Members Comments on Formal Debate on Abrogation in Quran
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Yeah, he won the prize for having no sense of debate/reasoning, let alone knowledge of what he speaks of. I've seen such kids in different scenario's, the sad part is, most of them don't want to learn and better themselves. They have no shame, they'll just keep at it. At least in school we had some rules, out in the big wide world, they feel empowered and identify with other such people and create a gang which goes by the motto We are many thus we have no need for logic/sense or capacity to understand.
aah the blissful ignorance of youth eh? ;D
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Or just blissful ignorance? For all I know the dude is 55, balding, sitting in a garret somewhere thinking he's 21.
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Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."
The narcissist is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, and prestige. Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness.
Diagnostic criteria (ICD-10)
The World Health Organization's ICD-10 lists narcissistic personality disorder under ( F60.8 ) Other specific personality disorders.
It is a requirement of ICD-10 that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria.
Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV)
The essential feature of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy that begins by early adulthood and is present in a variety of situations and environments.
In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms
Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
Requires excessive admiration
Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
Lacks empathy is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
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Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."
The narcissist is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, and prestige. Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness.
Diagnostic criteria (ICD-10)
The World Health Organization's ICD-10 lists narcissistic personality disorder under ( F60.8 ) Other specific personality disorders.
It is a requirement of ICD-10 that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria.
Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV)
The essential feature of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy that begins by early adulthood and is present in a variety of situations and environments.
In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms
Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
Requires excessive admiration
Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
Lacks empathy is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
Thats HIM
let him back in but he can only have the account name Narcissist ;D
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Are you sure ? he didn't answer my questions, he didn't understand the point of ssaying last religion, so the one who answered very well the questions and put every verse in its context is with 0 . well that shows one thing is that you all hate me and you don't love the truth .
No man dont say that Im > and i love you most. laugh
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TheFormer1
I have been banned, so the mods are afraid of showing the people that I won this debate and I did win, but to say to people that he ran away, they banned me .
this is sad realy sad! My advise to you and all never get involved with a MOd on this particular forum, result will be a BAN. Experience makes a man (may be) perfect
No doubt Theformer1's attitude at this debate was not up to the mark, but to place ban is just tooo strict a punishment, the thread could have been locked and a warning issued.After all its FREEEEEEE MINDS.
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Ra-jah, I'm so glad to hear you're closer to perfection now. Maybe you should be thanking us?
If this was Th1's first dance, you might be correct. However it is not. I understand that those burnt by fire are sometimes traumatized by it, but it doesn't make it any less useful for the purposes it is meant for.
When he comes back, you guys can exchange notes. Perhaps you can also debate him and show us how it's done? I look forward to your pithy comments then.
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A quote from savage-carrot
As long as we try to be unbiased, and have an open mind, try to see things from another person's perspective and essentially wish to learn from one another rather than dictate how things are, we can progress in understanding. I believe we all have our weaknesses and faults but that's what life is, a series of learning experiences.
"Kash tu samjh paati kay kitna tuj ko chahety hain hum
Bina dekhay har waqt teri he tasveer banatey hain hum"Raj-ah
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"Kash tu samjh paati kay kitna tuj ko chahety hain hum
Bina dekhay har waqt teri he tasveer banatey hain hum"This is entirely unacceptable. I'm sorry, but you're just not my type. I know rejection can be hard on a man, so please think of happy things. There's plenty left to live for, Th1 will be back one day.
Btw, that quote is private and seeing as how you don't yet know the etiquette of divulging private information in public, consider this yet another learning step on your road to perfection. I've let it slide because there's nothing on there I haven't said on the main forum. If you wish to dig for "incriminating" evidence, you'll have to try a bit harder
edit I know there are those that wish to know what that "sonnet" meant, here is a rough translation
"I wish you could understand how much I want/desire you
Without seeing you, I keep thinking what/how you look like all the time" or "Without ever having seen you, I keep making pictures of you all the time". -
savage-carrot
Btw, that quote is private and seeing as how you don't yet know the etiquette of divulging private information in public, consider this yet another learning step on your road to perfection. I've let it slide because there's nothing on there I haven't said on the main forum. If you wish to dig for "incriminating" evidence, you'll have to try a bit harder
I don't see any thing against etiquette in quoting this quote of yours, as it is an excellent quote, nothing private in it, or leakage of any information. In fact I posted it so others can benefit from it too.
savage-carrot
This is entirely unacceptable. I'm sorry, but you're just not my type. I know rejection can be hard on a man, so please think of happy things. There's plenty left to live for, Th1 will be back one day.
