Sister of Aaron
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Son of God is used in the Bible in many ways.
clear example of the term "Son of God" being used in Jewish scripture is that Prophet Solomon (peace be with him) is called "Son of God" in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), and is even quoted by God as saying he is His Son, in the book 1 Chronicles.
The relevent passages are these
1 Chronicles, chapter 17
11 When your days are fulfilled to go to be with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring after you, one of your own sons, and I will establish his kingdom.
12 He shall build a house for me, and I will establish his throne for ever.13 I will be his Father, and he shall be my Son; I will not take my steadfast love from him, as I took it from him who was before you,
14 but I will confirm him in my house and in my kingdom for ever and his throne shall be established for ever.'"
15 In accordance with all these words, and in accordance with all this vision, Nathan spoke to David.
Therefore, this passage quotes God as saying that, regarding one of David's sons, "I will be his Father, and he shall be my Son" (capitals added, the way is usually done by Christians).
Who is this son of David, who will be the "Son of God" ? This is made clear in two later passages in 1 Chronicles.1 Chronicles, chapter 22
7 David said to Solomon, "My son, I had it in my heart to build a house to the name of the LORD my God.
8 But the word of the LORD came to me, saying, `You have shed much blood and have waged great wars; you shall not build a house to my name, because you have shed so much blood before me upon the earth.9 Behold, a son shall be born to you; he shall be a man of peace. I will give him peace from all his enemies round about; for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quiet to Israel in his days.
10 He shall build a house for my name. He shall be my Son, and I will be his Father, and I will establish his royal throne in Israel for ever.'
11 Now, my son, the LORD be with you, so that you may succeed in building the house of the LORD your God, as he has spoken concerning you.
In the first underlined section, David repeats the words of God (according to the Hebrew Bible), that the person referred to will be the "Son of God."
The second underlined part shows that the person who will be the "Son of God" is "you," that is, Solomon, to whom David is speaking.Finally, here is the third and last passage....
1 Chronicles, chapter 28
3 But God said to me, `You may not build a house for my name, for you are a warrior and have shed blood.'
4 Yet the LORD God of Israel chose me from all my father's house to be king over Israel for ever; for he chose Judah as leader, and in the house of Judah my father's house, and among my father's sons he took pleasure in me to make me king over all Israel.5 And of all my sons (for the LORD has given me many sons) he has chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel.
6 He said to me, `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father.
7 I will establish his kingdom for ever if he continues resolute in keeping my commandments and my ordinances, as he is today.'
Son of God
Many passages in the Jewish Scriptures, which Christians call the Old Testament, describe the people of Israel as God?s son or child (Exod 422,23; Jer 3120; Hos 111), or declare how God has been a father to the people (Deut 326; Isa 64. These expressions show the special relationship God has with his chosen people. But the title, ?son of God,? is also given to an unnamed king of Israel (Ps 27). God said that King David is ?my first-born son, and he will be the ruler of all kings on earth? (Ps 8927). David is also told that one of his children would be God?s son (2 Sam 714; 1 Chr 1713). The later prophets spoke of the faithful members of the people of Israel as God?s children (Isa 436; Hos 110).
In the New Testament Gospels, Jesus is the only true Son of God, as is declared by the voice from heaven at his baptism (Luke 322). The religious leaders who wanted to have him put to death asked him if he was the Son of God, and he said that he was (Mark 1461,62). The Gospel writers show that even the devil recognizes Jesus as Son of God (Luke 41-12), and the demons that he brought under control do so as well (Mark 311; 57).Most important is the direct claim of Jesus in Luke 1021,22 to be the Son of God who has been given God?s wisdom, which he shares with those who trust him as one sent by God. Before Jesus was born, he was identified by the angel as the Son of God (Luke 132-35). Matthew 215 quotes Hosea 111, which speaks of God bringing his Son back from Egypt. Paul wrote that Jesus is by human birth the son of David, but he is now Son of God, because God raised him from the dead (Rom 13,4; see also Gal 220). The author of John?s Gospel wrote that Jesus is the Son of God (John 114) who was sent by God into the world to save his people from their sins (John 316,17). He does God?s work in the world (John 1034-36), and is one with God (John 171, 22). And it is because of what the Son has done that people who put their faith in him can also claim ?the right to be children of God (John 111-13).
