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    ayman
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    Peace Mazhar,

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    It is certain that Allah and His Angels send blessings upon the Distinctly Elevated and Chosen One

    ....

    ...
    Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him .

    Is the above statement a narration of a fact or a conjecture, lie?

    Sorry to be the first to tell you this but unfortunately the original Arabic is a conjecture, lie. Moreover, your translation "Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him " is incomplete. What happened to " "? Why did you cut it off and not translate it?

    Can you please translate the complete statement so that you and everyone can see for sure if it is a lie as I am 100% sure or not?

    Peace and all best wishes,

    Ayman

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      Mazhar
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      Sorry to be the first to tell you this but unfortunately the original Arabic is a conjecture, lie. Moreover, your translation "Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him " is incomplete.

      Allah's and Angel's and mine curse is upon Aymen, the Munafiq who calls it a conjecture. The Qur'aan is full of statements that Allah blessed him, Allah helped him.

      Can you please translate the complete statement so that you and everyone can see for sure if it is a lie as I am 100% sure or not?

      Typical style of a Munafiq, Allah says Munafiq is conveniently recognized by his way and style of talking. The grammer and meanings of first part was given to the questioner with comparison to the verse pasted above. Why a Munafiq does not translate the Arabic sentence at his own to show it a lie, since he knows it is truth but talks like this to deceive those who do not know Arabic.

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        san
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        Allah's and Angel's and mine curse is upon Aymen, the Munafiq who calls it a conjecture. The Qur'aan is full of statements that Allah blessed him, Allah helped him.

        you mean this Aymen?
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        btw, is it an example of following Qur'aan, cursing?

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          Ayisha
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          Allah's and Angel's and mine curse is upon Aymen, the Munafiq who calls it a conjecture. The Qur'aan is full of statements that Allah blessed him, Allah helped him.

          Typical style of a Munafiq, Allah says Munafiq is conveniently recognized by his way and style of talking. The grammer and meanings of first part was given to the questioner with comparison to the verse pasted above. Why a Munafiq does not translate the Arabic sentence at his own to show it a lie, since he knows it is truth but talks like this to deceive those who do not know Arabic.

          I assume that was not the translation?

          Ayman, welcome to the exclusive Munafiq club, I was feeling a bit lonely but i'm sure as this goes on there will be others cast in here with us welcome

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            Mazhar
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            It is true that We have sent for you people in writing/Book in the contents of which/Grand Qur'aan there is mention of you people
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            Is it for reason that you do not ponder/use intellect to differentiate?

            Surat-21

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              Peace Mazhar,

              Allah's and Angel's and mine curse is upon Aymen, the Munafiq who calls it a conjecture. The Qur'aan is full of statements that Allah blessed him, Allah helped him.
              Typical style of a Munafiq, Allah says Munafiq is conveniently recognized by his way and style of talking. The grammer and meanings of first part was given to the questioner with comparison to the verse pasted above. Why a Munafiq does not translate the Arabic sentence at his own to show it a lie, since he knows it is truth but talks like this to deceive those who do not know Arabic.

              I thought that you were better than a typical wild eyed dogmatic big bearded Sunni Mullah. I thought you had more patience and humbleness. I guess I might have been wrong on this account.

              You are claiming that you are saying " " based on the command in 3356. Here is how you translated 3356 (from your web site) and underlined is how you translated "" ("wa salemu&quot

              It is certain that Allah and His Angels send blessings upon the Distinctly Elevated and Chosen One
              O you who declare to have accepted listen this imperative, you people incline upon him with love and praising praying Allah for sending blessings, and you people submit to him salutations showing obeisance in a humble and respectful manner.

              In other words, when you say "sala allah alayh wa salam"/" " you are saying

              Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him and submits to him salutations showing obeisance.

              This statement is a gross falsehood by any measure. This is why you didn't translate "wa salam". You know that it would expose your falsehood and your idoltarous statement.

              Peace,

              Ayman

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                Mazhar
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                Peace Mazhar,

                I thought that you were better than a typical wild eyed dogmatic big bearded Sunni Mullah. I thought you had more patience and humbleness. I guess I might have been wrong on this account.

