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Some questions to which Quran only followers can't answr, basically they can't !

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    Alen
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    Peace be upon you,
    with all due Respect.

    I can't believe that thereformer got banned but then again i have received several dearth threats in person at the London Central Mosque so naturally i'm not surprised. This just confirms that sunnis are truly losing and I'm grateful to God The Most Merciful for guidance.

    God bless you.
    Peace.

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      ahh the death threats I do miss 'em.

      Why the Taliban do what they do.

      On the authority of Abdullah ibn Abbas that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "If you find anybody committing the act of the People of Lot (i.e. sodomy), then kill the one doing it and the one with whom it is done. voodoo" This hadith is recorded by Imam Ahmad, Imam Abu Dawud, and Imam At-Tirmidhi among others.

      Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri When the tribe of Bani Quraiza was ready to accept Sad's judgment, Allah's Apostle sent for Sad who was near to him. Sad came, riding a donkey and when he came near, Allah's Apostle said (to the Ansar), "Stand up for your leader." Then Sad came and sat beside Allah's Apostle who said to him. "These people are ready to accept your judgment." Sad said, "I give the judgment that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as prisoners." voodoo The Prophet then remarked, "O Sad! You have judged amongst them with (or similar to) the judgment of the King Allah. hypno" Bukhari

      Narrated Aisha No woman of Banu Qurayzah was killed except one. She was with me, talking and laughing on her back and belly (extremely), while the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) was killing her people with the swords. voodoo Suddenly a man called her name Where is so-and-so? She said I I asked What is the matter with you? She said I did a new act. She said The man took her and beheaded her. She said I will not forget that she was laughing extremely although she knew that she would be killed. hypno Abu Dawood

      Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, voodoo and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair. Abu Dawood

      Narrated Ibn Umar Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again). He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, nope but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa, the tribe of Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina. Bukhari

      "Awf ibn Malik reported that the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said, 'The Jews split into 71 sects one will enter Paradise and 70 will enter Hell. rotfl The Christians split into 72 sects 71 will enter Hell and one will enter Paradise. rotfl By Him in Whose hand is my soul, my Ummah will split into 73 sects one will enter Paradise and 72 will enter Hell.' Someone asked, 'O Messenger ofAllah (Peace be upon him), who will they be?' He replied, 'The main body of the Muslims rotfl(al-Jama'ah).' Awf ibn Malik is the only one who reported this Hadith, and its isnad is acceptable." And in another version of this Hadith the Prophet (Peace be upon him) goes onto say that the saved sect, "...Are those who follow my and my Sahaba's path" (Tirmidhi, vol. 2, pg. 89)

      Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ?Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ?Abbas who said, ?If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah?s Apostle forbade it, saying, ?Do not punish anybody with Allah?s punishment (fire).? I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah?s Apostle, ?Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him. voodoo Bukhari

      Allah's Apostle sent us in a mission (i.e. am army-unit) and said, "If you find so-and-so and so-and-so, burn both of them with fire." When we intended to depart, Allah's Apostle said, "I have ordered you to burn so-and-so and so-and-so, and it is none but Allah Who punishes with fire, so, if you find them, kill them." voodoo Bukhari

      Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' brickwall And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have." Bukhari

      Abu Musa said, ?I came to the Prophet along with two men (from the tribe) of Ash?ariyin, one on my right and the other on my left, while Allah?s Apostle was brushing his teeth (with a Siwak ), and both men asked him for some employment. The Prophet said, ?O Abu Musa (O ?Abdullah bin Qais!).? I said, ?By Him Who sent you with the Truth, these two men did not tell me what was in their hearts and I did not feel (realize) that they were seeking employment.? As if I were looking now at his Siwak being drawn to a corner under his lips, and he said, ?We never (or, we do not) appoint for our affairs anyone who seeks to be employed. But O Abu Musa! (or ?Abdullah bin Qais!) Go to Yemen.?? The Prophet then sent Mu?adh bin Jabal after him and when Mu?adh reached him, he spread out a cushion for him and requested him to get down (and sit on the cushion). Behold There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu?adh asked, ?Who is this (man)?? Abu Muisa said, ?He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.? Then Abu Muisa requested Mu?adh to sit down but Mu?adh said, ?I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, voodoo and he was killed. Abu Musa added, ?Then we discussed the night prayers and one of us said, ?I pray and sleep, and I hope that Allah will reward me for my sleep as well as for my prayers.?? Bukhari

