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    Thereformer1
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    haha i think so

    well, no doubt, you're still thinking.

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      nsws1988
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      well, I've just explained to it the way we write it because they are not in a sentence . in Quran the word is already in a sentence.

      Not really. In many verses it is a quote. Argue with God not with me.

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        Thereformer1
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        In the Qur?an it is explained very clearly that the inspired speech of the Prophet that is the Qur?an and nothing else. Allah makes a clear distinction between the Prophet?s ordinary speech and the revelation that he recites.
        Consider that we see that Allah admonishes and corrects the Prophet in the Qur?an in several places. Here are a few examples

        I'm still trying to know what are you talking about? . Care to explain by your own opinions without verses because I think you're so confusing between the context of the thread and the context of the thread in your mind.

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          Thereformer1
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          Of course its No. 3! hail People who choose other than that are just jealous!!

          Nice answer , keep going .

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            Thereformer1
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            Assalamu aleikum,
            A would chose number 3 too and I'll do whatever you asked my prophet, after all obeying you is obeying God.

            Nice one Andreevici, keep going .

            I've heard that you're the leader of Quranists . am I right ?

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              nsws1988
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              Nice one Andreevici, keep going .

              I've heard that you're the leader of Quranists . am I right ?

              leader???? confused

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                Thereformer1
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                elhamdulillah! I will request all non-quranists to bring their friends too on this forum in order to help new members of this forum so that these quranists have less chance to misguide them. Truth Prevails!!

                Yeah, good Idea >>>>>>>>>> I'm in.

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                  nsws1988
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                  Yeaj, good Idea >>>>>>>>>> I'm in.

                  rotfl

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                    ~ When Muslims disagreed with the prophet on an issue that did not seem like part of Islamic theology, they talked directly to him as it was the case with the military advise he received during the battle of Badr given by a companion who felt the Prophet's plan was not the best. The great Prophet thought about it, and yielded to the man's opinion.
                    When a woman heard an opinion from the Prophet that she did not agree with, she told him that, and gave her opinion. He did not agree with her, so she came the following day arguing her case again, and again. The Quran documented this interesting interaction in the chapter named "The Arguing Woman" (Al-Mujadilah, Chapter 581), not to reprimand her, but to reveal that actually God agreed with her opinion, the opinion she made publicly and repetitively with the Prophet, peace be upon him.
                    ~ When a woman did not like what Omar, the second great civil leader, said during a Friday sermon, she did not keep her mouth shut. She stood up immediately, confronted him and proved her point by using a reference from the Quran. Omar, the great leader of an extensive Muslim empire, conceded with his famous statement The woman is right, Omar is wrong, reversing his opinion on the spot.

                    Yes, you're right, do you know why the woman was right ?

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                      Thereformer1
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                      leader???? confused

                      Yes, I've read a reply from a member here in free-mind and he were talking to Adrevicci saying to him "good luck in defending Quranists or something like that"

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                        Thereformer1
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                        What's a humb? confused

                        And yeah.. when you said it's asalamu alaykum and not salamun alaykum, that was one of your mistakes. i already gave you one of the verses.

                        hahah I said salamun Alykom in the sentence and Assalamo Alykom alone without being in any sentence. what a joke , you want to show how to spell things Yet you're not even speak a word in arabic .

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                          Andreevici
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                          Yes, I've read a reply from a member here in free-mind and he were talking to Adrevicci saying to him "good luck in defending Quranists or something like that"

                          I'm the leader of no one but i stand up anytime, anywhere for my beliefs and my brothers even shia and sunna..

                          Peace be upon you.

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                            nsws1988
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                            hahah I said salamun Alykom in the sentence and Assalamo Alykom alone without being in any sentence. what a joke , you want to show how to spell things Yet you're not even speak a word in arabic .

                            rotfl I can actually. You don't even know me so the joke's on you.
                            And we're talking about classical Arabic here, not modern. In modern Arabic, people say assalamu alaykum but in the Quran it's different because classical Arabic was spoken then. The language evolved just like any other langauge.

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                              zulu12
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                              Dear nsws1988

                              The Quran uses different variations of words in order to describe peace. i.e. Salaamun, Salaama, Salaamin, Salaamu etc etc plus totally different words as well Sakeena, Waaslaha etc. There is more than one way to say peace in Quranic Arabic.