                You are claiming that you are saying " " based on the command in 3356. Here is how you translated 3356 (from your web site) and underlined is how you translated "" ("wa salemu&quot

                It is certain that Allah and His Angels send blessings upon the Distinctly Elevated and Chosen One
                O you who declare to have accepted listen this imperative, you people incline upon him with love and praising praying Allah for sending blessings, and you people submit to him salutations showing obeisance in a humble and respectful manner.

                In other words, when you say "sala allah alayh wa salam"/" " you are saying

                Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him and submits to him salutations showing obeisance.

                This statement is a gross falsehood by any measure. This is why you didn't translate "wa salam". You know that it would expose your falsehood and your idoltarous statement.

                Peace,

                Ayman

                Ayman,

                Give a second thought and let me know, do you REALLY understand to mean "and submits to him salutations showing obeisance" and indicate the analysis of the word which makes you to translate it like this.

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                  This very common phrase (AL-SALAT ALA AL-NABI and AL-TASLEEM) derives from the following verse

                  1. Allah and His angels send (yusalloona) blessings on the Prophet O ye that believe! send ye (salloo) blessings on him and (sallimu) salute him with all respect. 3356

                  Innallaaha wa malaaikatahu yu salloo na alan nabi yaa aiyuhal lazeena aamanu salloo alaihi wa salli mu tasleema

                  Immediately after the completion of this verse the Muslims say this

                  SAHIH BUKHARI 8368 & 4589 Abdur-Rahman bin Abi Laila
                  Ka'b bin 'Ujra met me and said, "Shall I give you a present? Once the Prophet came to us and we said, 'O Allah's Apostle! We know how to greet you; but how to send Salat upon you? He said, 'Say Allahumma Salli ala Muhammadin wa 'ala Ali Muhammadin, kama sal-laita 'ala all Ibrahima innaka Hamidun Majid. Allahumma barik 'ala Muhammadin wa 'ala all Muhammadin, kama baarakta 'ala all Ibrahima, innaka Hamidun Majid.' "

                  Ka'b bin Ujrah met me and said, "Shall I not give you a present I got from the Prophet?" 'Abdur-Rahman said, "Yes, give it to me." I said, "We asked Allah's Apostle saying, 'O Allah's Apostle! How should one (ask Allah to) send blessings on you, the members of the family, for Allah has taught us how to salute you (in the prayer)?' He said, 'Say O Allah! Send Your Mercy on Muhammad and on the family of Muhammad, as You sent Your Mercy on Abraham and on the family of Abraham, for You are the Most Praiseworthy, the Most Glorious. O Allah! Send Your Blessings on Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as You sent your Blessings on Abraham and on the family of Abraham, for You are the Most Praiseworthy, the Most Glorious.' "

                  Now we will discuss whether the above verse 3356 do command us to follow this hadith

                  to pray to bless God's blessing and peace be upon him
                  blessing (1) (2) (3)

                  blessing benediction boon receptacle tank pond mercy mere pan patch
                  blessing, prosperity

                  (DICTIONARY) Blessing approve, endorse, support, agree, commend, sanction permission consent, invocation of divine favor, benefit advantage.

                  Benediction = approval sanction support boon= benefit advantage gain help

                  (QURAN) blessing = honor, sanctify, mercy, forgiveness, grace, holy, exalt, praise

                  The established meaning of the word salli or salloo is prayer or blessings. Prayer is understood but whether we understood the meaning of blessings to get to the root of it we will have to look for more verses of the quran where these words have been used.

                  If the people of the towns had but believed and feared Allah We should indeed have opened out to them (all kinds of) blessings (benefits) from heaven and earth; but they rejected (the truth) and We brought them to book for their misdeeds. 796

                  And We made the people who were considered weak to inherit the eastern parts of the land and the western parts thereof which We have blessed (sanctified). And the fair Word of your Lord was fulfilled for the Children of Israel, because of their endurance. And We destroyed completely all the great works and buildings which Fir'aun (Pharaoh) and his people erected. 7137

                  And We rescued him and (his nephew) Lut to the land which We have blessed (sanctified) for the alamin (mankind and jinns) 2171

                  Wa najjaynaahu wa luutan illal ardillati baaraknaa fiihaa lil aalamin

                  The word came "O Noah! come down (from the Ark) with Peace from Us and Blessings (forgiveness) on thee and on some of the Peoples (who will spring) from those with thee 1148