I know rejection is much harder on the woman, especialy the intelligent one.
Type can be changed, however I never asked for an acceptance
it can be one sided, meaning 50% done."Tum hamey chaho ya na chaho
Yeah preet na ho gi kam"Hope you will take it on lighter side. I just re-joined few days back and don't want to be banned so early,
Raj-ah -
I must admit, I'm as good in private as I am in public (P) but there is a line we don't cross, that of private and public.
With that out of the way, true you just revealed your feelings, that too on a public forum. I gotta say, that must count for something .
"Whether you want/desire me or don't want/desire me
This love will not abate/lessen"I'm just speechless at this time. Please, let me take this all in.
<this is your cue to exit stage left>
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Peace, Raaajah peace
In fact I posted it so others can benefit from it too.
And how would we benefit from a quote in ... what is it? Urdu? confused
I know rejection is much harder on the woman, especialy the intelligent one.
Are you a man? If yes, how would you be able to "know"?
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And how would we benefit from a quote in ... what is it? Urdu?
he meant the one before his brilliant sonnetAre you a man? If yes, how would you be able to "know"?
I've said this to him in the past, he thinks he's a highlander with the second sight. Women's myriad mysteries are but a mere piffle to his keen, razor sharp senses. -
OK, I'm getting thoroughly confused now. Guess it's time for bed. http//www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aktion/action-smiley-061.gif
Firstly, I thought Raaajah was a woman. Guess that's my mistake ... I just assumed it was a female name because all Raajahs I've met were female.
It also reminds me of spices, P since I have some of these in my kitchen
http//alexandriadailyphoto.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/img_0700-s.jpg
he meant the one before his brilliant sonnet
I thought he was referring to this quote, no? Which language is it?
"Kash tu samjh paati kay kitna tuj ko chahety hain hum
Bina dekhay har waqt teri he tasveer banatey hain hum" -
"Tum hamey chaho ya na chaho
Yeah preet na ho gi kam"Bina chahat ke muhabbat kiye jate ho?
insaan ho ke muhabbat ke devta ho?http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6HbwM9qcNY
sun
http//t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnE9GPcXf6WE6yFMhttp//manhattaninfidel.com/__oneclick_uploads/2009/04/bugs-bunny-forever1.jpg -
Firstly, I thought Raaajah was a woman. Guess that's my mistake ... I just assumed it was a female name because all Raajahs I've met were female.
It also reminds me of spices, since I have some of these in my kitchen
Hahaha, that's a first! Oh, he will just have to prove it to you now.I thought he was referring to this quote, no? Which language is it?
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Leyna
Are you a man?
My all girlfriends think so.
Leyna
If yes, how would you be able to "know"?
Only a Man can know, if you ignore/reject a beautiful/intelligent women how do they feel,
it is through thier reactions, and gestures, that is practical and proven.Leyna
It also reminds me of spices, since I have some of these in my kitchen
Oh! i am more than glad to be in your kitchen all the time if
you are as beautiful as in your avtar?
Talking about savage-carrot, she is my type of lady, with a whip in hand, agressive and autocratic, I am in >>>> with her, even though i have not seen her.
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My all girlfriends think so.
Thanks for clearing that up. !
Only a Man can know, if you ignore/reject a beautiful/intelligent women how do they feel,
Mmh ... I would assume nobody knows better than the woman herself how she feels, no? hmm
Oh! i am more than glad to be in your kitchen all the time if
you are as beautiful as in your avtar?
Glad you don't mind being in my kitchen. eat
The picture in my avatar is heavily photoshopped, I look different in reality. Whether I'm beautiful or not depends on your taste, I guess.
peace
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Talking about savage-carrot, she is my type of lady, with a whip in hand, agressive and autocratic, I am in >>>> with her, even though i have not seen her.
and her english is awesome! she beats to everyone on this! I always enjoy reading her posts! bravo