was the Quran THE BOOK OF ALL prophet?
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was the Quran THE BOOK OF ALL prophet?
No it wasn't. If it was the book to Nuh, it would be absurd for Nuh to challenge Allah in 11/45 and for Allah to rebuke him in 11/46 when he already read it in the Quran!
Rather, the Quran is 'tafseel a-kitab' (10/37) which means it details the book. What is the book? It's basically God's system given to all prophets (2/213- al-kitab bil haqq). So in a sense, the Quran is by way of philosophy and principles, the book of all Prophets. It's just not so verbatim.
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Aha, really !!! I supposed you were a Christian before, ok let me remind you
Christians said that they have crucified AISSA peace be upon him and then they have killed him .
Quran came to abrogate or to cancel or to delete wha they said ""We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made.."
what do you call this part? there are others ..etc
To 'abrogate' something then it had to have come FROM Him before. This didnt. The Quran CORRECTS this untruth that the christians followed which was based on MESSING with the original message. It CORRECTS all those untruths that have crept into the religion from man, sadly there will be no more CORRECTIONS to the mess man has made by adding to Quran to make 'sunni Islam', hence my last statement of 'this is the final message so LISTEN UP'.
Quran confirms some and cancels some, and we all know that they are from the same source .
No it confirms they came from Him but CORRECTS what they got wrong.The message is "The is no god but God" where is the completion ?
That is ALL you see in Quran? There is a lot more to it than that, but I agree that is the basics, shame its sooo hard for MAN to realize and stick to that.Yes, it is a reminder for those who have mind.
remind isnt to do with having a mind. remind is to recall that which was before. You ignore what was given before so remind is mute for you. ;DI don't know what do you mean by this paragraph ? I found it weird hmm
You would because you took no notice of the previous parts of the message, so you wouldnt understand it.
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Aha, really !!! I supposed you were a Christian before, ok let me remind you
Christians said that they have crucified AISSA peace be upon him and then they have killed him .
To clarify something here. Not ALL Christians believe Jesus was God in the flesh or the 'begotten' son of God. I never believed that even when I had the label 'Christian'. I have always prayed to God alone, never to Jesus or anyone else and was fully aware that Jesus was just a man, a messenger of God.
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To 'abrogate' something then it had to have come FROM Him before. This didnt. The Quran CORRECTS this untruth that the christians followed which was based on MESSING with the original message. It CORRECTS all those untruths that have crept into the religion from man,
is this look like correction ? please give it a break.
sadly there will be no more CORRECTIONS to the mess man has made by adding to Quran to make 'sunni Islam', hence my last statement of 'this is the final message so LISTEN UP'.
I think this is Off-Topic . when we eat a meal, the end is washing our hands not eat and wash at the same time .
No it confirms they came from Him but CORRECTS what they got wrong.
Correction can be by deleting sometimes. Being wrong doesn't mean that you're not correct .
That is ALL you see in Quran? There is a lot more to it than that, but I agree that is the basics, shame its sooo hard for MAN to realize and stick to that.
You didn't answer my question instead of that you asked a question you can't answer it . Now you'll answer both of them .
remind isnt to do with having a mind. remind is to recall that which was before. You ignore what was given before so remind is mute for you. ;D
Recall is also for those who have mind.
You would because you took no notice of the previous parts of the message, so you wouldnt understand it.
is that your way of saying nothing ?
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o o o o o is this look like correction ? please give it a break.
Of course its a correction! Did Allah say that Jesus was crucified? NO, did the Christians? YES, so in Quran Allah is CORRECTING what the Christians said about Jesus, He is not abrogating it as He didnt say it in the first place.I think this is Off-Topic . when we eat a meal, the end is washing our hands not eat and wash at the same time .
My comment was ON topic, you washing your hands after a meal is OFF topic - and most people wash hands BEFORE a meal, thats those that dont eat WITH their hands. If I eat with my hands I still wash BEFORE AND AFTER so washing hands is the beginning AND the end.Now that is totally OFF TOPIC
Correction can be by deleting sometimes. Being wrong doesn't mean that you're not correct .
to DELETE something one has to have PUT IT THERE in the first place, Allah didnt.
Give me just ONE instance where being wrong does NOT mean you're not CORRECT.You didn't answer my question instead of that you asked a question you can't answer it . Now you'll answer both of them .
sorry what question?Recall is also for those who have mind.
as you like
is that your way of saying nothing ?
No it is my way of saying that Quran had a high impact on me, I dont think you would understand that though.
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Of course its a correction! Did Allah say that Jesus was crucified? NO, did the Christians? YES, so in Quran Allah is CORRECTING what the Christians said about Jesus, He is not abrogating it as He didnt say it in the first place.
If you're talking from this point of that Allah didn't say that, it will not be correcting, in fact it will be Exposing and making them liars and they are Liars. so it is a Scandal.
to DELETE something one has to have PUT IT THERE in the first place, Allah didnt.
They put it there and they claimed that it is God's words, so God exposed this lie . and delete means erase this idea from minds of people.
Give me just ONE instance where being wrong does NOT mean you're not CORRECT.
Eistein and his mathematicals solutions over some issues were always wrong by definition until they have proven right and correct after a decades.
sorry what question?
where is the completion ? and don't forget answering your own question .