                  Qeela yaa nuuhuhbit bi salaamin minnaa wa barakaatin alaykaa wa alaa umamim mim maak

                  Noah said "O my Lord! I do seek refuge with Thee lest I ask Thee for that of which I have no knowledge. And unless Thou forgive me and have Mercy on me I should indeed be lost!" 1147

                  And this is a blessed (honored and exalted) Scripture which We have revealed, confirming that which (was revealed) before it, that thou mayst warn the Mother of Villages and those around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe herein, and they are careful of their worship. 692

                  (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honor.8013

                  Exalted (in dignity), purified, 8014

                  They said "Dost thou wonder at Allah's decree? The grace of Allah and His blessings (mercy and honor) on you O ye people of the house! for He is indeed worthy of all praise full of all glory!" 1173

                  Qaalu ata jabeenamin amrilllaahi rehmatullahi wa barakaatuhuu alaikum ahlal bayt. Innahu hameedum majeed

                  And We bestowed of Our Mercy on them and We granted them lofty honor on the tongue of truth. 1950

                  And say "O my Lord! enable me to disembark with Thy (help) blessing for Thou art the Best to enable (us) to disembark." 2329

                  Wa qul rabbi anzilni munzalaunw mubaaraka wa anta khairul munzilin

                  We helped him against people who rejected Our Signs truly they were a people given to Evil so We drowned them (in the Flood) all together. 2177

                  Glory to (Allah) Who did take His Servant for Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque whose precincts We did Bless (sanctified) in order that We might show him some of Our Signs for He is the one Who heareth and seeth (all things). 171

                  Subhanallazi asraa bi baadihi lailam minal masidihil haraami ilaa masjidil aqsalllazi baaraknaa haulahu li nuri yahu min aayaatinaa. Innahu samiul baser.

                  For me I have been commanded to serve the Lord of this City Him Who has sanctified it and to
                  Whom (belong) all things and I am commanded to be of those who bow in Islam to Allah's Will 2791

                  "And He hath made me Blessed (honored) wheresoever I be and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; 1931

                  waja alani mubaarakan ayna maa kuntuwa aw saani bis salaati waz zakaati maa dumtu hayyaa.

                  Behold! the angels said "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him his name will be Christ Jesus the son of Mary held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. 345

                  We blessed (mercy and honor) him (Abraham) and Isaac but of their progeny are (some) that do right and (some) that obviously do wrong to their own souls. 37113

                  Wa baaraknaa alaihi wa alaa ishaaq. Wa min zurriyateemaa muhsinunw wa zaalimul li nafsihii mubeen.

                  And We bestowed of Our Mercy on them and We granted them lofty honor on the tongue of truth. 1950

                  The word blessing, which has multiple meaning, does not describe the subject of the verse to the point but when the correct meaning is placed therein the verse is comprehensively understood, and we have seen, the correct meaning of the word blessing is itself reflected in the same context in other verses of the quran. AND THAT IS THE REAL BEAUTY OF QURAN. Remember the word for Blessings in the Quran in Arabic is Baarak and not Salat.

                  Similarly we shall put on the same process to the said verse 3356

                  But before that a general EXPLANATION of the verse to erase any misunderstanding.

                  Strangely enough, when most Muslims are asked as to what these words mean they are not really sure!

                  When you say Salli ala al Nabi what do you really mean? Are you praising the prophet? Are you imploring him so that he may intercede on your behalf on judgment day, are you praying God to grant the prophet His highest mercy? Or what?

                  What then is the opinion of the Muffasireen (the interpreters)?

                  First they will say that God has exclusively honored prophet when He said

                  "God and His angels Yussalloon ala al Nabi (for the prophet)"

                  Immediately, their claim is exposed by Quranic evidence. In the Quran we read that God and His Angels do the same to all believers and not just to the prophet

                  He it is Who sends blessings on you as do His angels that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers. 3343

                  Huwallazi yu salli alaikum wa malaaikatahu li yukhrijakum minaz zulumaati ilan noor. Wa kaana bil mumina raheema.

