Tattoos Taboo for a Muslim?
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The strange thing is I read a few surahs of the Qur'an last night while contemplating getting more tattoos and it's like God didn't want me to get them. I've had these tattoos planned for a long time all my ink is spiritual in nature even the ones from before I was Muslim. The thing the Qur'an does say is to avoid excesses in beautifying oneself though the fact that I make sure to cover all my tattoos makes me inclined to think I am not breaking that rule.
What kept jumping out at me last night were verses of God saying he made us in a goodly shape or goodly form and those who ignore his messages will burn. I do not want to burn simply for being too arrogant not to inject ink into my skin. I get the message that body modification for the purpose of looking good might be a sin which is why I haven't been wearing earrings the past couple weeks.
I have my chest and my right arm done I was going to do a larger sleeve on my left arm but I'm fearful of whether or not it's a sin...
I'll post some of the pics of the tattoos I do have though just so you guys can peep them
http//i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/DeEvolution/mytattoos001.jpg
though i'll have to go over the arabic in black i found out from a friend that the tattoo artist messed up on 1 or 2 of the letters d'oh! it's supposed to say faithfulness above all. i like the idea of it being even more vague and general without a quote too thoughhttp//i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/DeEvolution/mytattoos003.jpg
here's one side of my arm... my first tattoo before I even reverted to Islam it's a phoenix it's hard to see in the pic but the phoenix is lifting a cross in one talon, and a broken tombstone in the other. a metaphor for my spiritual rebirthhttp//i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/DeEvolution/mytattoos-1.jpg
the other side of my arm the same phoenix being dragged down by an evil hand if u look carefully it represents my spiritual state before I found Godplan on getting some more heavy stuff on my chest and my left arm I'm scared mainly to how other Muslims will react, how to explain to my kids, how my potential wife will view them, and if i'm exceeding the measure by injecting all this ink into my skin.
(4119) "I will mislead them, I will entice them, I will command them to marking the ears of livestock, and I will command them to distort the creation of GOD."
To be honest I'm not sure if I believe this verse is talking about our physical form. If you compare this verse to 3030 both the verses are talking about the religion of Islam itself when it talks about the devil causing us to distort or change Allah's creation or the nature of Allah's creation. This is what it says in my translation of the Qur'an so I don't believe that verse should be substantive evidence that tattoos are haram. I believe the words used in arabic for changing God's creation are the same in both of these verses and speaks about our the natural and universal law of Islam or submission throughout nature and the universe. All animals, every tree, the sun, the moon, the stars, the ocean, the angels, are constantly in a state of Islam or submission to God. This is a fact of nature every single atom in the universe, the seen and the unseen, all of God's creation from the tiniest subatomic article is in a state of submission to God in one way or the other.Only humans have the choice to willingly do so which makes us so great and special. I'll show you the verse to compare so you can get my point.
"Therefore, you shall devote yourself to the religion of strict monotheism. Such is the natural instinct placed into the people by GOD. Such creation of GOD will never change. This is the perfect religion, but most people do not know."
See when it says changing our nature or changing the creation of God it cannot be talking about our physical features because here it says the creation of God will never change. This goes back to the fact that Islam is the natural religion of man and those who don't believe in the Unity and Oneness of God are going against nature. Man's natural religion embedded inside of us is Islam which is why the devil tries to change that nature and make us doubt God as the Absolute Ruler, the One God.
oh and thank you for welcoming me to the forum peace salam
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See when it says changing our nature or changing the creation of God it cannot be talking about our physical features
I think it does because in the same verse cutting animals' ears off is being mentioned.
Whether you believe tattoos are haram or not depends on your personal interpretation of that verse and imho you should go with what feels right for you.
But in any case I can't imagine that you will burn in hell for getting a tattoo.
Welcome, btw. I like your avatar. peace
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I'm still on the fence. I really want these tattoos but it might be the devil trying to lead me astray. And people be careful about if you say a tattoo is okay or not I'm still not sure if they're a sin or not and if you tell another muslim it's not a sin when it really is you have just committed a sin yourself by attributing a lie to God.
