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those who die as children

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    Alen
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    Peace,
    Respect.

    I also have never heard of reincarnation from The Quran.
    However, I think/believe - God knows best, Thank God - that in some cases, people around those babies and kids who die prematurely, are responsible for their premature death, God knows best.

    Look at it like this if parents are on crack and they drink alcohol, smoke and live on the streets, then what chances does this baby have to even come out of such a mother alive????? & She will get pregnant, due to their fornication, deliver and maybe even die, God forbid and maybe the child will die, God forbid but that's because - just my view - she was smoking, drinking booze, doing drugs and living on the edge.

    And then if we add to all that junk food, stress, depression, this, that, third and I don't know what else, well, it is a miracle that a baby would be alive and healthy and survive, let alone become a righteous person. Would such a baby grow into a bad person due to bad DNA start? God knows best and may God help us all.

    Peace.

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      nerspi
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      I believe there are posts about quran and reincarnation and from reading those posts my stance so far is that the quran does not support the notion of reincarnation.

      One earthly life/one chance is what we get. The dilemma of babies dying/mentally ill people is something that I'm still trying to work out but I guess patience and study of the quran would be the right direction to take.

      PEACE

      interesting how people see different things from the same reading...
      just like some see physical ritual salat, others don't...

      1 life? 1 chance? ( that don't sound much fair...
      besides, there's other things written about reincarnation, should we not believe it just because it's not mentioned in quran?
      should we disregard it as say 'ah people just write that bs to sell more books' ... which is not a good excuse anyway, same can be said for doctors for example...

      ok i'm 24, what if i die today... and i did some bad things so far, but hey, maybe i would have done some good things later in life, i could have become better... i wasn't given more time as that other guy who lived to be over 100... great, now i gotta go to hell, blast...

      Peace,
      Respect.

      I also have never heard of reincarnation from The Quran.
      However, I think/believe - God knows best, Thank God - that in some cases, people around those babies and kids who die prematurely, are responsible for their premature death, God knows best.

      Look at it like this if parents are on crack and they drink alcohol, smoke and live on the streets, then what chances does this baby have to even come out of such a mother alive????? & She will get pregnant, due to their fornication, deliver and maybe even die, God forbid and maybe the child will die, God forbid but that's because - just my view - she was smoking, drinking booze, doing drugs and living on the edge.

      And then if we add to all that junk food, stress, depression, this, that, third and I don't know what else, well, it is a miracle that a baby would be alive and healthy and survive, let alone become a righteous person. Would such a baby grow into a bad person due to bad DNA start? God knows best and may God help us all.

      Peace.

      well we do become products of our environment, but why should kids that die young be judged the same as someone who lived longer... ok lets say there's no reincarnation and there really is only 1 life on earth here...
      first of all, what's the point of someone living only a few years here....
      and second, how are they judged? compared to someone who's been good all their life, 60,70 years... are they equal?

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        Wakas
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        This question has been soundly answered and proven here
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597884.msg235397#msg235397

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          AK85
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          This question has been soundly answered and proven here
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597884.msg235397#msg235397

          Thanks Wakas.

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            foralgerian
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            Peace,

            This is indeed an interesting topic, that I thought about sometimes ago.

            My understanding is that we cannot enter paradise without being tested

            Quran 3142
            Or did you think that you would enter Paradise without God knowing those who would strive amongst you and knowing those who are patient?

            It is clear from this verse that a child from our point of view has not done enough to earn paradise!
            The problem with this verse is that God already knows who are striving and those who are patient, and I believe that this is about the spirit that is in us ( Rouh in arabic) rather than the human body.

            Let us put things clearly, the spirit that was breath into us humans, comes from God and it's eternal, as God is eternal, has no beginning and no end, and so is our spirit.

            Quran
            So when I perfect him, and blow of My spirit in him, you shall submit to him."

            Now saying this, simply means that we've always existed as spiritual entities and we continue as such eternally.
            Spirit doesn't die , no beginning and no end.

            I'm not a believer of reincarnation, but the issue of children raise a specific question.
            when we look at the following verse.

            Quran
            And know that your money and your children are a test, and that God Has the greatest reward.

            This tells us simply that children are part of a test.

            First children who die as such are not tested but are themselves a test for their parents.
            When a child die ( spiritually alive) God might decide to send him back as a new born to the same couple of any other.

            As a conclusion
            we only enter Heaven or hell once we've been tested ( Spiritually speaking)

            Best regards

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