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    Thereformer1
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    Yes Quran will lead to the right path, hadith wont though. there may be lots of things in hadith that are in Quran and IF they were from Muhammed then so there should be, but sadly there are things in hadith NOT in Quran. God didnt give these rules in hadith, God gave us a complete perfect QURAN. Anything outside of that DOES lead off the path of God.

    Your problem is where Quran is completed ? I've said more than 6 times that he is completed in verses, no more verses.

    Anyway I wasnt talking about hadith, I was discussing this verse which I was accused of interpreting to my desires when the words are clear, and both you and hamsa have both interpretted it to your desires even stating there was some words in the Arabic that said it was people of the book when it doesnt say that at all.

    keep denying the facts and accusing people which are in fact accusing you for adding things (your post still there).

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      bad girl! almost spat my slimming tea on my keyboard! voodoo

      have edited -[

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        Your problem is where Quran is completed ? I've said more than 6 times that he is completed in verses, no more verses.

        No more verses so why do you need to ADD hadith? Because you cant understand the message without them? brickwall

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          unknownuser
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          God didn't give me a brian '(

          don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!

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            nsws1988
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            don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!

            Only Brian can help me '(

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              unknownuser
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              Only Brian can help me '(

              you don't have a brian so you don't know whats right or what you need! just keep quite and follow us, inshaAllah!

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                Ayisha
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                Only Brian can help me '(

                Brians are brothers too, thank God for men eh, where would we be without them?

                in front of the TV with the remote control and NO FOOTBALL CHANNELS thats where! >D

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                  nsws1988
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                  Brians are brothers too, thank God for men eh, where would we be without them?

                  in front of the TV with the remote control and NO FOOTBALL CHANNELS thats where! >D

                  Not Brian. He's not like other men ❤

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                    Ayisha
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                    Not Brian. He's not like other men ❤

                    sending you the bill for a new keyboard giveup

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                      Thereformer1
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                      No more verses so why do you need to ADD hadith? Because you cant understand the message without them? brickwall

                      there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

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                        nsws1988
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                        there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

                        In conclusion, we don't need hadiths. bravo

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                          Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.

                          Peace

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                            Thereformer1
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                            In conclusion, we don't need hadiths. bravo

                            that's not something new for me, and the hadith is not in need for you as well.

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                              there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

                              This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion

                              The religion is perfected, that means complete, it needs no other hadith added to it.

                              010.037 This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.

                              045.006 Such are the Signs of Allah, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what exposition will they believe after (rejecting) Allah and His Signs?

                              I see by your manner and atitude that you dont fully believe Allah when He says it is complete, easy and perfect that you need to add other things after it. You insult Allah and you insult the prophet

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                                Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.
                                Peace

                                Yes, you're right . I've saw that they hate us because we love our prophet and we take his words, you know why they hate us because they have never took the words of the prophet in their own religions after their conversion, and they have never loved them as Muslims do for the prophet peace be upon him Muhammad

                                http//islam.maktoob.com/image3047_500_361/500X361.jpg

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                                  This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion

                                  The religion is perfected, that means complete, it needs no other hadith added to it.

                                  010.037 This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.

                                  045.006 Such are the Signs of Allah, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what exposition will they believe after (rejecting) Allah and His Signs?

                                  I see by your manner and atitude that you dont fully believe Allah when He says it is complete, easy and perfect that you need to add other things after it. You insult Allah and you insult the prophet

                                  yes, but don't you know that Prophet said that I am going to leave you with my sunnah and quran! please think about it!

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                                    http//www.sunna.info/souwar/data/media/43/normal_Name_59.jpg

                                    awesome! -* -*

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.
                                      Peace

                                      I have nothing but love and respect for the prophet muhammed and all other prophets, thats why I follow who they followed. When I say 'some man' I mean the men who claimed these hadith were from the prophet of God the majority of which are an insult to the prophet.
                                      The message came from God, not from the prophet, it came through him not from him. I will not worship a man whoever he may be, you can if you wish as thats your soul you sell.

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                                        yes, but don't you know that Prophet said that I am going to leave you with my sunnah and quran! please think about it!

                                        using a hadith to justify hadith? he also said dont take anything from me BUT QURAN rotfl

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                                          using a hadith to justify hadith? he also said dont take anything from me BUT QURAN rotfl

                                          but dear sister, you are trying to understand Deen according to your own desires! We should understand Deen as taught by the Prophet don't you think?

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