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The answer as to why we are here is long before in the quran

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    In hippy circles, it is said that this is all an illusion, just a game God plays to distract himself from himself. They also say however that God is the totality of existence, the great "I", but we are also God in that we make up part of that totality. The notion is that if you were God almighty (the Self), then you would get bored, happening to know everything and so on and so forth. However the quran says this is a load of bollocks

    021.016
    YUSUFALI Not for (idle) sport did We create the heavens and the earth and all that is between!
    PICKTHAL We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them in play.
    SHAKIR And We did not create the heaven and the earth and what is between them for sport.

    021.017
    YUSUFALI If it had been Our wish to take (just) a pastime, We should surely have taken it from the things nearest to Us, if We would do (such a thing)!
    PICKTHAL If We had wished to find a pastime, We could have found it in Our presence - if We ever did.
    SHAKIR Had We wished to make a diversion, We would have made it from before Ourselves by no means would We do (it).

    021.018
    YUSUFALI Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).
    PICKTHAL Nay, but We hurl the true against the false, and it doth break its head and lo! it vanisheth. And yours will be woe for that which ye ascribe (unto Him).
    SHAKIR Nay! We cast the truth against the falsehood, so that it breaks its head, and lo! it vanishes; and woe to you for what you describe;

    021.019
    YUSUFALI To Him belong all (creatures) in the heavens and on earth Even those who are in His (very) Presence are not too proud to serve Him, nor are they (ever) weary (of His service)
    PICKTHAL Unto Him belongeth whosoever is in the heavens and the earth. And those who dwell in His presence are not too proud to worship Him, nor do they weary;
    SHAKIR And whoever is in the heavens and the earth is His; and those who are with Him are not proud to serve Him, nor do they grow weary.

    2118 is the very reason we exist in this universe, we are part of the battle between Truth vs falsehood. In essence the divine computer is examining itself and removing its errors instance by instance. How so? Trial and error!

    This is identical to evolution by natural selection where the strong and weak beef it out and the strong ALWAYS prevail. Except "strong and weak" are constantly changing terms based on the local environment. However, truth is ALWAYS truth and falsehood ALWAYS is falsehood. The only advantage of falsehood is that it can cloud and distract from Truth but it can never change or vanquish Truth itself. However, truth by rule is dominant.

    There is a clear way to show this. Create a metre stick. Ask one person to measure it, he will reply in Truth that it is 1 metre long. Ask another, the same, you could ask an infinite number of people and they will only give you that answer. Now suppose we have a bunch of deceptive liars in the crowd, for instance someone says 2 metres, they are lying. Their lie does not change the Truth because truth stands on its own. However if that idiot tells the next person in line that it is 2 metres and then the next person tells the next that "so and so said it was 2 metres, I'm not so sure it's 1 now" and then the next person and the next (and then Bukhari runs in and asks every 4th guy and writes it down in a book and sells it as Truth The Explanation) then there is obviously going to be some deception going on!

    What does the Arabic say about 2119? What I mean is that I consider the reason that God switches between I/We in the quran every so often is because We are God, but only the divine I or the divine We can be considered as God! We is defined as the sum of all the individual Is, which in themselves are absolutely nothing in the same way that 1/infinity tends to 0 but are very damn powerful when you consider the definition of infinity, the sum (or for instance 0.99999... = 1). 2119 lends credence to such an interpretation.

    Also, what is the "head" of falsehood in 2118? I hope especially that TheReformer1 with his incredible arabic knowledge will run in to save the day D

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      Peace to all,

      Very interesting post OPF, well thought out explanation of one of the profoundest questions of all.

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        Well, I can answer you but they must remove the ban (I'm banned) .

        P.S I will answer you by "Thereformer1" not by this account .

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