Surah 75:27
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Anything the evidence of which cannot be produced from Grand Qur'aan and then someone attributes his gossip to big names that one is the worst gossip monger, guilty of falsification plus attributing it to big names to give weight to the falsity.
I've said I'm Arab, yet you're asking for a substandiated .
I've said that I've looked for it in "Ibn Abbass" the best interpreters of Quran, yet you're saying that he is guilty .
Are you with a mental disease ? . Let me remind you that every word in your translation in your website is wrong. and one more thing you shouldn't translate Quran word by word.
You're not Arab and you jump giving false statements, you gave interpretation from your own understandings and your own desires and you can't even differ between two words have the same letters. please give it a break. I've had enough of your posts and you will mislead people with you .
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I've said I'm Arab, yet you're asking for a substandiated .
I've said that I've looked for it in "Ibn Abbass" the best interpreters of Quran, yet you're saying that he is guilty .
Are you with a mental disease ? . Let me remind you that every word in your translation in your website is wrong. and one more thing you shouldn't translate Quran word by word.
You're not Arab and you jump giving false statements, you gave interpretation from your own understandings and your own desires and you can't even differ between two words have the same letters. please give it a break. I've had enough of your posts and you will mislead people with you .
What is attributed to Ibn Abbas as his tafsir, even that says like this
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(And men say) and those around it among his family and others say (Where is the wizard (who can save him now)?) Is there any physician who can cure him? It is also said this means the angels say to one another who will rise with his soul to Allah? -
What is attributed to Ibn Abbas as his tafsir, even that says like this
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(And men say) and those around it among his family and others say (Where is the wizard (who can save him now)?) Is there any physician who can cure him? It is also said this means the angels say to one another who will rise with his soul to Allah?I've gave you the word from an arabic view because the word is also used in Arabic known that Quran has been written in Arabic, so the word means "ascender" and the one who ascends the soul is the angel, typically they are angels and they divide into two teams, the angels of Mercy and the angels of punishment, so they both arguing about what team should rise with his soul(the person that died). you didn't like this, fine but don't request a proof because this is not science .
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Proof, please.
I'll cite one example because they are a lot
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who physically follow that Messenger who is the Chosen and Elevated from amongst those who were not given the Book earlier. That Chosen and Elevated about whom they find mentioned in writing with them in the Tor'aat and the In'jeel.look at the verse in Arabic word by word . what does he means by "physically follow"? there is no physically in the verse.
second thing he said "that the Messenger who is Chosen and Elevated from amongst those were not giving the book earlier." where the hell he found these things and who told him about that, let's take a look about the real verse in Arabic "( )" here it is the real meaning, Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e. Muhammad م whom they find written with them in the Taur?t (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) . where he found the words "chosen and Elevated" there no indication of these words in Arabic, so he distorted Quran and he will mislead people with him. -
I've gave you the word from an arabic view because the word is also used in Arabic known that Quran has been written in Arabic, so the word means "ascender" and the one who ascends the soul is the angel, typically they are angels and they divide into two teams, the angels of Mercy and the angels of punishment, so they both arguing about what team should rise with his soul(the person that died). you didn't like this, fine but don't request a proof because this is not science .
What is the matter? Why sudden twists like the people on the dancing floow? A little while ago you said Ibn Abbas said this and now "I've gave you the word from an arabic view".
And how stupid is the assertion to think that Angels, comprising of performers of opposite jobs Mercy and Punishment, were discussing by the side of a dying man and the dying man also listened and understood what they were talking whereby he thought it is the time of departure.
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What is the matter? Why sudden twists like the people on the dancing floow? A little while ago you said Ibn Abbas said this and now "I've gave you the word from an arabic view".
I never changed what I said, what Ibn Abbass said is already written by me in the post. Then after that I wrote just before "the word and its meaning in Arabic ". so I gave you both translations (one from Arabic view and one from IBn Abbass). Read my posts . one is an Arabic view of the word, one is what Ibn Abbass said .
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And what about this stupidity
And how stupid is the assertion to think that Angels, comprising of performers of opposite jobs Mercy and Punishment, were discussing by the side of a dying man and the dying man also listened and understood what they were talking whereby he thought it is the time of departure.
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typically they are angels and they divide into two teams, the angels of Mercy and the angels of punishment, so they both arguing about what team should rise with his soul(the person that died). you didn't like this, fine but don't request a proof because this is not science .
I would have thought that decision was for only Allah to decide, not for angels to be arguing over.
The word 'cry' in the context written here means to shout or proclaim, not to cry as in tears.