      Some people from the tribe of ?Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die. '( Bukhari

      Imam Shafi, may Allah have mercy upon him, said the Imam is given the choice of killing the prisoners, showing them mercy, ransoming them or keeping them in bondage. tempt This issue has been confirmed and has been proven in our book 'Al Ahkam.' (Tafsir of the Qur'an by Ibn Kathir )

      According to the Qur'an a woman who has been captured by force falls in the category of a slave girl (kaniz). And because the Qur'an confines the use of force to the fighting (qital) in the way of God, thus according to the Qur'an a slave girl is that woman who falls in the hands of Muslims as a prisoner during the course of war waged in the way of God. nope (Maulana Maududi, Rasa'il wa Masa'il 3rd edition, Vol. III, p.102).

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas Ikrimah reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas, saying I think the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone's throw. rotfl ( Bukhari )

      'Umar b. Muhammad b. Zaid reported that he heard his father narrating from Ibn 'Umar that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had said. If bad luck is a fact, then it is in the horse, the woman and the house. rotfl(Bukhari)

      What do you expect from someone who says he is a strong follower of the "Sunnah".

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        eeeee by ekk thats good reading before bedtime o o &

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          Peace.

          These hadiths are .... i'm speechless.
          I honestly don't even know what to write.
          When i approach the sunnis with them, they simply say that i don't understand Arabic and that is it.

          God knows best.
          Peace.

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            Seeing how nobody else seems to have answered this, I will. The actual message of my post is fairly simple but seeing as you like stories, I hereby declare this time to be story time!

            As we know from physics, where there is resonance, a small vibration will be amplified and soon it will encompass the system. The stupid followers resonated with these small vibrations of disguised evil until it built momentum and eventually reinforced itself via human ignorance over the course of several generations, in the same manner that if you add a drop of red food colouring to a gallon of pure distilled water, it will turn a red colour. Another way to picture it which is perhaps more quranic is to imagine that every soul has a path, to get from A to B, south to north. Let's suppose that point B is a mountain far far away, yet barely visible. The easiest way to get from A=>B as geometry tells us, is a "straight path".

            Peace.

            Looks like you even got the basic physics wrong!

            The small vibration will NOT amplify unless you feed the vibration back to the input IN PHASE and send it through the system again and again. You have to satisfy positive feedback loop conditions. This grantees constructive interference pattern. Destructive interference will not sustain oscillation, in fact you will not even see a oscillation under this condition.

            Remember, natural resonance is inherent in the system. Therefore, resonance is always there. All you need to do is apply an external force that has the characteristic of natural resonance and a positive feedback loop, and you get amplification.

            You should apply the KISS methodology to describe your thought in the future. Don't use concept that you are not familiar with, do not underestimate the reader.

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              Looks like you even got the basic physics wrong!

              The small vibration will NOT amplify unless you feed the vibration back to the input IN PHASE and send it through the system again and again. You have to satisfy positive feedback loop conditions. This grantees constructive interference pattern. Destructive interference will not sustain oscillation, in fact you will not even see a oscillation under this condition.

              Remember, natural resonance is inherent in the system. Therefore, resonance is always there. All you need to do is apply an external force that has the characteristic of natural resonance and a positive feedback loop, and you get amplification.

              You should apply the KISS methodology to describe your thought in the future. Don't use concept that you are not familiar with, do not underestimate the reader.

              And the hadeethists didn't bleat in phase? You are a funny guy! Proving what I say in your own post and then trying to use it against me, what a joker you are. Unfortunately for you, I do know exactly what I am talking about here. And thanks for elaborating on my point, it's nice to have a second testimony.