                  But the matter does not end there, in Sura 9 we find God commanding the prophet to do the same for the believers

                  Of their goods take alms that so thou mightest purify and sanctify them; and pray on their behalf. Verily thy prayers are a source of security for them and Allah is one who heareth and knoweth. 9103

                  Khuz min amwaalihim sadaqatan tutah hiruhum wa tuzakkihim bihaa wa salli alaihim inna salaat aka sakanalluhum. Walla hu samiun alim.

                  Now if this verb Yussalli is done by Allah to the believers, also by the prophet to the believers, how can the interpreters say that it is an exclusive honor bestowed by God on the prophet!

                  To twist out of this tricky situation the interpreters have fabricated a ridiculous excuse. They claim that the word Salawat has no less than five different meanings!!

                  1- First they will say that when God does the Salat to the prophet it means honoring exclusively.

                  2- When God does the Salat to the believers it means granting them His mercy.

                  3- When the angels do the Salat to the prophet it means constantly praising him.

                  4- When the angels do the Salat to the believers, or when the prophet does it for the believers, it is in the sense of imploring Gods mercy for them.

                  5- When the believers do the Salat to the prophet it is a sign of loving him and following him.

                  If the word (Salat) in the Quran can have all these meanings then the Quran is indeed a collection of ambiguous puzzles!

                  To believe that God may say one simple word and imply five different meanings is to imply that the Quran is vague and crooked! The important fact is that after all that, and as it turns out, none of these five meanings is correct! To verify that let us study the use of the word Salat in the Quran.
                  Immediately we find that the word Salat has been mentioned in the Quran in two different context

                  a- The Salat for Allah, which is an act of worship, as used in the following verse

                  "I am God; there is no other God beside Me, Thus you shall worship me and observe the Salat to commemorate Me." 2014

                  b- The Salat of the prophet on the believers or of the believers on the prophet as mentioned in
                  previous verses.

                  The difference between the two uses of the same word all depends on the letter or the word that comes immediately after the word Salat.

                  The word Salat is either followed by the Arabic letter Li which means (to, for) as in

                  Observe the Salat to commemorate Me." 2014

                  This first use means the act of prayer, which is done exclusively for God.

                  The word Salat can also be followed by the Arabic word Ala which means (on) as in all the previous verses.

                  Now, if Salat for means the act of worship of God, what is the meaning of the word Salat on as the one done for the prophet or the believers?

                  Going back to (Sura 33, verse 56), and since the two verbs (Yussalloona and Salloo) are used in the same verse, without any implication of a change in meaning, then by logic they must have the same meaning.

                  Consequently, when God informs us that He and the angels (Yussalloona ala al Nabi), then in the same sentence commands us to do the same, we must understand that it is of the same meaning.

                  How does Allah and His angels send Their blessings on prophet? We send blessings by asking Allah to send His SALLAITA on PROPHET as Ibrahim as well as prophet and his family

                  Here we reach the heart of the matter. What is the meaning of (Salat ala al Nabi) that can be done by God and by the believers equally? The same thing that is done by God must be done by the believers, as per the previous example.

                  First, and to give the interpreters the benefit of the doubt, let us look at the five different meanings they have suggested for the word Salat ala al Nabi and try to find out if any of these meanings can possibly be done by God and also by the believers

                  1- God bestowing honor on His servant This can be done by God to any of His servants, but it is not in the authority of any human to honor another human on behalf of God.

                  Those who take disbelievers for Auliya' (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honour, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honour, power and glory. 4139

                  2- To grant mercy Again this may only be done by God to any of His servants, all humans are themselves in need of Gods mercy, they do not have it within them to grant one another Gods mercy.

                  When those who believe in Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) come to you, say "Salamun 'Alaikum" (peace be on you); your Lord has written Mercy for Himself, so that, if any of you does evil in ignorance, and thereafter repents and does righteous good deeds (by obeying Allah), then surely, He is Oft?Forgiving, Most Merciful. 654

                  3- To constantly praise God is too exalted (Al Mutaali) and proud (Al Mutakabbir) than to constantly sing the praises of any of those He has created. On the other hand, the Quran teaches the believers that the only one worthy of constant praise is God.