You also did not seem to take attention to what I said before about Paul's use of the term Law. What Law do you think Paul meant?
Yes, that is the hebrew bible though, not the New Testament which refers to Jesus having no father only a mother. This is a different concept of Son of God. She gives birth to him through the Holy Spirit. This is literally the Son of God.
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God's law of course, or the Torah. Then why does he say those who follow the law are under a curse?
And why do Paul and James both refer to each other as those who preach a perverted gospel, (who could this possibly have been, preaching a perverted gospel, it could not have been non Jesus following Jews) And who would Peter be referring to when he refers to someone as the man who is my enemy preaching a lawless and absurd doctrine? (Peter's epistle to James) Peter and James both reviled Paul.
http//books.google.ca/books?id=Tlvgp7WggvEC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=Peter+the+man+who+is+my+enemy&source=bl&ots=oT4fs1uy8N&sig=FWf2rvLDuMTkjwMdH2dXXmnCySE&hl=en&ei=FLk2TL-iEcP-8Abj1e2PAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Peter%20the%20man%20who%20is%20my%20enemy&f=false
Well perhaps its not the Torah, it could be God's Law outside the Torah, as revealed and inspired to Paul in the altering vision he speaks of when he receives the vision from the Christ. He was constantly faced with ethical and moral dilemmas from his gentile flock since they were told not to rely on the Torah, of whom he believed is something that the cursed rely on, and for which the time for relying on is over. This is all in Galatians, that the time of following the Torah is over, and that the Law was a curse upon the Jews for their transgressions.
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Well perhaps its not the Torah, it could be God's Law outside the Torah, as revealed and inspired to Paul in the altering vision he speaks of when he receives the vision from the Christ. He was constantly faced with ethical and moral dilemmas from his gentile flock since they were told not to rely on the Torah, of whom he believed is something that the cursed rely on, and for which the time for relying on is over. This is all in Galatians, that the time of following the Torah is over, and that the Law was a curse upon the Jews for their transgressions.
There is some truth to that. Anyways you seem to mean the Law is about the OT Laws. This is actually consistent with both the Gospel and Koran which sees Laws of a human nature as having a purpose. A purpose that can change. For example the Koran and the Sabbath. I thought you meant Divine Laws like adultery, polytheism, lying and betrayal and so on. I thought you meant Paul did not believe God's Laws should be followed. Of course Paul would never say that. WE must seperate between God's Laws, which remain consistent, and Human Laws which can change depending on circumstances.
The Sects claim every prophet coms with his own laws that abrogates the previous. This is nonsense since every prophet had a different biography. But God's Laws never change. The "Sunnah" of the prophets" can change. But God's Sunnah never changes. As the Koran says.
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The miracles, virgin birth, etc are all mentioned in the Lost Gospels. The Gospel of the Nativity of Mary tells her life and the virgin conception. The Gospel of Infancy which is attributed to Thomas (there is also one from Matthew and others) tells of Jesus miracles form an early age AND of speaking from the cradle - so does Quran. Still searching and reading on these but SO MUCH is making more sense now and relating to Quran.
Both the infancy gospel of James and the infancy gospel of Thomas date to at least the 2nd century, the Gospel of Thomas is said to be from perhaps as even as late as the 3rd century. The earliest possible date of the gospel of Thomas is 80 C.E., but most scholars agree it was written in the second century.
Both of the following links have citations for their claims about dates.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_James
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas
The infancy gospel of James is dated to approximately 150 C.E. James died in 62. This work attributed to him was penned 88 years after his death. There is a very good chance all the original disciples were dead by then. Thus, they would not be alive to contest that this infancy gospel was not written or spoken of by him. All works of his which scholars do not doubt were written by him, do not mention anything about any kind of miracles.
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For the record I am not denying the miracles of Isa, nor the virgin birth of Isa by Miriam sister of Harun and daughter of Imraan. I am trying to determine whether Yeshua and Isa are the same person. The Qu'ran mentions Zechariyah and twelve disciples as well, with Zechariyah being Mariam's protector and the twelve disciples as Allah's helpers. Was this the Zechariyah spoken of shortly before the birth of Yeshua, or another Zechariyah hundreds years back, and I have the same question about the twelve disciples.