I know if I do decide to get these tattoos only I will live with them. Only I will face the judgment not only from God but from other people it's just so hard since I've already done so much work I'm afraid to take the final step and finish my thoughts. I know if they are a sin God will punish me and I will regret them as tattoos are for life. The thing is when you get a tattoo that represents a deep belief it is very difficult to truly regret I'm not even sure if I truly regret the tattoos I have now. As I think more and read the Qur'an more to look for evidence against tattoos everything is pointing me toward the idea that tattoos are indeed a sin.
I am guilty of changing my body
I am guilty of excessively beautifying myself
I am guilty of being prideful (proud of my ink whether I show it or not)Yet my want for the tattoos does not go away! The hadith about tattoos makes perfect sense when you look at the message of the Qur'an what I'm MOST afraid of is I might lead other young muslims astray if someone sees my ink they may think it's alright for them to get ink I must think about the example I'm setting for others... God so much to think about for what I used to think was so trivial!!
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Faithful-Jinn
It seems that your attraction to the tattoos is as a form of beautification of self, for your own pleasure and possibly to attract the eye of others. Maybe a good exercise would be to try to tattoo your soul with beautiful acts. It might bring you even greater pleasure. Possibly by volunteering or helping others, somehow. The primary message of the Qur'an is one God without partners or forms of idolatry. Tattooing strikes me as a form of idolatry of the body, whereas the Qur'an is guidance to help you realize that it is your soul that you should try to beautify, rather than your body.
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I may have transgressed and those pics don't even include every single one of my tattoos brickwall I already somewhat regret some of my ink though only because other people do look down on people with tattoos and now I know it's with reason.
I can see how they are sinful even though I don't like it it's not my place to question God. I don't think I'll continue tattooing my arms and my chest like I planned because as the Qur'an says
.. But you may dislike something which is good for you, and you may like something which is bad for you. GOD knows while you do not know.
peace
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The strange thing is I read a few surahs of the Qur'an last night while contemplating getting more tattoos and it's like God didn't want me to get them. I've had these tattoos planned for a long time all my ink is spiritual in nature even the ones from before I was Muslim. The thing the Qur'an does say is to avoid excesses in beautifying oneself though the fact that I make sure to cover all my tattoos makes me inclined to think I am not breaking that rule.
What kept jumping out at me last night were verses of God saying he made us in a goodly shape or goodly form and those who ignore his messages will burn. I do not want to burn simply for being too arrogant not to inject ink into my skin. I get the message that body modification for the purpose of looking good might be a sin which is why I haven't been wearing earrings the past couple weeks.
I have my chest and my right arm done I was going to do a larger sleeve on my left arm but I'm fearful of whether or not it's a sin...
I'll post some of the pics of the tattoos I do have though just so you guys can peep them
http//i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/DeEvolution/mytattoos001.jpg
though i'll have to go over the arabic in black i found out from a friend that the tattoo artist messed up on 1 or 2 of the letters d'oh! it's supposed to say faithfulness above all. i like the idea of it being even more vague and general without a quote too thoughhttp//i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/DeEvolution/mytattoos003.jpg
here's one side of my arm... my first tattoo before I even reverted to Islam it's a phoenix it's hard to see in the pic but the phoenix is lifting a cross in one talon, and a broken tombstone in the other. a metaphor for my spiritual rebirthhttp//i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/DeEvolution/mytattoos-1.jpg
the other side of my arm the same phoenix being dragged down by an evil hand if u look carefully it represents my spiritual state before I found Godplan on getting some more heavy stuff on my chest and my left arm I'm scared mainly to how other Muslims will react, how to explain to my kids, how my potential wife will view them, and if i'm exceeding the measure by injecting all this ink into my skin.
(4119) "I will mislead them, I will entice them, I will command them to marking the ears of livestock, and I will command them to distort the creation of GOD."