                  And Musa (Moses) said "If you disbelieve, you and all on earth together, then verily! Allah is Rich (Free of all wants), Owner of all Praise." 148

                  4- To implore Gods mercy This may be done by believers but it does not make sense for God to implore Himself.

                  Remember ye implored the assistance of your Lord and He answered you "I will assist you with a thousand of the angels ranks on ranks." 89

                  1. To grant grace Again this is done by God to any of His servants and believers have no power to grant grace on behalf of God.

                  It is never the wish of those without faith among the people of the Book nor of the Pagans that anything good should come down to you from your Lord. But Allah will choose for His special Mercy whom He will for Allah is Lord of grace abounding. 2105

                  1. Forgiving Again this is also done by God to any of His servants and believers have no power to forgive anybody.
                    That Allah may forgive thee thy faults of the past and those to follow; fulfill His favor to thee; and guide thee on the Straight Way; 482

                  2. Blessings God exclusively does this and no human being can bless anybody

                  He it is Who sends blessings on you as do His angels that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers. 3343

                  From this brief analysis it is clear that except imploring all interpretations are done by God, but there is not one interpretation that could apply to God and human beings equally. What then is the correct meaning of these words?

                  The only meaning for the words Salat ala al Nabi that is found in the Quran and that can apply to God, His angels and to the believers alike is to support the prophet. God and His angels indeed support the prophet and by the same token God commands the believers to support His prophet. This correct meaning is confirmed by Quranic verses

                  Now how does the word support fit in the above verses has to be examined and does Allah and His angels support the prophet and the believers as well and prophet and believers support each other.

                  Allah supporting prophet
                  And if they intend to deceive you, then verily, Allah is All-Sufficient for you. He it is Who has supported you with His Help and with the believers. 862

                  If ye help him not, still Allah helped him when those who disbelieve drove him forth, the second of two; when they two were in the cave, when he said unto his comrade Grieve not. Lo! Allah is with us. Then Allah caused His peace of reassurance to descend upon him and supported him with hosts ye cannot see, and made the word of those who disbelieved the nethermost, while Allah's word it was that became the uppermost. Allah is Mighty, Wise. 940

                  Believers supporting prophet
                  (And there is also a share in this booty) for the poor emigrants, who were expelled from their homes and their property, seeking Bounties from Allah and to please Him. And helping Allah (i.e. helping His religion) and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW). Such are indeed the truthful (to what they say); - 598

                  Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them. He will enjoin on them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He will make lawful for them all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve them of their burden and the fetters that they used to wear. Then those who believe in him, and honor him and help him, and follow the light, which is sent down with him they are the successful. 7157

                  Angels supporting prophet
                  "Yea" if ye remain firm and act aright even if the enemy should rush here on you in hot haste your Lord would help you with five thousand angels making a terrific onslaught.3125

                  Remember thou saidst to the faithful is it not enough for you that Allah should help you with three thousand angels (specially) sent down? 3124

                  Thus the correct meaning of the words Salat ala al Nabi is to support the prophet. Since the prophet is now dead and no longer with us then it is not possible to support him personally. The support now is directed to his message, which is the Quran.

                  With that correct meaning of the word, it is right to think that when God Yussallee ala al Momineen it means He supports them and guides them out of the darkness. This meaning is indeed confirmed in the verse

                  "He is the one who Yussallee alaikum (supports you), together with His angels, to lead you out of the darkness into the light." 3343

                  It is important here to inspect some of the hadith that are related to the Salat ala al Nabi and Various hadith indicate that the prophet emphasized his wish that the believers should say these words for him. Here we must wonder, did the prophet really ask this of the believers? And if not why? The verification of any concept, saying, or ritual must be based on whether this concept is in agreement with the Quran or not.