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The Qu'ran mentions Zechariyah and twelve disciples as well, with Zechariyah being Mariam's protector and the twelve disciples as Allah's helpers.
Qur'aan nowhere confirms such ridiculous stories of 12 disciples. Do not make such wild statements without first confirming and seeing it in Qur'aan.
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Qur'aan nowhere confirms such ridiculous stories of 12 disciples. Do not make such wild statements without first confirming and seeing it in Qur'aan.
You're right, the number 12 was my mistake.
Falamma ahassa AAeesa minhumu alkufra qala man ansaree ila Allahi qala alhawariyyoona nahnu ansaru Allahi amanna biAllahi waishhad bi-anna muslimoona
Generally Accepted Translations of the Meaning...
Abdel Haleem When Jesus realized they did not believe, he said, ?Who will help me in God?s cause?? The disciples said, ?We will be God?s helpers; we believe in God- witness our devotion to Him.
Abdul Majid Daryabadi Then when 'Isa perceived in them infidelity, he said who will be my helpers unto Allah! The disciples said; we are helpers of Allah; we believe in Allah and bear thou witness that verily we are Muslims.
Ahmed Ali So when Jesus felt (with one of his five physical senses) from them the disbelief, he said "Who (are) my victoriors/saviors/supporters to God?" The Disciples/victoriors said "We (are) God's victoriors/supporters, we believed with God, and (you) be a witness with that we are submitters/surrenderers."
Aisha Bewley When ?Isa sensed kufr on their part, he said, ?Who will be my helpers to Allah?? The disciples said, ?We are Allah's helpers. We believe in Allah. Bear witness that we are Muslims.
Ali ?nal (Having preached his message in this way for a long time) Jesus perceived their willful persistence on unbelief (and open hostility), and called out "Who will be my helpers (on this way) to God?" The disciples answered "We are the helpers of God(?s cause). We believe in God, and (we call you to) bear witness that we are Muslims (submitted to Him exclusively).
Ali Quli Qara'i And when Jesus sensed their faithlessness, he said, ?Who will be my helpers toward Allah?? The Disciples said, ?We will be helpers of Allah. We have faith in Allah, and bear witness that we are muslims.
Amatul Rahman Omar But when Jesus felt disbelief on their part (and thought his people would renounce him,) he said,Who are my helpers (in calling the people) towards Allah?' The disciples said,We are the helpers (in the cause) of Allah. We have believed in Allah. Bear witness that, we are the submitting ones (to His will).'
Muhammad Asad And when Jesus became aware of their refusal to acknowledge the truth, he asked "Who will be my helpers in God's cause?" The white-garbed ones replied "We shall be helpers of God! We believe in God and bear thou witness that we have surrendered ourselves unto Him!
But when ?Isa could sense that disbelief was a very prevalent inclination among them, he asked "Who will support me in the cause of Allah?" We are supporters of the cause of Allah, said the disciples, "We have believed in Allah to the point that our hearts have been impressed with the image of religious and spiritual virtues. We hold you as a witness to our conformity to Islam, the will of Allah".
So when Jesus felt their rejection, he said "Who are my supporters to God" The disciples said "We are God's supporters, we believe in God and we bear witness that we have surrendered."
M. M. Pickthall But when Jesus became conscious of their disbelief, he cried Who will be my helpers in the cause of Allah? The disciples said We will be Allah's helpers. We believe in Allah, and bear thou witness that we have surrendered (unto Him).
Faridul Haque So when Eisa sensed their disbelief he said, ?Who will be my aides towards (in the cause of) Allah?? The disciples said, ?We are the aides of Allah?s religion; we believe in Allah, and you bear witness that we are Muslims.?
Hamid S. Aziz And when Jesus perceived their unbelief, He said, "Who will be my helpers in the cause of Allah?" The disciples said, "We will be Allah's helpers. We believe in Allah, so bear you witness that we have surrendered (unto Him).