OT Regarding the translation of 7157 I completely agree that is a mistranslation of the verse. It elevates the prophet Muhammed in a way numerous verse tell you not to. Saying 'physically' follow is only adding to the will of the hadith followers and claiming he should be physically followed in how he dressed, spoke and used the bathroom, again numerous verses of Quran disagree on that. Saying 'those who were not given the book earlier' is also ignoring the verses that Allah tells you He sent THEM part of the Book too. Sorry but in my opinion it greatly distorts the verse and consequently distors many others. peace
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I would have thought that decision was for only Allah to decide, not for angels to be arguing over.
Yes, you're right the decision is from God but because Angels didn't know the last deeds of the person that died, that's why they arguied and they always do about who is going to rise with his soul are they the angels of the punishment or are they the angels of Mercy, so when they knew the last deeds of the person one of the team rise with his soul.
The word 'cry' in the context written here means to shout or proclaim, not to cry as in tears.
Yes, I know that they mean by cry shout or yell but the problem there no shout in the verse neither yell or cry as they translated it.
OT Regarding the translation of 7157 I completely agree that is a mistranslation of the verse. It elevates the prophet Muhammed in a way numerous verse tell you not to. Saying 'physically' follow is only adding to the will of the hadith followers and claiming he should be physically followed in how he dressed, spoke and used the bathroom, again numerous verses of Quran disagree on that. Saying 'those who were not given the book earlier' is also ignoring the verses that Allah tells you He sent THEM part of the Book too. Sorry but in my opinion it greatly distorts the verse and consequently distors many others. peace
oh Al-Hamdo-lilah, you agreed with what I said. now you believe me that this person Mazhar is using hadith in his interpretations and distorted the verses, let alone adding things.
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I'll cite one example because they are a lot
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who physically follow that Messenger who is the Chosen and Elevated from amongst those who were not given the Book earlier. That Chosen and Elevated about whom they find mentioned in writing with them in the Tor'aat and the In'jeel.look at the verse in Arabic word by word . what does he means by "physically follow"? there is no physically in the verse.
second thing he said "that the Messenger who is Chosen and Elevated from amongst those were not giving the book earlier." where the hell he found these things and who told him about that, let's take a look about the real verse in Arabic "( )" here it is the real meaning, Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e. Muhammad م whom they find written with them in the Taur?t (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) . where he found the words "chosen and Elevated" there no indication of these words in Arabic, so he distorted Quran and he will mislead people with him.Ayesha OT Regarding the translation of 7157 I completely agree that is a mistranslation of the verse. It elevates the prophet Muhammed in a way numerous verse tell you not to. Saying 'physically' follow is only adding to the will of the hadith followers and claiming he should be physically followed in how he dressed, spoke and used the bathroom, again numerous verses of Quran disagree on that. Saying 'those who were not given the book earlier' is also ignoring the verses that Allah tells you He sent THEM part of the Book too. Sorry but in my opinion it greatly distorts the verse and consequently distors many others.
what does he means by "physically follow"? Objection by an hadith monger looks strange?
Saying 'physically' follow is only adding to the will of the hadith followers and claiming he should be physically followed in how he dressed, spoke and used the bathroom, again numerous verses of Quran disagree on that.
Apprehension of Ayesha seemshaving emerged from genuine concerns and for reason that perhaps you do not know the meanings of which is made from Root " ". The basic perception infolded in the Root is to practically follow by will, design and affection in such a manner that one moves/walks behind remaining adjacent to the one being followed/pursued so that there is no third in between the follower and the one being followed. "" is calf walking behind his mother. The striking feature, individuality and peculiarity of this Root is the practical and physical aspect of following in action.
The perception and meanings infolded in this Root are distinct and absolutely different from that infolded in the Root " " which is translated by English word "obey" and " " by English word "follow" by most of the writers. This is how both the Roots are inadvertently/incorrectly brought closer and at par, as if they both convey similar meanings. "Obey" means and conveys the perception "to do as told; be controlled by somebody or something" and the word "follow" means "to obey something, act in accordance with something or instructions and directions given by somebody else". It is thus evident that English word "obey" and "follow" are in proximity of synonymous and both refer to an act while Arabic Roots " " and " " are not synonymous and are distinct from each other.
Arabic language is the most scientific language and its Roots enfold all physical/scientific realities and facts relating both to matter and life. A deliberate act of practically and physically following is the result of will/decision and it can take physical execution only by retrieving data, information, instruction, injunction or saying already and previously saved in the memory. A physical act by one's own will and decision/choice reflects and demonstrates his acceptance and liking of the concept and purpose which that act will or is expected to yield.