              Consider the definition of resonance

              a vibration of large amplitude produced by a relatively small vibration near the same frequency of vibration as the natural frequency of the resonating system

              And a synonym of resonance in english, is

              rapport a relationship of mutual understanding or trust and agreement between people

              That is to say, if we say for instance "2+2 = 4" amongst a group of mathematicians, there will be a resonance between them. Or another one; the entire reason we are here is because carbon-12 can be formed because of the resonance between the energy states of the predecessor materials. Or in this context, if you put a bunch of disbelieving idiots in society together, they will collectively lead each other astray because of the resonance between them. In essence, ANYTHING able to cycle energy around a system and also bestowed with a "resonant frequency" will channel energy in a way to amplify things in its direction when it interacts with entities that correspond to that resonant frequency.

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                And the hadeethists didn't bleat in phase? You are a funny guy! Proving what I say in your own post and then trying to use it against me, what a joker you are. Unfortunately for you, I do know exactly what I am talking about here. And thanks for elaborating on my point, it's nice to have a second testimony.

                Consider the definition of resonance

                a vibration of large amplitude produced by a relatively small vibration near the same frequency of vibration as the natural frequency of the resonating system

                And a synonym of resonance in english, is

                rapport a relationship of mutual understanding or trust and agreement between people

                That is to say, if we say for instance "2+2 = 4" amongst a group of mathematicians, there will be a resonance between them. Or another one; the entire reason we are here is because carbon-12 can be formed because of the resonance between the energy states of the predecessor materials. Or in this context, if you put a bunch of disbelieving idiots in society together, they will collectively lead each other astray because of the resonance between them. In essence, ANYTHING able to cycle energy around a system and also bestowed with a "resonant frequency" will channel energy in a way to amplify things in its direction when it interacts with entities that correspond to that resonant frequency.

                The problem with your writing is this

                You said ?As we know from physics,??..?

                And physics is INCAPABLE of defining human being as a system. Thus you have no closed form solution for human system. Therefore, your resonance concept is flawed.

                If you hadn?t used the term ?physics? then there would have been some credibility.

                Physics makes natural observation and try to come up with a solution. They have no clue as to why the natural phenomenon exists. Newton observed gravitational phenomenon and provided us a solution. And we thought it was the truth. Then after 200 years it turns out to be false. Now people are working with different concept that may invalidate Ernestine theory. So what is the truth?

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                  There is only ONE absolute form of truth - manifest truth (al-Haqq). There is only ONE absolute speed (c). There is only ONE .

                  Physics is a means of narrowing down the boundaries of truth. Any purely rationalist science does this. It is not the end, it is a means to the end.

                  You are entitled to believe in anything UNTIL clear and manifest truth has come to you, showing your belief is incorrect. As soon as this happens, you have an immediate choice; submit to truth or be a disbeliever and inevitably fail at some point because you did not accept it.

                  From birth, you know nothing. Over the years, your parents condition you to believe things, some of which is manifest truth (e.g. "eat or you will die&quot, some of which is truth mixed with falsehood and some of which may be pure falsehood ("Jesus Christ is the Son of God&quot.

                  And physics is INCAPABLE of defining human being as a system. Thus you have no closed form solution for human system. Therefore, your resonance concept is flawed.

                  Give me a closed form solution for any system in the universe EXCEPT the universe itself, and I will show you a load of bollocks. It does not stop one from making observations however. Indeed, if you were to translate the quranic text into the language of physics, "disbelievers" are merely people that have a resonance that does not work in tune with "ALLAH" but also, they increase each other in disorder - because they resonate in disbelief.

                  Now this would be fine if "disbelievers" are all together because they will then resonate with each other and remove themselves from the planet very rapidly. However the problem is that they mingle with believers. When love mixes with hate, there is a complex chaotic interaction and we are seeing its result today. I have full certainty however that love will overpower such silly forces.

                  If we have a stream and the water is moving fluidly (motion easily calculated), then we place some machines that somehow 1.) turn the flow into chaotic flow (arbitrarily difficult to solve for) and 2.) resonate with each other (amplify #1 for each of them), then when these things are near each other, there will be massive chaos. Even if some of the water retains fluidity, the majority is in chaos. The end result however even with the chaos is the inevitable erosion of these machines and the restoring of fluid motion.

