off topic from Re: The 5 stages of a Muslim turning Quran Aloner
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now where was that verse about suspicions??
don't try to change the topic dear sister, you can't avoid defeat, its quite clear!
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don't try to change the topic dear sister, you can't avoid defeat, its quite clear!
brother dear, you changed to topic by being suspicious of another posters intentions, I was just reminding you of the verse, im sure you know it.
i will never be defeated jedi
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i will never be defeated jedi
estaghfirullah
Only God is Invincible! He can't be defeated.
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well how about being clever and posting this specific word for us to look at? or is that a secret too  
hummmmmmm, I was trying not to give you the clue but I've said "forget the problems".
Anayways >>> the verse
006.116 Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie.
( " (116
the word in arabic is "" this is the present tense of the verb "" and the adjective of a person is " " so in arabic the person who called "" which means the person who leads people away from the right path or the person who leads people from the road for example. so basically the people have been mentioned and they are the people who they lead others from the right path and God knows.
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hummmmmmm, I was trying not to give you the clue but I've said "forget the problems".
Anayways >>> the verse
006.116 Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie.
( " (116
the word in arabic is "" this is the present tense of the verb "" and the adjective of a person is " " so in arabic the person who called "" which means the person who leads people away from the right path or the person who leads people from the road for example. so basically the people have been mentioned and they are the people who they lead others from the right path and God knows.
so its as I said anyway and says nothing about people of the book as you implied. There are also many who lead people away from the path by adding hadith of Muhammed when the BEST hadith and the ONLY hadith to follow is Allah's Hadith as it states clearly in Quran!
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so its as I said anyway and says nothing about people of the book as you implied. There are also many who lead people away from the path by adding hadith of Muhammed when the BEST hadith and the ONLY hadith to follow is Allah's Hadith as it states clearly in Quran!
dear sister, when Allah himself says if you obey prophet you obey Me, then why you see them differently ??
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so its as I said anyway and says nothing about people of the book as you implied. There are also many who lead people away from the path by adding hadith of Muhammed when the BEST hadith and the ONLY hadith to follow is Allah's Hadith as it states clearly in Quran!
I was sure that you will say this blah blah blah about hadith, the people who lead the others away from the right path are people don't want from someone to be ok in his life or in his afterlife, for the hadith I think most of it IS talking about the path the right one and there are lots of things in it in Quran and things will lead people to the right path.
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The prophet isnt here, Allah's Words are. Muhammed obeyed Allah, I obey Allah.
dear sister, our Imam says that even studying quran people can go astray. don't you know the verse
Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; but those who reject Faith say "What means Allah by this similitude?" By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path)
so the best way is to follow the path of those who are knowledgeable as advised
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I was sure that you will say this blah blah blah about hadith, the people who lead the others away from the right path are people don't want from someone to be ok in his life or in his afterlife, for the hadith I think most of it IS talking about the path the right one and there are lots of things in it in Quran and things will lead people to the right path.
Yes Quran will lead to the right path, hadith wont though. there may be lots of things in hadith that are in Quran and IF they were from Muhammed then so there should be, but sadly there are things in hadith NOT in Quran. God didnt give these rules in hadith, God gave us a complete perfect QURAN. Anything outside of that DOES lead off the path of God.
Anyway I wasnt talking about hadith, I was discussing this verse which I was accused of interpreting to my desires when the words are clear, and both you and hamsa have both interpretted it to your desires even stating there was some words in the Arabic that said it was people of the book when it doesnt say that at all.
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dear sister, our Imam says that even studying quran people can go astray. don't you know the verse
Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; but those who reject Faith say "What means Allah by this similitude?" By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path)
so the best way is to follow the path of those who are knowledgeable as advised
http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat10_files/10_89.gifAll respect to your imam brother but is the Quran for all or not? I have a brain, God gave me one, He tells me to use it and to think and reflect on His words, which is what I do. I dont use someone elses brain for other things so why should I in this most important thing? I read everything, but I THINK for myself.
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Yes Quran will lead to the right path, hadith wont though. there may be lots of things in hadith that are in Quran and IF they were from Muhammed then so there should be, but sadly there are things in hadith NOT in Quran. God didnt give these rules in hadith, God gave us a complete perfect QURAN. Anything outside of that DOES lead off the path of God.
Your problem is where Quran is completed ? I've said more than 6 times that he is completed in verses, no more verses.
Anyway I wasnt talking about hadith, I was discussing this verse which I was accused of interpreting to my desires when the words are clear, and both you and hamsa have both interpretted it to your desires even stating there was some words in the Arabic that said it was people of the book when it doesnt say that at all.
keep denying the facts and accusing people which are in fact accusing you for adding things (your post still there).
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God didn't give me a brian '(
don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!