The basic perception infolded in Root " " is to accept something, word, command, direction, injunction, or saying wholeheartedly and affectionately by will and personal choice without any external pressure/force/fear/compulsion. And " " is the physical demonstration of executing that accepted thing in letter and spirit, exactly in the manner as is told; to follow and move step by step, dot by dot, word by word; move and follow on the footprints of the one being followed. Nothing should intervene including ones own passions, desires and conveniences between the follower and the followed, in which case one will satisfy and implement the perception of the Root, and shall thus be " " the one who acted exactly on what he accepted." " has a theoretical/ideological aspect while " " has practical/physical aspect/ connotation. It means translating/implementing into action what was accepted. This will also show and prove to others the truthfulness of the person that he had accepted that concept/idea/ fact/saying/news/Book truly and wholeheartedly. In sequence/time frame " " is after " " and not conversely.
And physcially following the Messenger , in letter and spirit, is that which he followed and that is Grand Qur'aan and he was asked, and repeatedly pronounced that he follows in letter and spirit the Qur'aan.
And remember we are not asked to "follow Allah" by using this Root " " since it involves physically following on the footprints.
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And what about this stupidity
No, the person can not hear them or see them, the only one that the person sees is the angel of death that he will take his soul, that he will leave the angels which team will rise with his soul, so the person he will not hear them arguing.
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No, the person can not hear them or see them, the only one that the person sees is the angel of death that he will take his soul, that he will leave the angels which team will rise with his soul, so the person he will not hear them arguing.
And having listened that statement his reaction was this
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what does he means by "physically follow"? Objection by an hadith monger looks strange?
Apprehension of Ayesha seemshaving emerged from genuine concerns and for reason that perhaps you do not know the meanings of which is made from Root " ". The basic perception infolded in the Root is to practically follow by will, design and affection in such a manner that one moves/walks behind remaining adjacent to the one being followed/pursued so that there is no third in between the follower and the one being followed. "" is calf walking behind his mother. The striking feature, individuality and peculiarity of this Root is the practical and physical aspect of following in action.
The perception and meanings infolded in this Root are distinct and absolutely different from that infolded in the Root " " which is translated by English word "obey" and " " by English word "follow" by most of the writers. This is how both the Roots are inadvertently/incorrectly brought closer and at par, as if they both convey similar meanings. "Obey" means and conveys the perception "to do as told; be controlled by somebody or something" and the word "follow" means "to obey something, act in accordance with something or instructions and directions given by somebody else". It is thus evident that English word "obey" and "follow" are in proximity of synonymous and both refer to an act while Arabic Roots " " and " " are not synonymous and are distinct from each other.
Arabic language is the most scientific language and its Roots enfold all physical/scientific realities and facts relating both to matter and life. A deliberate act of practically and physically following is the result of will/decision and it can take physical execution only by retrieving data, information, instruction, injunction or saying already and previously saved in the memory. A physical act by one's own will and decision/choice reflects and demonstrates his acceptance and liking of the concept and purpose which that act will or is expected to yield.
The basic perception infolded in Root " " is to accept something, word, command, direction, injunction, or saying wholeheartedly and affectionately by will and personal choice without any external pressure/force/fear/compulsion. And " " is the physical demonstration of executing that accepted thing in letter and spirit, exactly in the manner as is told; to follow and move step by step, dot by dot, word by word; move and follow on the footprints of the one being followed. Nothing should intervene including ones own passions, desires and conveniences between the follower and the followed, in which case one will satisfy and implement the perception of the Root, and shall thus be " " the one who acted exactly on what he accepted." " has a theoretical/ideological aspect while " " has practical/physical aspect/ connotation. It means translating/implementing into action what was accepted. This will also show and prove to others the truthfulness of the person that he had accepted that concept/idea/ fact/saying/news/Book truly and wholeheartedly. In sequence/time frame " " is after " " and not conversely.
And physcially following the Messenger , in letter and spirit, is that which he followed and that is Grand Qur'aan and he was asked, and repeatedly pronounced that he follows in letter and spirit the Qur'aan.
And remember we are not asked to "follow Allah" by using this Root " " since it involves physically following on the footprints.
ok Thank you for explaining that Mazhar but I still dont think the word 'physically' shows that. Firstly no one can 'physically' follow in the way you put it as he is no longer with us to form a line behind, and secondly it still does as I said before in that it asserts the behaviour of the hadith followers in that they have a clear verse to grow the beard a certain length etc etc, because there are enough who read but dont click already without saying physically follow him, they will do as they do now and say 'where can we find what he said and did so we can follow him?' and hence hadith is followed again as these are too blind to see that what is to follow is how he followed Quran.
If that makes sense.you also didnt address the issue of elevating him higher than other prophets.
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Yes, you're right the decision is from God but because Angels didn't know the last deeds of the person that died, that's why they arguied and they always do about who is going to rise with his soul are they the angels of the punishment or are they the angels of Mercy, so when they knew the last deeds of the person one of the team rise with his soul.
sorry I still cant imagine Angels arguing at someones death bed. how do they get to know the last deeds of the person and what is it to do with them anyway? the last deeds dont have anything to do with where one goes after death, its ALL your deeds that count.Yes, I know that they mean by cry shout or yell but the problem there no shout in the verse neither yell or cry as they translated it.