                  Physics makes natural observation and try to come up with a solution. They have no clue as to why the natural phenomenon exists. Newton observed gravitational phenomenon and provided us a solution. And we thought it was the truth. Then after 200 years it turns out to be false. Now people are working with different concept that may invalidate Ernestine theory. So what is the truth?

                  Actually you are incorrect, you have no grasp as to how physics works. People who have no grasp of how it works always ask this exact same question. Don't take it personally.

                  The truth is this - Newton came up with a theory and it can be summed up in 1 equation
                  http//upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/8/9/0895ea144b9cfe117978c567c2a7a500.png

                  This basically says "if we have a car (1) going at 50mph east and (2) going 50mph west then the total speed is 100mph)
                  This was correct but ONLY for all intents and purposes at that time.

                  A few years later, Einstein came along. Now he says
                  http//upload.wikimedia.org/math/2/0/3/2035aab1ba5af2e1ff296512b6a57779.png

                  As we take the limit of (v+u) to 0 (and away from c, the speed of light), this reduces down to
                  http//upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/8/9/0895ea144b9cfe117978c567c2a7a500.png

                  Newton's equation was "truth mixed with falsehood". Einstein PROVED the truth in Newton's equation and DISPROVED the falsehood. This, people, is physics in action.

                  There is only ONE absolute form of truth - manifest truth (al-Haqq). There is only ONE absolute speed (c). There is only ONE .

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                    There is only ONE absolute form of truth - manifest truth (al-Haqq). There is only ONE absolute speed (c). There is only ONE .

                    I disagree with you on the absolute speed (c) because of the following

                    704 - The angels, with their reports, climb to Him in a day that equals fifty thousand years.

                    2740 - The one who possessed knowledge from the book said, "I can bring it to you in the blink of your eye." When he saw it settled in front of him, he said, "This is a blessing from my Lord, whereby He tests me, to show whether I am appreciative or unappreciative. Whoever is appreciative is appreciative for his own good, and if one turns unappreciative, then my Lord is in no need for him, Most Honorable."

                    5450 - Our commands are done within the blink of an eye.

                    Also, radiation particle travel faster than C in water.

                    You are entitled to believe in anything UNTIL clear and manifest truth has come to you, showing your belief is incorrect. As soon as this happens, you have an immediate choice; submit to truth or be a disbeliever and inevitably fail at some point because you did not accept it.

                    Truth is always there. It is built into us. It doesn?t come to you. A reminder comes to us.

                    Give me a closed form solution for any system in the universe EXCEPT the universe itself, and I will show you a load of bollocks.

                    Closed form solution does not exist. That?s why your resonance theory is flawed. Ask the Physics people to give you the solution and watch how quickly they go belly up.

                    Actually you are incorrect, you have no grasp as to how physics works.

                    Ask your master to tell you where the elements of periodic table comes from. See, Allah has limited us, we cannot see beyond those elements.

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                      For #1, see this 325 - He regulates the affair from the heaven to the earth; then shall it ascend to Him in a day the measure of which is a thousand years of what you count.

                      Even ALLAH accepts the truth of relativity.

                      For #2, I will not say anything about that. God knows best.

                      #3, that verse is supremely interesting. I'll say no more at this time. Thanks for the reference.

                      Also, the speed c is not that of light but rather, information/truth. The speed of light is exceedable in an illusory manner but the speed of information is not.

                      Truth is always there. It is built into us. It doesnt come to you. A reminder comes to us.

                      Semantics.

                      Closed form solution does not exist. Thats why your resonance theory is flawed. Ask the Physics people to give you the solution and watch how quickly they go belly up.

                      You are still concentrating on the ins and outs of resonance. The Jews loved to ask about the ins and outs of the she camel, trying to avoid the whole point of the she camel. That is until Allah came in and toasted them.

                      Ask your master to tell you where the elements of periodic table comes from. See, Allah has limited us, we cannot see beyond those elements.

                      If scientists had never found the periodic table (via ALLAH's guidance), you would not even be able to ask this question. So this is a logical fallacy.

                      Also, ALLAH is not light itself. Rather, ALLAH is he who created light.

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