                  To verify these hadith let us first read the following verses

                  And no reward dost thou ask of them for this it is no less than a Message for all creatures.12 104

                  "But if ye turn back (consider) no reward have I asked of you my reward is only due from Allah and I have been commanded to be of those who submit to Allah's Will (in Islam)." 1072

                  Say (O Muhammad SAW) "Whatever wage I might have asked of you is yours. My wage is from Allah only. And He is Witness over all things." 3447

                  Say (O Muhammad SAW) "No wage do I ask of you for this (the Qur'an), nor am I one of the Mutakallifun (those who pretend and fabricate things which do not exist). 3886

                  "Follow those who ask no reward of you (for themselves) and who have themselves received Guidance. 3621

                  Those were the (prophets) who received Allah's guidance copy the guidance they received; Say "No reward for this do I ask of you this is no less than a Message for the nations." 690

                  That is (the Bounty) whereof Allah gives Glad Tidings to His Servants who believe and do righteous deeds. Say "No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin." And if anyone earns any good We shall give Him an increase of good in respect thereof for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Ready to appreciate (service). 4223

                  That is (the Paradise) whereof Allah gives glad tidings to His slaves who believe and do righteous good deeds. Say "No reward do I ask of you for this except to be kind to me for my kinship with you." And whoever earns a good righteous deed, We shall give him an increase of good in respect thereof. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (the deeds of those who are obedient to Him). 4223

                  (Saying) "We feed you for the sake of Allah alone No reward do we desire from you nor thanks. 769

                  "O my people! I ask of you no reward for this (Message). My reward is from none but Him Who created me will ye not then understand? 1151

                  These verses assert the fact that the prophet never asked the believers for anything in return for delivering Gods message to them. It is indeed far more respectful to think of the prophet as he whose mission was much more noble than to go around saying do this for me or do that.

                  Another of the cherished hadith implies that the prophet instructed Muslims to say a specific prayer for him. The words of this prayer are as follows

                  Aaty (grant) Sayedna (our Master/Lord) Muhammad the way, the virtue and the highest degree and deliver him to the praise worthy status that You promised him, You do not break Your promises.

                  This simple everyday prayer contains various violations of the teachings of the Quran

                  1- To believe that the prophet has asked the believers to do something for him is in violation of the previous Quranic verses that command the prophet to ask for no return whatsoever from the believers. The only return he will receive will be from God.

                  2- It is indeed wrong in the sight of God to call anyone our Lord except He.

                  "Or have they set up other Lords besides Him, God is the only Lord and Master" 429

                  3- The one who uses such a prayer is the one who either never read the Quran or has read it but does not really believe it! This is because Sura 48 confirms that God has informed the prophet that He has forgiven him all his sins, past and future

                  "We have bestowed upon you (O Muhammad) a great victory, whereby God forgives your past, as well as future sins." 481/2

                  What this great sign of mercy from God to his prophet means is that Muhammad is secured the highest reward in the hereafter (since he is forgiven all his sins). As a result, no prayer could elevate his position any higher (since there is none better than He who has been forgiven all sins in advance!).

                  4- The words you do not break your promises, are to say the least insulting to God. The utterance of these words can only mean that whoever speaks them is not really sure if God will keep His promise and that a small reminder will come handy!!

                  Instead, when a true believer reads in the Quran that God has forgiven the prophet all his sins, will consider the matter a closed one. He will not need to remind God of His promises.

                  If this is the correct meaning of the words Sallat ala al Nabi, then what is the meaning of the word Tassleem as in Wa sallemoo tasleema (Sura 33, verse 56)?

                  Sadly, the corrupted interpreters have found another corrupted meaning to these words as well. They claim that these words are a command from God to salute the prophet and send him our greetings!

                  This is based on their false interpretation of the word Tasleema to mean greetings!
                  Salutation

                  Salute

                  submission surrender transmission acceptance delivery
                  handing over turning in presenting delivery surrender acceptance approval consent admission

                  consign admit agree accept commit allow

                  to hand over (to) hand in (to) submit (to) present to deliver (to) (&#1618 to save rescue to protect preserve (safe) guard to salute greet to admit acknowledge (&#1610 give him my best regards remember me to him

                  This is contrary to the meaning of the word in the Quran as will be demonstrated, but before doing that we must consider all similar words to Tasleem that are used in the Quran.