Shakir But when Isa perceived unbelief on their part, he said Who will be my helpers in Allah's way? The disciples said We are helpers (in the way) of Allah We believe in Allah and bear witness that we are submitting ones.
Hasan Al-Fatih Qaribullah When (Prophet) Jesus felt their disbelief, he said 'Who will be my helpers in the way of Allah? ' The disciples replied 'We are the helpers of Allah. We believe in Allah. Bear witness that we are submitters (Muslims).
Muhammad Ahmed - Samira When Jesus perceived their unbelief he asked "Who will help me in the way of God?" "We," the disciples answered, "shall be the helpers of God. We believe in God; and you be our witness that we submit and obey.
Yusuf Ali When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said "Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?" Said the disciples "We are Allah's helpers We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.
Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali So, as soon as Isa (Jesus) perceived disbelief among them, he said, "Who are my ready vindicators to Allah?" (i.e., in the cause of Allah) The Disciples said, " We are the ready vindicators to Allah; we have believed in Allah, and bear (you) witness that we are Muslims.
Muhammad Sarwar When Jesus found them denying the truth, he said, "Who will help me in the cause of God?" The disciples replied, "We are the helpers of God. We believe in Him. Jesus, bear witness that we have submitted ourselves to His will."
Muhammad Taqi Usmani So, when ?Isa sensed disbelief in them, he said .Who are my helpers in the way of Allah?. The disciples said .We are helpers of Allah. We believe in Allah; so be our witness that we are Muslims.
Syed Vickar Ahamed When Isa (Jesus) found disbelief on their part, he said "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) Allah?" The disciples said "We are Allah?s helpers We believe in Allah, and do you bear witness that we are Muslims.
Umm Muhammad (Sahih International) But when Jesus felt disbelief from them, he said, "Who are my supporters for Allah ?" The disciples said," We are supporters for Allah . We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims .
Farook Malik And when Jesus became aware of their refusal to acknowledge the truth, he asked "Who will be my helpers in God's cause?" The white-garbed ones replied "We shall be helpers of God! We believe in God and bear thou witness that we have surrendered ourselves unto Him!
Controversial, deprecated, or status undetermined works...
Bijan Moeinian When Jesus felt public?s resentment, he said ?Who will support me in my Devine mission?? His disciples replied ?We consider ourselves helpers of God. We believe in God; we are Muslims (Muslim in Arabic means submitter to God.)
Maulana Muhammad Ali But when Jesus perceived disbelief on their part, he said Who will be my helpers in Allah?s way? The disciples said We are Allah?s helpers we believe in Allah, and bear thou witness that we are submitting ones.
Shabbir Ahmed This is what the angels had told Mary. When Jesus grew up He was commissioned to Prophethood. As he sensed their rejection, he called, "Who are my supporters towards Allah?" The disciples said, "We are Allah's supporters, we believe in Allah and bear witness that we are those who submit to Him."
Sher Ali And when Jesus perceived their disbelief, he said,Who will be my helpers in the cause of ALLAH?' The disciples answered,We are the helpers of ALLAH. We have believed in ALLAH. And bear thou witness that we are obedient;
Yusuf Ali (org.) When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said "Who will be My helpers to (the work of) God?" Said the disciples "We are God's helpers We believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.
Rashad Khalifa When Jesus sensed their disbelief, he said, "Who are my supporters towards GOD?" The disciples said, "We are GOD's supporters; we believe in GOD, and bear witness that we are submitters."
Non-Muslim and/or Orientalist works...
Arthur John Arberry And when Jesus perceived their unbelief, he said, 'Who will be my helpers unto God?' The Apostles said, 'We will be helpers of God; we believe in God; witness thou our submission.
Edward Henry Palmer And when Jesus perceived their unbelief, He said, 'Who are my helpers for God?' Said the apostles, 'We are God's helpers. We believe in God, so bear witness that we are resigned.
George Sale But when Jesus perceived their unbelief, he said, who will be my helpers towards God? The apostles answered, we will be the helpers of God; we believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are true believers.
