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    unknownuser
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    God didn't give me a brian '(

    don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!

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      don't worry sister, your brothers are here to guide you inshaAllah!

      Only Brian can help me '(

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        unknownuser
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        Only Brian can help me '(

        you don't have a brian so you don't know whats right or what you need! just keep quite and follow us, inshaAllah!

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          Ayisha
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          Only Brian can help me '(

          Brians are brothers too, thank God for men eh, where would we be without them?

          in front of the TV with the remote control and NO FOOTBALL CHANNELS thats where! >D

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            nsws1988
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            Brians are brothers too, thank God for men eh, where would we be without them?

            in front of the TV with the remote control and NO FOOTBALL CHANNELS thats where! >D

            Not Brian. He's not like other men ❤

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              Not Brian. He's not like other men ❤

              sending you the bill for a new keyboard giveup

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                No more verses so why do you need to ADD hadith? Because you cant understand the message without them? brickwall

                there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

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                  there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

                  In conclusion, we don't need hadiths. bravo

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                    Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.

                    Peace

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                      In conclusion, we don't need hadiths. bravo

                      that's not something new for me, and the hadith is not in need for you as well.

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                        there is a difference between "verse" from God and saying or quote from the prophet . Quran is completed in verses. so as I see your manner attitude is to be always against hadith and attacking it .

                        This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion

                        The religion is perfected, that means complete, it needs no other hadith added to it.

                        010.037 This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.

                        045.006 Such are the Signs of Allah, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what exposition will they believe after (rejecting) Allah and His Signs?

                        I see by your manner and atitude that you dont fully believe Allah when He says it is complete, easy and perfect that you need to add other things after it. You insult Allah and you insult the prophet

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                          Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.
                          Peace

                          Yes, you're right . I've saw that they hate us because we love our prophet and we take his words, you know why they hate us because they have never took the words of the prophet in their own religions after their conversion, and they have never loved them as Muslims do for the prophet peace be upon him Muhammad

                          http//islam.maktoob.com/image3047_500_361/500X361.jpg

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                            This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion

                            The religion is perfected, that means complete, it needs no other hadith added to it.

                            010.037 This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.

                            045.006 Such are the Signs of Allah, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what exposition will they believe after (rejecting) Allah and His Signs?

                            I see by your manner and atitude that you dont fully believe Allah when He says it is complete, easy and perfect that you need to add other things after it. You insult Allah and you insult the prophet

                            yes, but don't you know that Prophet said that I am going to leave you with my sunnah and quran! please think about it!

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                              http//www.sunna.info/souwar/data/media/43/normal_Name_59.jpg

                              awesome! -* -*

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                                Not Hadith. Against the Prophet PBUH. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Cannot you see this when she states 'some man' in her posts when talking about the Prophet PBUH. Utter contempt. They have a problem with the Prophet PBUH. Even though he came as A light and warner for ALL mankind as the Quran states, they still think he came only for his community at his time 1400 years ago, so the message is no longer relevant to them in this day and age.
                                Peace

                                I have nothing but love and respect for the prophet muhammed and all other prophets, thats why I follow who they followed. When I say 'some man' I mean the men who claimed these hadith were from the prophet of God the majority of which are an insult to the prophet.
                                The message came from God, not from the prophet, it came through him not from him. I will not worship a man whoever he may be, you can if you wish as thats your soul you sell.

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                                  yes, but don't you know that Prophet said that I am going to leave you with my sunnah and quran! please think about it!

                                  using a hadith to justify hadith? he also said dont take anything from me BUT QURAN rotfl

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                                    using a hadith to justify hadith? he also said dont take anything from me BUT QURAN rotfl

                                    but dear sister, you are trying to understand Deen according to your own desires! We should understand Deen as taught by the Prophet don't you think?

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                                      The religion is perfected, that means complete, it needs no other hadith added to it.

                                      You don't even make difference between perfect and complete , so how you'll know other things? .

                                      I see by your manner and atitude that you dont fully believe Allah when He says it is complete, easy and perfect that you need to add other things after it. You insult Allah and you insult the prophet

                                      well, hadith is not an add-on for Quran, it is the second ligeslation after ligeslation in Quran. and they are totally separated from each other (Quran is in a book and hadith is in another book).
                                      let me remind you that we believe in Quran and hadith, look at your side you believe in one thing and you might be wrong in understanding it , so after all you're the loser.
                                      one more thing " don't put words in my mouth".

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                                        but dear sister, you are trying to understand Deen according to your own desires! We should understand Deen as taught by the Prophet don't you think?

                                        The prophet taught Quran, he taught what Allah told him, not what he had in his mind. So following Quran I am seeing what he saw. Quran says not to distinguish between any of the prophets so which one should I follow? Quran says religion of Abraham so should I search for his hadith? of course not, its all in Quran.

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                                          Dear Ayisha

                                          I think you are getting your tongue in a twist. Nobody worships the Prophet PBUH. We only worship Allah SWT. Period. This is the fundamental of Tawhid.

                                          What you (PM's) don't seem to grasp is that the Prophet PBUH showed us in practice everything that we are supposed to do in the Quran and from the Quran. How to pray, how to fast, how to perform pilgrimage, how to marry, how to give in charity, how to treat the elderly , orphans, the poor and the wayfarers, how to conduct business, how to treat thy neighbour, how to distribute wealth etc etc. I have said it before and will say it again, if the Prophet PBUH had to deliver the Message in a clear and concise manner, then he had to understand every word of the Quran, both literally and physically because Allah SWT taught him, and then Prophet PBUH showed his companions, then the rest of the believers, who then showed their communities/progeny and so and so forth. If the Quran has been delivered for every Tom, Dick and Harry to interperate as they wish, then Allah SWT would never have used the Prophet PBUH to deliver the message over a 23 year period. It would have been placed on a rock in one full volume overnight, for everyone to grab, copy and interperate as they wish.

                                          Let's take your stance for the moment and say okay, let's put everything to the side. I will be grateful of your understanding of the concept of prayer and pilgrimage. How do you do it and how would you advise someone like me to do it?

                                          Peace

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