                              I wouldn't call modern spoken Arabic an evolution of the Quranic Arabic because the Grammar of the Quranic Arabic is so high that Modern Arabic is taken from it and not the other way round. It might be easier to say that people don't talk the Quranic Arabic anymore but a dialect or slang version. A bit like old English and modern day English if you like.

                              Peace

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                                Bobo
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                                ah we say As-salamo Alaykom not salamun Alaikom

                                He shows respect and you correct him? Although he didn't even really misspell anything - I mean we can say whatever we want as long as the other person understands, especially anyone who's native language is not arabic.
                                Douche.

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                                  amin
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                                  Greetings reformer,

                                  my answer depends on the instruction from Mohammed
                                  If it contradicts the Quranic messages or against those, I will ask why,
                                  If it is something not related to Quranic messages and I think if its good for me I will accept or if i feel its not good for me then I will explain my case,

                                  So my Question, what do you think Mohammed would have done if asked him "why" or explained my my case?

                                  1.He would have killed/punished me?like what your Shariah do.
                                  2.He would have answered me, explained me?
                                  3.He would have asked for God to guide Him and gave a Quranic message thats answers me.?
                                  4.Anything else?

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    Mazhar >>>> the only advice that I can give for you is read Quran and don't just put it somewhere .

                                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/2.121r.gif
                                    Those to whom We have given the Book they recite/study it, word by word, in the manner as is its right of study/recitation that nothing interferes/comes in between the words of the Book and the heart/brain of the reciter/reader;
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                                    they are the ones that accept/believe-will accept/believe in the Book ;

                                    Shaitaan does not like that attention of people be brought to the Grand Qur'aan. He wants that people should listen to his fascinating and colourful gossip. Everyone who poses conjectural questions attributing it the Last Messenger is but Shaitaan whatever title he may adopt, Shaitaan also thinks "I am better" but tells people he is reformer and well wisher of Adam.

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                                      abdalquran
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                                      My question is so simple but the answer is not as simple as you think

                                      If you were in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him, and he said to you don't do this thing and do this particular thing and it's not existing in Qur'an, what will be your answer ?

                                      If the Prophet told me to do something in his capacity of the movement leader, I will do it UNLESS it goes against Quran. If someone leaves islam and the Prophet 'kill him please', I will say 'sorry, Quran says no compulsion. don't disobey God please, ya Prophet'.

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                                        hope4
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                                        My question is so simple but the answer is not as simple as you think

                                        If you were in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him, and he said to you don't do this thing and do this particular thing and it's not existing in Qur'an, what will be your answer ?

                                        1- I'll not do it because Quran that was revealed to you didn't mention this particular thing.

                                        2- Can I know why .

                                        3- I'll do whatever you asked my prophet, after all obeying you is obeying God.

                                        And there is a possibility for the fourth answer from you guys with justification.

                                        Selam

                                        Your question is a hypothetical one. The true answer is unless you are in that situation you really do not know what you will do. As the prophet is no longer with us, the question should be what do we follow now?

                                        Peace

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          My question is so simple but the answer is not as simple as you think

                                          If you were in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him, and he said to you don't do this thing and do this particular thing and it's not existing in Qur'an, what will be your answer ?

                                          1- I'll not do it because Quran that was revealed to you didn't mention this particular thing.

                                          2- Can I know why .

                                          3- I'll do whatever you asked my prophet, after all obeying you is obeying God.

                                          And there is a possibility for the fourth answer from you guys with justification.

                                          I choose one

                                          Muhammed was forbidden from revealing anything other than the koran

                                          Say I follow only that which is inspired in me from my Sustainer. This (Qur'an) is insight from your Sustainer, and a guidance and a mercy for a people that believe. And when the Qur'an is recited, give ear to it and pay heed, that you may obtain mercy.?
                                          (7203-204)

                                          ah we say As-salamo Alaykom not salamun Alaikom

                                          Stop criticizing people for their typing mistakes. I have seen a lot of grammatical errors in your posts. Should I start critisizing you for your mistakes?

                                          Of course its No. 3! hail People who choose other than that are just jealous!!

                                          rotfl rotfl

                                          Nice one Andreevici, keep going .

                                          I've heard that you're the leader of Quranists . am I right ?

                                          yeah >D >D He dines with the devil. >D

                                          rotfl I can actually. You don't even know me so the joke's on you.
                                          And we're talking about classical Arabic here, not modern. In modern Arabic, people say assalamu alaykum but in the Quran it's different because classical Arabic was spoken then. The language evolved just like any other langauge.

                                          bravo bravo

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