I agree, its 'say'oh Al-Hamdo-lilah, you agreed with what I said. now you believe me that this person Mazhar is using hadith in his interpretations and distorted the verses, let alone adding things.
No I dont agree he is using hadith but I do think the translation does distort the verse.
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http//OT Regarding the translation of 7157 I completely agree that is a mistranslation of the verse. It elevates the prophet Muhammed in a way numerous verse tell you not to.
This too seems to be the result of the fact that, under the influeence of Jewish culture, Arabic word is frequently translated as "prophet" the primary connotation of which is that one who prohecies and in the dictionaries one who predicts is called "progosticator" the equivalent of which in Arabic is Kahin.
The Root is Noon Ba Waw, meaning elevated.
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what does he means by "physically follow"? Objection by an hadith monger looks strange?
Apprehension of Ayesha seemshaving emerged from genuine concerns and for reason that perhaps you do not know the meanings of which is made from Root " ". The basic perception infolded in the Root is to practically follow by will, design and affection in such a manner that one moves/walks behind remaining adjacent to the one being followed/pursued so that there is no third in between the follower and the one being followed. "" is calf walking behind his mother. The striking feature, individuality and peculiarity of this Root is the practical and physical aspect of following in action.
The perception and meanings infolded in this Root are distinct and absolutely different from that infolded in the Root " " which is translated by English word "obey" and " " by English word "follow" by most of the writers. This is how both the Roots are inadvertently/incorrectly brought closer and at par, as if they both convey similar meanings. "Obey" means and conveys the perception "to do as told; be controlled by somebody or something" and the word "follow" means "to obey something, act in accordance with something or instructions and directions given by somebody else". It is thus evident that English word "obey" and "follow" are in proximity of synonymous and both refer to an act while Arabic Roots " " and " " are not synonymous and are distinct from each other.
Arabic language is the most scientific language and its Roots enfold all physical/scientific realities and facts relating both to matter and life. A deliberate act of practically and physically following is the result of will/decision and it can take physical execution only by retrieving data, information, instruction, injunction or saying already and previously saved in the memory. A physical act by one's own will and decision/choice reflects and demonstrates his acceptance and liking of the concept and purpose which that act will or is expected to yield.
The basic perception infolded in Root " " is to accept something, word, command, direction, injunction, or saying wholeheartedly and affectionately by will and personal choice without any external pressure/force/fear/compulsion. And " " is the physical demonstration of executing that accepted thing in letter and spirit, exactly in the manner as is told; to follow and move step by step, dot by dot, word by word; move and follow on the footprints of the one being followed. Nothing should intervene including ones own passions, desires and conveniences between the follower and the followed, in which case one will satisfy and implement the perception of the Root, and shall thus be " " the one who acted exactly on what he accepted." " has a theoretical/ideological aspect while " " has practical/physical aspect/ connotation. It means translating/implementing into action what was accepted. This will also show and prove to others the truthfulness of the person that he had accepted that concept/idea/ fact/saying/news/Book truly and wholeheartedly. In sequence/time frame " " is after " " and not conversely.
And physcially following the Messenger , in letter and spirit, is that which he followed and that is Grand Qur'aan and he was asked, and repeatedly pronounced that he follows in letter and spirit the Qur'aan.
And remember we are not asked to "follow Allah" by using this Root " " since it involves physically following on the footprints.
Stop using Arabic with false grammar and false roots of the words, you are making people confuse. you should learn Arabic you first and when I talked about learning Arabic it takes years and years to explain to people the words let alone that you can't give them the meanings of the words. the word here is those who follow, and when we talk about that we mean following is by hearts.
the physicallly follow is "" with " " and it is a verb. so again stop confusing people /you don't know Arabic , stop pretending that you know it.
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This too seems to be the result of the fact that, under the influeence of Jewish culture, Arabic word is frequently translated as "prophet" the primary connotation of which is that one who prohecies and in the dictionaries one who predicts is called "progosticator" the equivalent of which in Arabic is Kahin.
The Root is Noon Ba Waw, meaning elevated.what ? the elevated ? who told you that ? or where did you find it? .
by the way the root is not "Noon Ba Waw" , the root is Noon Ba'a Alef " " .
P.S means prophet, so stop your hallucination.
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Nothing appears more stupid and retarded behaviour to me when a person claiming to be Arab writes one letter and three consonants of Arabic alphabet in a row and loudly calls it a verb.
hahahah, what a joke rotfl . So I'm wrong despite that the language is my native language and I've took it from birth. ok I'll challenge you, go ask an Arabic about what I wrote and let's see who is Stupid and retarded behaviour me or you(the person who pretend and he don't want to learn).