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    hummmmmmm, I was trying not to give you the clue but I've said "forget the problems".

    Anayways >>> the verse

    006.116 Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture they do nothing but lie.

    ( " (116

    the word in arabic is "" this is the present tense of the verb "" and the adjective of a person is " " so in arabic the person who called "" which means the person who leads people away from the right path or the person who leads people from the road for example. so basically the people have been mentioned and they are the people who they lead others from the right path and God knows.

    so its as I said anyway and says nothing about people of the book as you implied. There are also many who lead people away from the path by adding hadith of Muhammed when the BEST hadith and the ONLY hadith to follow is Allah's Hadith as it states clearly in Quran!

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      so its as I said anyway and says nothing about people of the book as you implied. There are also many who lead people away from the path by adding hadith of Muhammed when the BEST hadith and the ONLY hadith to follow is Allah's Hadith as it states clearly in Quran!

      dear sister, when Allah himself says if you obey prophet you obey Me, then why you see them differently ??

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        dear sister, when Allah himself says if you obey prophet you obey Me, then why you see them differently ??

        The prophet isnt here, Allah's Words are. Muhammed obeyed Allah, I obey Allah.

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          so its as I said anyway and says nothing about people of the book as you implied. There are also many who lead people away from the path by adding hadith of Muhammed when the BEST hadith and the ONLY hadith to follow is Allah's Hadith as it states clearly in Quran!

          I was sure that you will say this blah blah blah about hadith, the people who lead the others away from the right path are people don't want from someone to be ok in his life or in his afterlife, for the hadith I think most of it IS talking about the path the right one and there are lots of things in it in Quran and things will lead people to the right path.

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            The prophet isnt here, Allah's Words are. Muhammed obeyed Allah, I obey Allah.

            dear sister, our Imam says that even studying quran people can go astray. don't you know the verse

            Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; but those who reject Faith say "What means Allah by this similitude?" By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path)

            so the best way is to follow the path of those who are knowledgeable as advised
            http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat10_files/10_89.gif

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              I was sure that you will say this blah blah blah about hadith, the people who lead the others away from the right path are people don't want from someone to be ok in his life or in his afterlife, for the hadith I think most of it IS talking about the path the right one and there are lots of things in it in Quran and things will lead people to the right path.

              Yes Quran will lead to the right path, hadith wont though. there may be lots of things in hadith that are in Quran and IF they were from Muhammed then so there should be, but sadly there are things in hadith NOT in Quran. God didnt give these rules in hadith, God gave us a complete perfect QURAN. Anything outside of that DOES lead off the path of God.

              Anyway I wasnt talking about hadith, I was discussing this verse which I was accused of interpreting to my desires when the words are clear, and both you and hamsa have both interpretted it to your desires even stating there was some words in the Arabic that said it was people of the book when it doesnt say that at all.

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                dear sister, our Imam says that even studying quran people can go astray. don't you know the verse

                Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; but those who reject Faith say "What means Allah by this similitude?" By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path)

                so the best way is to follow the path of those who are knowledgeable as advised
                http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat10_files/10_89.gif

                All respect to your imam brother but is the Quran for all or not? I have a brain, God gave me one, He tells me to use it and to think and reflect on His words, which is what I do. I dont use someone elses brain for other things so why should I in this most important thing? I read everything, but I THINK for myself.

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                  I have a brian, God gave me one

                  God didn't give me a brian '(

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                    God didn't give me a brian '(

                    bad girl! almost spat my slimming tea on my keyboard! voodoo

                    have edited -[

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                      Yes Quran will lead to the right path, hadith wont though. there may be lots of things in hadith that are in Quran and IF they were from Muhammed then so there should be, but sadly there are things in hadith NOT in Quran. God didnt give these rules in hadith, God gave us a complete perfect QURAN. Anything outside of that DOES lead off the path of God.

                      Your problem is where Quran is completed ? I've said more than 6 times that he is completed in verses, no more verses.

                      Anyway I wasnt talking about hadith, I was discussing this verse which I was accused of interpreting to my desires when the words are clear, and both you and hamsa have both interpretted it to your desires even stating there was some words in the Arabic that said it was people of the book when it doesnt say that at all.

                      keep denying the facts and accusing people which are in fact accusing you for adding things (your post still there).

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                        bad girl! almost spat my slimming tea on my keyboard! voodoo

                        have edited -[

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                          Your problem is where Quran is completed ? I've said more than 6 times that he is completed in verses, no more verses.

                          No more verses so why do you need to ADD hadith? Because you cant understand the message without them? brickwall

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                            God didn't give me a brian '(

                            don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!

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                              don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!

                              Only Brian can help me '(

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                                Only Brian can help me '(

                                you don't have a brian so you don't know whats right or what you need! just keep quite and follow us, inshaAllah!

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                                  Only Brian can help me '(

                                  Brians are brothers too, thank God for men eh, where would we be without them?

                                  in front of the TV with the remote control and NO FOOTBALL CHANNELS thats where! >D

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                                    Brians are brothers too, thank God for men eh, where would we be without them?

                                    in front of the TV with the remote control and NO FOOTBALL CHANNELS thats where! >D

                                    Not Brian. He's not like other men ❤

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                                      Not Brian. He's not like other men ❤

                                      sending you the bill for a new keyboard giveup

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                                        No more verses so why do you need to ADD hadith? Because you cant understand the message without them? brickwall

                                        there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

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                                          there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

                                          In conclusion, we don't need hadiths. bravo

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