your face and Dog can bite, so be careful.

        As the following that is prescribed is just of the Book and the Rasool. Not of those who "report" through generations and sources, what Rasool had said two and a half centuries back. What Rasool said or done, was Quran wholly and solely, as he was bound to act acc. to nothing but Quran.

        Can you explain how the Rassol Salla Laho Alayhe Wa-salam was thei sayings and their deeds from Quran ?

        And Quran is "Detailed, authoritative and narrates all that is needed for guidance".

        do you know where Quran is detailed ?

        Don't play in the hands of a Mushrik's speculative verbiage. I am sorry for this label but it is just in reciprocation of his identical labelling.

        well, you play in the hands of Satan .

        Of course everyone is free to speak here and it is a pass-time. However, a leisure time too must be constructive and rewarding, rather enjoyable - not sickening.
        God bless you all.

        No, you're not free in insulting people, if it is free, I'm sure I'll be your worst nightmares (you'll see my second face).

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          Ayisha
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          one wonders if this guy is for real, threats, insults, rudeness, assumptions on a daily basis o

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            one wonders if this guy is for real, threats, insults, rudeness, assumptions on a daily basis o

            haha, that wa sn't funny>> you want just to see my posts as rude ones, look at what he said " eye for an eye" .

            he insults me, so I must defend and the better thing is attack.

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              he insults me, so I must defend and the better thing is attack.

              ah one more thing Cat can make severe wounds in your face and Dog can bite, so be careful.

              I'm sure I'll be your worst nightmares (you'll see my second face).

              Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend.
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              And the servants of the Almighty who walk on the Earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they Say "Peace."
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              Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 83
              Narrated Abu Huraira

              The Prophet said, "Whoever does not give up false statements (i.e. telling lies), and evil deeds, and speaking bad words to others, Allah is not in need of his (fasting) leaving his food and drink."

              Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 85
              Narrated Ibn Mas'ud

              Once Allah's Apostle divided and distributed (the war booty). An Ansar man said, "By Allah ! Muhammad, by this distribution, did not intend to please Allah." So I came to Allah's Apostle and informed him about it whereupon his face became changed with anger and he said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on Moses for he was hurt with more than this, yet he remained patient."

              Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 70
              Narrated 'Abdullah

              Allah's Apostle said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (i.e., an evil-doing), and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)."

              Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 42
              Narrated Jarir bin 'Abdullah

              The Prophet said, "He who is not merciful to others, will not be treated mercifully.

              Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 73
              Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak

              (who was one of the companions who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet underneath the tree (Al-Hudaibiya)) Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever swears by a religion other than Islam (i.e. if somebody swears by saying that he is a non-Muslim e.g., a Jew or a Christian, etc.) in case he is telling a lie, he is really so if his oath is false, and a person is not bound to fulfill a vow about a thing which he does not possess. And if somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection; And if somebody curses a believer, then his sin will be as if he murdered him; And whoever accuses a believer of Kufr (disbelief), then it is as if he killed him."

              Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 135
              Narrated Abu Huraira

              Allah's Apostle said, "The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by his strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger."

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                Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend.
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                he called me a Mushrik, how I must respond him ? .

                and by the way don't give an advice, you can't even bind in it as well.

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                  Ayisha
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                  he called me a Mushrik, how I must respond him ? .
                  If you read leynas post you will see how to respond

                  and by the way don't give an advice, you can't even bind in it as well.

                  what does this mean?

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                    If you read leynas post you will see how to respond

                    I've read it, and sorry I want my own response "eye for eye"

                    what does this mean?

                    that means if she can give advice, she must use them as well.

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                      can I know the reason of "the 3 ;D" ?

                      Because I don't believe for a second that you are from Morocco. ;D

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                        Because I don't believe for a second that you are from Morocco. ;D

                        why ? is there any specific Moroccans ? .

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                          I've read it, and sorry I want my own response "eye for eye"
                          sorry I thought you were Muslim not Christian, my apologies, thats why you ignore Quran AND hadith in how to respond properly.

                          that means if she can give advice, she must use them as well.

                          she does, I have net seen leyna use bad language, call anyone names or laugh and insult anyone for their replies, nor have I seen her make assumptions regarding what people know or dont know.

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                            sorry I thought you were Muslim not Christian, my apologies, thats why you ignore Quran AND hadith in how to respond properly.

                            Your apologies are accepted, and you can say whatever you want. the truth is right there.

                            she does, I have net seen leyna use bad language, call anyone names or laugh and insult anyone for their replies, nor have I seen her make assumptions regarding what people know or dont know.

                            Good luck for her and may God bless her .

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                              An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind group

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                                An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind group

                                I was thinking of this quote a few minutes ago. Were you reading my mind? &

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                                  option 1

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    great minds think alike! group

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                                      aurangzaib
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                                      Sorry Moderators,

                                      I don't mind you sent my last post to trash. May be I was wrong to assume you wanted to get a riddance from a rude guy.
                                      If you are happily going along with that nonsense, it's OK for me.

                                      Good luck.

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                                        An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind group

                                        sure, if you are living in a world where every other person is a criminal!

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                                          sure, if you are living in a world where every other person is a criminal!

                                          umm.. if every person is a criminal, then who is the victim?? ???

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