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    Ayisha
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    http//answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100404100742AAYnIE3

    What do you do if you believe you've violated quran 2235 and suggested proposal to a woman in secrecy?
    I told one female about my feelings for, now we're almost deeply in love with one another. She's afraid to tell her parents let alone I embarrassed to tell mine. As we both have had parents aggressively disagree on previous affections with other people. The verse makes it clear that I am to openly propose, not come to her in secrecy.

    What do I do. Because every now and then we end up experiencing quran 3140 every other day literally.

    "If misfortune touches you, similar misfortune has touched people as well; for it is by turns that We apportion unto men such days and to the end that the god might mark out those who have attained to faith, and choose from among you such as bear witness to the truth - since the god does not love evildoers - "

    The verses are discussing making a secret contract. It says there is no blame on you for making a betrothal but a secret contract is wrong, like in marrying in secret or engaging in secret. You have said to the girl in question you want to marry her, I see no wrong on that even according to the verses. Being in love is not evil. ???

    you should both tell your parents though and it is not wrong to marry someone you love, what is wrong is being forced to marry someone you dont want.

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      nsws1988
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      Peace

      First, I am sorry about your situation and I hope God will make things easier for you.

      I understood the verses the same as Ayisha has. So it should be ok to propose to her and tell her that you wish to marry her.
      I also want to ask whether this verse talks about widows or all women?

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        The verses are discussing making a secret contract. It says there is no blame on you for making a betrothal but a secret contract is wrong, like in marrying in secret or engaging in secret. You have said to the girl in question you want to marry her, I see no wrong on that even according to the verses. Being in love is not evil. ???
        you should both tell your parents though and it is not wrong to marry someone you love, what is wrong is being forced to marry someone you dont want.

        Oh My God !! you better ask forgiveness.

        this is for the woman that his man died and she still in the period which is 40 days and 10 days .

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          Oh My God !! you better ask forgiveness.

          this is for the woman that his man died and she still in the period which is 40 days and 10 days .

          What is wrong about what she said?

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            Ayisha
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            Oh My God !! you better ask forgiveness.

            this is for the woman that his man died and she still in the period which is 40 days and 10 days .

            that answers your other question nsws1988

            no probs FAR you did nothing wrong

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              What is wrong about what she said?

              the guy is with a girl without a legal contract with witness in this contract and even he said that he touched her and there she came Miss.Fatwa to say there is no wrong with that it is love and interpret the verse for all woman. is that ok for you? .

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                the guy is with a girl without a legal contract with witness in this contract and even he said that he touched her and there she came Miss.Fatwa to say there is no wrong with that it is love and interpret the verse for all woman. is that ok for you? .

                PLEASE read correctly what was written before you make responses like that and make accusations on someone for NO REASON but your own misunderstanding!

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                  the guy is with a girl without a legal contract with witness in this contract and even he said that he touched her and there she came Miss.Fatwa to say there is no wrong with that it is love and interpret the verse for all woman. is that ok for you? .

                  Read the verse properly. It says that you can meet.
                  He never said that he touched her so don't make false accusations.

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                    PLEASE read correctly what was written before you make responses like that and make accusations on someone for NO REASON but your own misunderstanding!

                    but it is still showing your evil soul interpreting the verse for all woman >>> this is for the woman who died her husband . I assume that he touched her because if not what he is doing with her (touching can be by holding hands for a long time).

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                      Read the verse properly. It says that you can meet.
                      He never said that he touched her so don't make false accusations.

                      well, I will not believe him if he didn't say that he didn't touch her, he is meeting her , he is touching her >> you misunderstood the term touching holding his hands as a symbol of love is touching.

                      and the second thing that you have avoid is she interpreted the verse for all woman even the free one.

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                        Can we get back to the subject please. FAR has given us all the information we need for the discussion. So no more assumptions!

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                          Can we get back to the subject please. FAR has given us all the information we need for the discussion. So no more assumptions!

                          he already made a mistake, and she (the girls) also made the same mistake, so he must ask forgiveness and she must do it too, and then he tell his parents that he wants a girl , then they will visit the parents of the girl and they will propose marriage to her and she will accept and then thing fixed that if this marriage succeed.

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                            but it is still showing your evil soul interpreting the verse for all woman >>> this is for the woman who died her husband . I assume that he touched her because if not what he is doing with her (touching can be by holding hands for a long time).

                            well, I will not believe him if he didn't say that he didn't touch her, he is meeting her , he is touching her >> you misunderstood the term touching holding his hands as a symbol of love is touching.

                            and the second thing that you have avoid is she interpreted the verse for all woman even the free one.

                            How dare you! READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN

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                              he already made a mistake, and she (the girls) also made the same mistake, so he must ask forgiveness and she must do it too, and then he tell his parents that he wants a girl , then they will visit the parents of the girl and they will propose marriage to her and she will accept and then thing fixed that if this marriage succeed.

                              you are seriously going too far

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                                he already made a mistake, and she (the girls) also made the same mistake, so he must ask forgiveness and she must do it too, and then he tell his parents that he wants a girl , then they will visit the parents of the girl and they will propose marriage to her and she will accept and then thing fixed that if this marriage succeed.

                                is this procedure given in any hadith brother?

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                                  How dare you! READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN

                                  I think you didn't read this par about touching

                                  (touching can be by holding hands for a long time).

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                                    I think you didn't read this par about touching

                                    (touching can be by holding hands for a long time).

                                    I know what touching is and I will say again, READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN, there was NO touching there not even holding hands.

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                                      I know what touching is and I will say again, READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN, there was NO touching there not even holding hands.

                                      can't you just imagine for a sec!

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                                        is this procedure given in any hadith brother?

                                        No, but he can ask and he will get the same answer from someone else know Islam very well. this is my opinion to fix his mess and it is according to me the right thing because I've put myself in his situation and I've said what I will do as a Muslim in this situation.

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                                          can't you just imagine for a sec!

                                          well thereformer certainly can imagine this, thank God I dont have a mind like his!

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