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2144
We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do.
2217
They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say "Fighting therein is a grave (offence);
why do you think?
Peace, because of this.
Badar
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2144
We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do.
2217
They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say "Fighting therein is a grave (offence);
Peace, because of this.
Badar
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They people ask you about instructions regarding engaging in war in the sacred month. Tell them, "It is a serious thing,
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.02.D.204.%20P.htmThere was not a single man when our Universe was created and its system were set in motion. About months, system was put in like this
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Certainly the count/number of months from Allah is twelve months in the Book of Allah from the Day He created the Skies and the Earth.
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That is good. I wanted it. On the main issue you also consider that nothing is abrogated nor is cancelled. And even here nothing got changed, two possibilities-parameters are given, since it begins with the advice to urge believers and information is given with a conditional particle.
Yes, Good >> you got my point . God just has been merciful with him and he knew that they do whatever he asked them because they also knew that God in their side, so God decreased his order and by this way there is no cancel, no abrogate. but I prefer to say that he"God" changed his first order which is still valid after all just to show us (the new generation that God is merciful and we must not get frustated ).
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Yes, Good >> you got my point . God just has been merciful with him and he knew that they do whatever he asked them because they also knew that God in their side, so God decreased his order and by this way there is no cancel, no abrogate. but I prefer to say that he"God" changed his first order which is still valid after all just to show us (the new generation that God is merciful and we must not get frustated ).
If something is 'changed' from one thing to another then the previous is not valid. I think the point here is that there were 2 'points' the second not changing the first but adding another perameter to it. Change would refer to cancelling or abrogating what was changed. IMHO
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If something is 'changed' from one thing to another then the previous is not valid. I think the point here is that there were 2 'points' the second not changing the first but adding another perameter to it. Change would refer to cancelling or abrogating what was changed. IMHO
No, it's still valid in another way >>> changing it from situation to another one less than the first situation that doesn't mean that it changed totally .
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http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/changed
http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/addedI don't need to know the meaning of the word "change" I already knew its meanings , I just gave you a closer word to understand what I mean .
look someone has already understood what I mean ah I think they are two members, I know that you like opposite everything I said that doesn't mean that you can't understand .
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I don't need to know the meaning of the word "change" I already knew its meanings , I just gave you a closer word to understand what I mean .
look someone has already understood what I mean ah I think they are two members, I know that you like opposite everything I said that doesn't mean that you can't understand .
wow you even correct the English language too, im impressed. If you read correctly Mazhar also said nothing has changed but a new parameter added
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wow you even correct the English language too, im impressed. If you read correctly Mazhar also said nothing has changed but a new parameter added
Yes, he is right nothing changed . that's what I mean but it changes in a different way (decreasing the first). I can't describe a good word in english even a native speaker of english will not find a good word to describe what I mean.
change but not change >>>>> the Arabic is "" another unique word in arabic and especially in religion it means something else .
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Yes, he is right nothing changed . that's what I mean but it changes in a different way (decreasing the first). I can't describe a good word in english even a native speaker of english will not find a good word to describe what I mean.
change but not change >>>>> the Arabic is "" another unique word in arabic and especially in religion it means something else .
the word is 'added' not 'change'. It doesnt change (even in a different way) the meaning of the first part it adds to it, it does not decrease the first.
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the word is 'added' not 'change'. It doesnt change (even in a different way) the meaning of the first part it adds to it, it does not decrease the first.
well, you shouldn't talk about something you don't know anything about it . there is points in the verse show that there is a change, so stop pretending that you know .
change is "" not "" >> you don't know these things so stop putting yourself on shame .
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Yes, he is right nothing changed . that's what I mean but it changes in a different way (decreasing the first). I can't describe a good word in english even a native speaker of english will not find a good word to describe what I mean.
change but not change >>>>> the Arabic is "" another unique word in arabic and especially in religion it means something else .
Write it in your native language. We will get it translated in good English. Don't worry about that.
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Write it in your native language. We will get it translated in good English. Don't worry about that.
aha, says who ?
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well, you shouldn't talk about something you don't know anything about it . there is points in the verse show that there is a change, so stop pretending that you know .
change is "" not "" >> you don't know these things so stop putting yourself on shame .
If you find it difficult describing your perception of "points in the verse", put that in your native language, we will get it translated to understand what is there in your brain.
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Peace
It seems that this discussion has moved away from what I intended. My posts are reproduced in the hope that we can discuss it.
Peace All
Can one root in Arabic have a meaning & then have a meaning that is opposite to it? (Even if the word is a derivative of the original root).
Imraan
Peace
Thanks for the responses.
One of the reasons for my question is because I am currently studying the supposed concept of abrogation in Quran.
We find that the derivatives of "nasakha" that appear in 2106 & 2252 are usually understood in the vein of abrogation, cancellation, etc.
In 7154 & 4529, we find that the derivatives of "nasakha" are understood in the vein of something written down or preserved.
This poses a problem because canceling or annulling something is quite the opposite of preserving it.
I don't accept "nasakha" as abrogation, but would like some input on any other concepts that present themselves as contradictory in the way they are usually translated because I feel that they need to be dealt with. We must take up the challenge of any apparent contradictions in the Quran if we are truly seeking the truth.
Imraan
To clarify, I would like to know if there are any other instances in the Quran where words derived from the same root give opposite meanings. I am aware that the opposite meanings from same root are found in the lexicons. We cannot accept the lexicons blindly though as they are open to manipulation. It just seems to me that such a situation cannot prevail in Quranic usage of words.
If there are certain forms of verbs that indicate the opposite of its root, I would like to know as I am not aware of any.
Imraan
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Peace,
It seems that this discussion has moved away from what I intended. My posts are reproduced in the hope that we can discuss it.
To clarify, I would like to know if there are any other instances in the Quran where words derived from the same root give opposite meanings. I am aware that the opposite meanings from same root are found in the lexicons. We cannot accept the lexicons blindly though as they are open to manipulation. It just seems to me that such a situation cannot prevail in Quranic usage of words.
If there are certain forms of verbs that indicate the opposite of its root, I would like to know as I am not aware of any.
Imraan
Browse Root which the meaning toggles to opposites defeat/victory and as always use cross-reference and context for best meaning; example...The Romans
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If you find it difficult describing your perception of "points in the verse", put that in your native language, we will get it translated to understand what is there in your brain.
what difficulties ? I'm a native speaker of Arabic. I can speak Arabic in the forum but I think it is not allowed because the forum is an english .
ok >>>> take this and we will see your translation .
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so go translate and let's see your best words in english.
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why would Arabic be 'not allowed' when Quran, the Book we follow here, is in Arabic? ???
so, it's ok to speak Arabic here ?????? I must ask the mod not you.