To be honest I'm not sure if I believe this verse is talking about our physical form. If you compare this verse to 3030 both the verses are talking about the religion of Islam itself when it talks about the devil causing us to distort or change Allah's creation or the nature of Allah's creation. This is what it says in my translation of the Qur'an so I don't believe that verse should be substantive evidence that tattoos are haram. I believe the words used in arabic for changing God's creation are the same in both of these verses and speaks about our the natural and universal law of Islam or submission throughout nature and the universe. All animals, every tree, the sun, the moon, the stars, the ocean, the angels, are constantly in a state of Islam or submission to God. This is a fact of nature every single atom in the universe, the seen and the unseen, all of God's creation from the tiniest subatomic article is in a state of submission to God in one way or the other.Only humans have the choice to willingly do so which makes us so great and special. I'll show you the verse to compare so you can get my point.
"Therefore, you shall devote yourself to the religion of strict monotheism. Such is the natural instinct placed into the people by GOD. Such creation of GOD will never change. This is the perfect religion, but most people do not know."
See when it says changing our nature or changing the creation of God it cannot be talking about our physical features because here it says the creation of God will never change. This goes back to the fact that Islam is the natural religion of man and those who don't believe in the Unity and Oneness of God are going against nature. Man's natural religion embedded inside of us is Islam which is why the devil tries to change that nature and make us doubt God as the Absolute Ruler, the One God.
oh and thank you for welcoming me to the forum peace salam
Fighting in allah's way is of course a hard way.
http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=%2822163%29
Quran 4118 Whom Allah has cursed. For he had said, "I will surely take from among Your servants a specific portion.
4119 And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss.
Maybe you can aim to inshallah get sadaqa from your local community to remove that occult symbol from your body.
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Fighting in allah's way is of course a hard way.
http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=%2822163%29
Quran 4118 Whom Allah has cursed. For he had said, "I will surely take from among Your servants a specific portion.
4119 And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss.
Maybe you can aim to inshallah get sadaqa from your local community to remove that occult symbol from your body.
Excuse me? What occult symbol? First off I'm not going to bother getting these removed it would just leave a scar in the exact shape of my tattoo anyways. And second off please don't patronize me I can almost smell the condescension and the judgment in your post.
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Assalamu alaykum
Occult symbols http//www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
As for sadaqa of tattoo removal http//www.iol.co.za/scitech/technology/the-natural-way-to-remove-tattoos-1.217635
https//docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AV-t_z4hXTE3ZGNqemI3bmNfMGR6MzhtNmR2&hl=en
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Assalamu alaykum
Occult symbols http//www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
As for sadaqa of tattoo removal http//www.iol.co.za/scitech/technology/the-natural-way-to-remove-tattoos-1.217635
https//docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AV-t_z4hXTE3ZGNqemI3bmNfMGR6MzhtNmR2&hl=en
I may consider removal later on if I choose. I think repentance is enough. Still don't approve of your condescending tone however I highly doubt if you were face to face with me you would have the audacity to tell me to remove my "occult symbols" from my body.
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Those tattoos look painful.
I reckon henna and temporary airbrushed tats are cool.. once your bored change a new design
if you're gut feeling isn't for it then well i guess refrain from it but what's done is done. worry about the now and future.
welcome to the forum
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I may have transgressed and those pics don't even include every single one of my tattoos brickwall I already somewhat regret some of my ink though only because other people do look down on people with tattoos and now I know it's with reason.
I can see how they are sinful even though I don't like it it's not my place to question God. I don't think I'll continue tattooing my arms and my chest like I planned because as the Qur'an says
.. But you may dislike something which is good for you, and you may like something which is bad for you. GOD knows while you do not know.
peace
Salaam FJ,
well said bro. You may not be able to change wat is done. But the important thing is to not let it bother you in the future.
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Assalamu alaykum
Occult symbols http//www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
lol so everything is an occult symbol. Even the humble circle made it into the list. Just because people attach certain meanings to tertian shapes, that doesn't mean they take on that meaning.
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I don't see how anyone can make tattoos forbidden by this quranic ayah....its a weak interpretation at best
4119 And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss.
I think cross referencing of words and cross analysis is needed because if Allah wanted to make tattoos forbidden he would have CLEARLY stated so. Would anyone say shaving is forbidden too as that is changing the creation of Allah.
PEACE
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^^ I think the 'change in creation' is a psychological change, rather than a physical one. Physical makes no sense here.
So basically, psychological abuse (which COULD be a result of physical abuse) and the like/ "altering" God's creation in a regressive manner.