John Medows Rodwell And when Jesus perceived unbelief on their part, He said, "Who my helpers with God?" The apostles said, "We will be God's helpers! We believe in God, and bear thou witness that we are Muslims. -
Both the infancy gospel of James and the infancy gospel of Thomas date to at least the 2nd century, the Gospel of Thomas is said to be from perhaps as even as late as the 3rd century. The earliest possible date of the gospel of Thomas is 80 C.E., but most scholars agree it was written in the second century.
Both of the following links have citations for their claims about dates.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_James
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas
The infancy gospel of James is dated to approximately 150 C.E. James died in 62. This work attributed to him was penned 88 years after his death. There is a very good chance all the original disciples were dead by then. Thus, they would not be alive to contest that this infancy gospel was not written or spoken of by him. All works of his which scholars do not doubt were written by him, do not mention anything about any kind of miracles.
it said 'probably' dated 150 CE, wiki is not a great source as anyone can edit there, however, if you read wiki regarding the Gospel of John that also says "There is credible evidence that the Gospel was written no later than the middle of the second century. " It also is unsure, as with any of the others, whether it was actually written BY John.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John
I dont think there is one that can be dated without possible error to the actual time of Jesus and the Nag Hamadi scrolls have brought forth many of the pieces of the lost gospels which are worth reading.
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Thanks Ak85,
I am sure you could lay hand on another 100 such translations and explanations. They conveniently overlooked being under heavy veil of widespread gossips of disciples. A person can be called "disciple" only when he has accepted and followed a person, not before that. Once they believed they became Muslims, yet they retained their physical identity as Al-Hawariyun, as they are called in 5112 after having become Muslims. How could they be referred or translated as "Disciples"?. They were Al-Hawariyun before arrival of Easa alahissalam and afterwards also. Our respects and salam to them, our Muslim elders.
http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.52bc.gif
Al-Hawariyun replied, "We all are the helpers of Allah .
http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/061.%20As%20Saff/Temp%2001%2061.14.gif
Resultantly/thereby a Group believed from amongst Bani Iesraa'eel and the other Group refused to accept/believe.Bani Iesraa'eel stood divided in two groups; one becoming believers/Muslims the other group-majority refusing and becoming Kaafir, at that point in time.
Surat As Saff-61
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it said 'probably' dated 150 CE, wiki is not a great source as anyone can edit there, however, if you read wiki regarding the Gospel of John that also says "There is credible evidence that the Gospel was written no later than the middle of the second century. " It also is unsure, as with any of the others, whether it was actually written BY John.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John
I dont think there is one that can be dated without possible error to the actual time of Jesus and the Nag Hamadi scrolls have brought forth many of the pieces of the lost gospels which are worth reading.
Yes, and it also provided references for its statements on the dates. Did you notice the number after the statement on dates? That number is the citation for the reference.
The Nag Hammadi scrolls are the Coptic secret sayings of Jesus, correct? If this is true, what miracles are quoted in these sayings? Miracles that are actually refuted by the Qu'ran...These are the same sayings which Gnostics follow, which deny that the God in the Torah is the real God, and that this lesser God botched creation because this terrible world we live in could not have been created by The True God. And there is a true God above this lesser God, who is described as harsh and inferior (the lesser God of the Torah) to the True God. And that Jesus was sent by this True God to save us from this harsh world by planting the seed of knowledge in us, that this world is a carcass created by a lesser God. "Whoever knows this world, will discover a carcass (something along those lines)" Many times they refer to the God of the Torah as being "harsh and inferior" and even deluded and "jealous", when they attack the phrase saying "No other God besides God."
Google Gnosticism, don't take my word for it.
As for the dates, this is not what some random typed, this is the opinion of biblical scholars, who date this gospel to 150 C.E. I heard of this even before I came across this wiki page from another biblical scholar (how do I know biblical scholars? A course I'm taking is taught by one, www.barriewilson.com) but used this wiki page to have something to reference as to my assertion that according to scholars, this gospel is dated to 150 C.E. There are more references on the bottom of the page, where biblical scholars also discuss and argue why they believe this gospel is from the mid second century.
The Nag Hammadi secret sayings of Jesus also propose a docetic view of Jesus if I'm not mistaken, docetic view means that he appeared human but was not actually human...
