off topic from Re: The 5 stages of a Muslim turning Quran Aloner
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I was sure that you will say this blah blah blah about hadith, the people who lead the others away from the right path are people don't want from someone to be ok in his life or in his afterlife, for the hadith I think most of it IS talking about the path the right one and there are lots of things in it in Quran and things will lead people to the right path.
Yes Quran will lead to the right path, hadith wont though. there may be lots of things in hadith that are in Quran and IF they were from Muhammed then so there should be, but sadly there are things in hadith NOT in Quran. God didnt give these rules in hadith, God gave us a complete perfect QURAN. Anything outside of that DOES lead off the path of God.
Anyway I wasnt talking about hadith, I was discussing this verse which I was accused of interpreting to my desires when the words are clear, and both you and hamsa have both interpretted it to your desires even stating there was some words in the Arabic that said it was people of the book when it doesnt say that at all.
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dear sister, our Imam says that even studying quran people can go astray. don't you know the verse
Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; but those who reject Faith say "What means Allah by this similitude?" By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path)
so the best way is to follow the path of those who are knowledgeable as advised
http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat10_files/10_89.gifAll respect to your imam brother but is the Quran for all or not? I have a brain, God gave me one, He tells me to use it and to think and reflect on His words, which is what I do. I dont use someone elses brain for other things so why should I in this most important thing? I read everything, but I THINK for myself.
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Yes Quran will lead to the right path, hadith wont though. there may be lots of things in hadith that are in Quran and IF they were from Muhammed then so there should be, but sadly there are things in hadith NOT in Quran. God didnt give these rules in hadith, God gave us a complete perfect QURAN. Anything outside of that DOES lead off the path of God.
Your problem is where Quran is completed ? I've said more than 6 times that he is completed in verses, no more verses.
Anyway I wasnt talking about hadith, I was discussing this verse which I was accused of interpreting to my desires when the words are clear, and both you and hamsa have both interpretted it to your desires even stating there was some words in the Arabic that said it was people of the book when it doesnt say that at all.
keep denying the facts and accusing people which are in fact accusing you for adding things (your post still there).
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God didn't give me a brian '(
don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!
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Only Brian can help me '(
you don't have a brian so you don't know whats right or what you need! just keep quite and follow us, inshaAllah!
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No more verses so why do you need to ADD hadith? Because you cant understand the message without them? brickwall
there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .
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Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.
Peace
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In conclusion, we don't need hadiths. bravo
that's not something new for me, and the hadith is not in need for you as well.
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there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .
This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion
The religion is perfected, that means complete, it needs no other hadith added to it.
010.037 This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.
045.006 Such are the Signs of Allah, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what exposition will they believe after (rejecting) Allah and His Signs?
I see by your manner and atitude that you dont fully believe Allah when He says it is complete, easy and perfect that you need to add other things after it. You insult Allah and you insult the prophet
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Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.
PeaceYes, you're right . I've saw that they hate us because we love our prophet and we take his words, you know why they hate us because they have never took the words of the prophet in their own religions after their conversion, and they have never loved them as Muslims do for the prophet peace be upon him Muhammad
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This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion
The religion is perfected, that means complete, it needs no other hadith added to it.
010.037 This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.
045.006 Such are the Signs of Allah, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what exposition will they believe after (rejecting) Allah and His Signs?
I see by your manner and atitude that you dont fully believe Allah when He says it is complete, easy and perfect that you need to add other things after it. You insult Allah and you insult the prophet
yes, but don't you know that Prophet said that I am going to leave you with my sunnah and quran! please think about it!
