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Asking a woman in secrecy

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    Thereformer1
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    Read the verse properly. It says that you can meet.
    He never said that he touched her so don't make false accusations.

    well, I will not believe him if he didn't say that he didn't touch her, he is meeting her , he is touching her >> you misunderstood the term touching holding his hands as a symbol of love is touching.

    and the second thing that you have avoid is she interpreted the verse for all woman even the free one.

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      nsws1988
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      Can we get back to the subject please. FAR has given us all the information we need for the discussion. So no more assumptions!

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        Thereformer1
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        Can we get back to the subject please. FAR has given us all the information we need for the discussion. So no more assumptions!

        he already made a mistake, and she (the girls) also made the same mistake, so he must ask forgiveness and she must do it too, and then he tell his parents that he wants a girl , then they will visit the parents of the girl and they will propose marriage to her and she will accept and then thing fixed that if this marriage succeed.

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          Ayisha
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          but it is still showing your evil soul interpreting the verse for all woman >>> this is for the woman who died her husband . I assume that he touched her because if not what he is doing with her (touching can be by holding hands for a long time).

          well, I will not believe him if he didn't say that he didn't touch her, he is meeting her , he is touching her >> you misunderstood the term touching holding his hands as a symbol of love is touching.

          and the second thing that you have avoid is she interpreted the verse for all woman even the free one.

          How dare you! READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN

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            Ayisha
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            he already made a mistake, and she (the girls) also made the same mistake, so he must ask forgiveness and she must do it too, and then he tell his parents that he wants a girl , then they will visit the parents of the girl and they will propose marriage to her and she will accept and then thing fixed that if this marriage succeed.

            you are seriously going too far

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              unknownuser
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              he already made a mistake, and she (the girls) also made the same mistake, so he must ask forgiveness and she must do it too, and then he tell his parents that he wants a girl , then they will visit the parents of the girl and they will propose marriage to her and she will accept and then thing fixed that if this marriage succeed.

              is this procedure given in any hadith brother?

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                Thereformer1
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                How dare you! READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN

                I think you didn't read this par about touching

                (touching can be by holding hands for a long time).

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                  Ayisha
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                  I think you didn't read this par about touching

                  (touching can be by holding hands for a long time).

                  I know what touching is and I will say again, READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN, there was NO touching there not even holding hands.

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                    unknownuser
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                    I know what touching is and I will say again, READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN, there was NO touching there not even holding hands.

                    can't you just imagine for a sec!

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                      Thereformer1
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                      is this procedure given in any hadith brother?

                      No, but he can ask and he will get the same answer from someone else know Islam very well. this is my opinion to fix his mess and it is according to me the right thing because I've put myself in his situation and I've said what I will do as a Muslim in this situation.

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                        Ayisha
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                        can't you just imagine for a sec!

                        well thereformer certainly can imagine this, thank God I dont have a mind like his!

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                          Ayisha
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                          No, but he can ask and he will get the same answer from someone alse know Islam very well. this is my opinion to fix his mess and it is according to me the right thing because I've put myself in his situation and I've said what I will do as a Muslim.

                          ahh an interpretation and based on YOUR desires.

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                            Thereformer1
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                            well thereformer certainly can imagine this, thank God I dont have a mind like his!

                            Yeah, you must thank God .

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                              unknownuser
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                              No, but he can ask and he will get the same answer from someone else know Islam very well. this is my opinion to fix his mess and it is according to me the right thing because I've put myself in his situation and I've said what I will do as a Muslim in this situation.

                              ah, fair enough brother.. peace

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                                zulu12
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                                Why bother get involved into giving advice here?

                                Surely, he must have other places to go for advice within his family, friends, community etc, and if not, why come on this Forum and ask? You cannot be that lonely surely.

                                They both seem to be as bad as each other by not telling the parents.

                                Anyway, why create such an issue, get married to the girl. Period. Or does he want the blessings and go ahead from Free Minds because everyone else has lost their way? ;D

                                Peace

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                                  Thereformer1
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                                  ahh an interpretation and based on YOUR desires.

                                  well, I don't know where do you come from and where did you take your lessons in english ?

                                  is there any verse I interpret ? there is a difference between giving your opinion about what you have studied and interpret a verse . strange .

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                                    nsws1988
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                                    Why bother get involved into giving advice here?

                                    Surely, he must have other places to go for advice within his family, friends, community etc, and if not, why come on this Forum and ask? You cannot be that lonely surely.

                                    They both seem to be as bad as each other by not telling the parents.

                                    Anyway, why create such an issue, get married to the girl. Period. Or does he want the blessings and go ahead from Free Minds because everyone else has lost their way? ;D

                                    Peace

                                    Peace

                                    He already mentioned why he's having problems telling his parents.
                                    If he wants advice or just to discuss the issue, he's welcome anytime.

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      well, I don't know where do you come from and where did you take your lessons in english ?
                                      I am English and from England

                                      is there any verse I interpret ? there is a difference between giving your opinion about what you have studied and interpret a verse . strange .

                                      only when its you giving the opinion, when its anyone else its wrong

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        I am English and from England

                                        rotfl

                                        doesn't mean you don't need english lessons! P

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                                          Ayisha
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                                          Surely, he must have other places to go for advice within his family, friends, community etc, and if not, why come on this Forum and ask? You cannot be that lonely surely.

                                          as lonely as you, me and the rest of the posters here? (

                                          Im with nsws1988, he can ask for advice, moan, write his thoughs, whatever hes welcome.

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