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Thanks Ak85,
I am sure you could lay hand on another 100 such translations and explanations. They conveniently overlooked being under heavy veil of widespread gossips of disciples. A person can be called "disciple" only when he has accepted and followed a person, not before that. Once they believed they became Muslims, yet they retained their physical identity as Al-Hawariyun, as they are called in 5112 after having become Muslims. How could they be referred or translated as "Disciples"?. They were Al-Hawariyun before arrival of Easa alahissalam and afterwards also. Our respects and salam to them, our Muslim elders.
http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.52bc.gif
Al-Hawariyun replied, "We all are the helpers of Allah .
http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/061.%20As%20Saff/Temp%2001%2061.14.gif
Resultantly/thereby a Group believed from amongst Bani Iesraa'eel and the other Group refused to accept/believe.Bani Iesraa'eel stood divided in two groups; one becoming believers/Muslims the other group-majority refusing and becoming Kaafir, at that point in time.
Surat As Saff-61
Thank you for this clarification.
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Yes, and it also provided references for its statements on the dates. Did you notice the number after the statement on dates? That number is the citation for the reference.
The Nag Hammadi scrolls are the Coptic secret sayings of Jesus, correct? If this is true, what miracles are quoted in these sayings? Miracles that are actually refuted by the Qu'ran...These are the same sayings which Gnostics follow, which deny that the God in the Torah is the real God, and that this lesser God botched creation because this terrible world we live in could not have been created by The True God. And there is a true God above this lesser God, who is described as harsh and inferior (the lesser God of the Torah) to the True God. And that Jesus was sent by this True God to save us from this harsh world by planting the seed of knowledge in us, that this world is a carcass created by a lesser God. "Whoever knows this world, will discover a carcass (something along those lines)" Many times they refer to the God of the Torah as being "harsh and inferior" and even deluded and "jealous", when they attack the phrase saying "No other God besides God."
Google Gnosticism, don't take my word for it.
As for the dates, this is not what some random typed, this is the opinion of biblical scholars, who date this gospel to 150 C.E. I heard of this even before I came across this wiki page from another biblical scholar (how do I know biblical scholars? A course I'm taking is taught by one, www.barriewilson.com) but used this wiki page to have something to reference as to my assertion that according to scholars, this gospel is dated to 150 C.E. There are more references on the bottom of the page, where biblical scholars also discuss and argue why they believe this gospel is from the mid second century.
The Nag Hammadi secret sayings of Jesus also propose a docetic view of Jesus if I'm not mistaken, docetic view means that he appeared human but was not actually human...
I confess to not having read everything I found yet, only latched onto these a couple of weeks ago peace
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Thank you for this clarification.
I have been reading Kamal Salibi's blog, and in it he says that Hawariyun means "white." Dr. Salibi says this may refer to the fact they wore white clothes.
I found another site which says the root word is Hara, which means white. The website I'm putting forward says calling them Hawariyun i.e. the white ones may refer to "pureness" of their minds (I am not one to say white skin means pure and those who are not white skinned are not pure, please whoever is reading this do not draw this implication from me, not out of suspicion of other's understanding am I stating this but simply to clarify)
This actually helps with your assertion, as this group who's minds and souls were pure agreed to be his helpers, and those who's minds and souls were blackened rejected him
http//books.google.ca/books?id=yaGwFWCQb4MC&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq=al+hawariyun&source=bl&ots=YSeddHno1q&sig=zwXNQ0tP-__iOHHBDOM1Oj5w07M&hl=en&ei=RZw9TNyxAoP_8Abp0pimBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=al%20hawariyun&f=false
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according to the following page, it is "taifatun" which is translated as "a group" in 6114, and "hawariyun" is translated as disciples in this same page as well. I have been looking for something else which discusses "hara" and its definition but cannot find anything
http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=61&verse=14#%28611428%29
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according to the following page, it is "taifatun" which is translated as "a group" in 6114, and "hawariyun" is translated as disciples in this same page as well. I have been looking for something else which discusses "hara" and its definition but cannot find anything
http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=61&verse=14#%28611428%29
Do you mean the verb which is written as , perfect, third person, singular, intransitive.