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^^ I think the 'change in creation' is a psychological change, rather than a physical one. Physical makes no sense here.
So basically, psychological abuse (which COULD be a result of physical abuse) and the like/ "altering" God's creation in a regressive manner.
Yes that could possibly be a better interpretation but I feel that the verse best suits CIRCUMCISION. It's something that is still practiced worldwide and the slitting of the cattles ear in the verse could be pointing to this.
PEACE
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Upon further thought I'm beginning to think I will go through with finishing my tattoos.
"And I will surely lead them astray, and I will certainly arouse desires in them, and I will definitely order them so they will pierce animals? ears, and I will definitely order them so they will alter Allah?s creation"; and whoever chooses the devil for a friend instead of Allah, has indeed suffered a manifest loss.
Reflecting on this verse I'm thinking it doesn't make sense that any physical changes to the body are meant here though it does mention the piercing of animals' ears because if the verse is meant to prohibit tattoos then it MUST prohibit any and all other forms of body modification from piercings to tattoos to coloring the hair to shaving. Surely those things alter our physical bodies but they can't all be sins. A literal interpretation of this verse is a blanket prohibition against changing the body in any way. I've definitely come to the conclusion that no verse in the Qur'an specifically prohibits tattoos but I will still keep in mind that I may be exceeding the limits and I'll give it a few years before I do my left arm to see if the tattoo bug is still there hehe
And if the hadith have even a hint of basis in truth then I shouldn't worry because another hadith says
(Sahih Muslim Book 32, Number 6220)
This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Abu Huraira (Radi Allah Anhu) with some addition (and it is this)
"Verily Allah does not look to your bodies nor to your faces but He looks to your hearts,"
And he pointed towards the heart with his fingers. -
I've definitely come to the conclusion that no verse in the Qur'an specifically prohibits tattoos but I will still keep in mind that I may be exceeding the limits and I'll give it a few years before I do my left arm to see if the tattoo bug is still there hehe
Salam jinn,
Here's wat i was thinking. Although there isn't any verse in the Holy Book that 'specifically' prohibits tattoos, there are other verses that give us an answer to the point in question. Have a lookDo not be like those who left their homes grudgingly, only to show off
"You shall not treat the people with arrogance, nor shall you roam the earth proudly. GOD does not like the arrogant showoffs.Since tattoos have no specific benefit other than 'showing off', to feel unique and stand apart from the crowd, the Holy Book does prohibit the showing off of ourself. It is better to be modest.
Overall, tattoos are not prohibited in the Quran. However, we need to decide for ourselves what would be socially appropriate not drawing too much attention.And if the hadith have even a hint of basis in truth then I shouldn't worry because another hadith says
(Sahih Muslim Book 32, Number 6220)
This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Abu Huraira (Radi Allah Anhu) with some addition (and it is this)
"Verily Allah does not look to your bodies nor to your faces but He looks to your hearts,"
And he pointed towards the heart with his fingers.The authority of the father of cats who has quoted more hadiths than is humanly possible (unless he lived 24/7 with the Prophet and had a voice recorder) is best left forgotten. Instead of being a servant of GOD, he seems to have had other plans
http//rlv.zcache.com/from_the_cats_fathers_day_card-p1370559323403396978g3x_325.jpg
Peace
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Salam jinn,
Here's wat i was thinking. Although there isn't any verse in the Holy Book that 'specifically' prohibits tattoos, there are other verses that give us an answer to the point in question. Have a lookDo not be like those who left their homes grudgingly, only to show off
"You shall not treat the people with arrogance, nor shall you roam the earth proudly. GOD does not like the arrogant showoffs.Since tattoos have no specific benefit other than 'showing off', to feel unique and stand apart from the crowd, the Holy Book does prohibit the showing off of ourself. It is better to be modest.
Evidence please? Going by your logic I guess make up would fall into this category or do you place an exception to that? The verse in question talks about walking the earth proudly which one cannot place a blanket prohibition on things, this is a big mistake unfortunately abused by scholars and the like.
Arrogance is something that is WITHIN you not OUTSIDE of you.
PEACE