No it is my way of saying that Quran had a high impact on me, I dont think you would understand that though.
elektro confused
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If you're talking from this point of that Allah didn't say that, it will not be correcting, in fact it will be Exposing and making them liars and they are Liars. so it is a Scandal.
he CORRECTED the ERROR that they wrote. yes He exposed them if you would rather have that in mind, yes it was 'a scandalous act' but no it wasnt a scandal, God made NO scandal of it and marely CORRECTED the error THEY made.We can fight on this for a week but you are wrong, it was a correction not a deletion, it is still in the books so not deleted, it is corrected.
They put it there and they claimed that it is God's words, so God exposed this lie . and delete means erase this idea from minds of people.
They put it there but they did not claim it was Gods words, they claimed that this is what happened at that time, nothing to do with Gods words. Yes it was a lie as the correction on this is in Quran, their lie is exposed if you feel better with that explanation. I know what delete means and it is not deleted or erased from the books or from peoples minds. It is CORRECTED.Eistein and his mathematicals solutions over some issues were always wrong by definition until they have proven right and correct after a decades.
that is not an example, give me an example of one of Einsteins mathematical solutions that was WRONG but then RIGHT without him having to change/correct anything.where is the completion ? and don't forget answering your own question .
still not sure what you mean here but I will give it a go.The completion is Quran, the final part of the message form God.
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he CORRECTED the ERROR that they wrote. yes He exposed them if you would rather have that in mind, yes it was 'a scandalous act' but no it wasnt a scandal, God made NO scandal of it and marely CORRECTED the error THEY made.
Hahaha, you know what I'll stop speaking about the subject .
We can fight on this for a week but you are wrong, it was a correction not a deletion, it is still in the books so not deleted, it is corrected.
I'm not fighting and I'm not wrong >>>>>> the discussion is stopped sorry .
They put it there but they did not claim it was Gods words, they claimed that this is what happened at that time, nothing to do with Gods words. Yes it was a lie as the correction on this is in Quran, their lie is exposed if you feel better with that explanation. I know what delete means and it is not deleted or erased from the books or from peoples minds. It is CORRECTED.
Do we correct lies ? is God in need to correct a lie ?
that is not an example, give me an example of one of Einsteins mathematical solutions that was WRONG but then RIGHT without him having to change/correct anything.
We're not sure that what Eistein said or did or found is correct . all what he does, is relative
still not sure what you mean here but I will give it a go.
The completion is Quran, the final part of the message form God.Sorry you didn't answer my question neither yours which is as I see you avoid to speak about it. any other post from you, will not be replied and sorry .
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Hahaha, you know what I'll stop speaking about the subject .
I'm not fighting and I'm not wrong >>>>>> the discussion is stopped sorry .
Your problem is in understanding the words CORRECT and DELETEDo we correct lies ? is God in need to correct a lie ?
obviously! Do we just leave a lie as a lie or do we correct it so that people are not following a lie?The discussion is not stopped, you have stopped replying as you KNOW you are wrong but hate to admit it. It is not a battle here, the words I am using are correct in this context, you need to understand that I am not insisting its right because i have some personal grudge against you, I dont, but Allah corrected the error, he did not delete it or abrogate it, although these words have SIMILAR meanings they are not the right meanings for THIS.
We're not sure that what Eistein said or did or found is correct . all what he does, is relative
then why give Einstein as an example?
Sorry you didn't answer my question neither yours which is as I see you avoid to speak about it.
Then I am sincerely sorry but I can find no question of yours I didnt answer. and why would I ask a question for myself to answer? Please post these mysterious questions that I seem to have missed as I can assure you I am avoiding speaking about nothing at all, that is what you do by refusing to carry on a conversation.
any other post from you, will not be replied and sorry .
I rest my case!
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2213 The people used to be one nation, then God sent the prophets as bearers of good news and warners, and He sent down with them the Book with the truth so that they may judge between the people in what they were disputing. But after receiving the clarity, the people disputed in it due to animosity between them. And God guided those who believed with His permission regarding what they disputed in of the truth. And God guides whoever He wishes to a straight path.
683 And such was Our argument that We gave Abraham over his people; We raise the degree of whom We please. Your Lord is Wise, Knowledgeable.
684 And We granted him Isaac and Jacob, both of whom We guided; and Noah We guided from before; and from his progeny is David, and Solomon, and Job, and Joseph, and Moses, and Aaron. It is such that We recompense the good doers.
685 And Zachariah and John, and Jesus, and Elias; all were from the upright.
686 And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot; and each We have preferred over the worlds.
687 And from their fathers and their progeny and their brothers We have also chosen; and We guided them to a straight path.
688 Such is the guidance of God, He guides with it whom He pleases of His servants. And if they set up partners, then all that they had worked would fall away from them.
689 These are the ones to whom We have given the Book ( ) , and the law, and the prophethood, if they reject it, then We will entrust it to a people who will not reject it.348 And He teaches him (Essa) the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel.
These are just three of the verses and in all of them, "the Book" is translated from "Al-Kitab" which appears many times all over the Quran as an intensive singular. Reading all such verses where Al-Kitab, Torah, Injeel, Quran, Kutub, Suhuf is mentioned, my understanding is that the book has been the same that was given to all prophets.
Interstingly enough, in verses 683-86, Prophet Muhammad is not mentioned as he was the seal of the prophets.
One God, One religion, One Book...sounds simple to me.