                  1- Islam Which means submission to the will of God as in

                  "The only religion approved by God is Islam" 319

                  "Anyone who adopts other than Islam as his religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the Hereafter he will be with the losers. 385

                  2- Salam Which means greetings as in

                  "Do not say to the one who offers you Salam (greetings), You are not a believer..." 494

                  3- Salm Which is the opposite of war as in

                  "If they are inclined towards Salm (peace), then so shall you and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient." 861

                  4- Saleem Which means without defects as in

                  "That is the day when neither money nor children will be of any use, only the ones who come to God with a heart that is Saleem (without defects, pure) (will be saved)." 2688/89

                  5- Istisllam Which means surrender as in

                  "Stop them and ask them, How come you do not help one another? On that day they will be
                  Mostaslemoon (in total surrender)." 3725/26

                  6- Soullaman Which means a ladder as in

                  "And if their rejection gets to be too much for you, you should know that even if you dug a tunnel through the earth, or climbed a Soullama (ladder) into the sky, and produced a miracle for them (they still would not believe)...." 635

                  7- Tasleem Which means recognition and acceptance.

                  As in the subject of this search 3356

                  It is noteworthy to mention that the word Tasleem is found in only three verses in the Quran, and in all three verses it means to recognize and endorse

                  "Never indeed, by your Lord; they are not believers until they come to you to judge in their disputes, then have no objection to your judgment and Yussallemoo Tasleeema (totally accepting and endorsing it)." 465

                  His messenger had promised us, indeed God and His messenger have been truthful. All this strengthened their Iman and Tasleem (faith and recognition)." 3322

                  "God and His angels Yussalloo ala al Nabi (support him). O you who believe you shall Salloo alayhee (support him) and Sallemoo Tasleema, (fully recognize him and accept him as the messenger of God)." 3356

                  A very simple and effective way of proving that the word Tasleem means recognition and not greetings as the corrupters would have us believe, is to substitute each of these two words, first (recognition), then (greetings) in place of the word Tasleem in each of the previous verses and see which one of the two words make more sense.

                  Let us start with the word greetings

                  • ".........they are not believers until they come to you to judge in their disputes, then have no objection to your judgment and greetings!!

                  • ".....indeed God and His messenger have been truthful. All this strengthened their Iman and greetings!!!!!

                  It is obvious that the substitution of the word greetings in these verses makes no sense whatsoever. However if we insert the word recognition in place of Tasleem all three verses will make perfect sense.

                  The correct meaning of verse 56 of Sura 33 is thus

                  "God and His angels support the prophet, O you who believe you too shall support him and fully recognize and accept him (as the prophet of God)."

                  Indeed it makes perfect sense that God should command the believers to support His prophet and totally accept him rather than to be primarily concerned in people going around saying (Sallee ala al Nabi) without understanding what it really means and sending our greeting to the prophet who is
                  dead and can no longer hear us. see 3514.

                  However, the corrupters have come up with the most absurd scenario to justify the need to constantly greet the prophet. They claim that the prophet is alive in his grave, that he can see us when we visit his grave, that he hears us when we greet him and actually replies to our greetings!!

                  This absurd fabrication is once again in contradiction to various Quranic verses.

                  The prophet does not return the greetings simply because the Quran affirms that those who died cannot hear us, and thus cannot respond to us

                  "Those you call on other than Him (your Lord) do not possess as much as a seeds shell. If you call on them they cannot hear you. Even if they heard you they cannot respond to you...." (35/13-14)

                  The Quran states that a barrier separates the dead from the living

                  "A barrier will separate them from this world till the day they are resurrected." (23/100)

                  For all that, the correct meaning of (Sura 33, verse 56) is

                  "God and His angels support the prophet, O you who believe, you too shall support him and fully recognize and accept him (as the prophet of God)."

                  This accurate and precise meaning is asserted and authenticated in the following verse

                  "Those who believe in him (the prophet), and respect him, and support him, and follow the light (the Quran) that was brought down with him, those are the truly successful ones." 7157

                  This verse includes all that God commanded us to do for the prophet

                  1- To believe in him, which corresponds to (Sallemoo Tasleema) in 3356

                  2- To support him, which corresponds to (Salloo Alayhee) in the same verse.

                  3- To obey him (to follow the message that was revealed to him, which is the Quran).

                  This is what God commands any people to do for their prophet, whether they are the people of Moses, Jesus or Muhammad.

                  The importance of this last verse is profound since it exposes the corrupted interpretation of three prime concepts

                  1- Sallemmo Tasllemma is a command from God to the believers to recognize and believe in His prophet, it is not a command from God for them to send him greetings!!!

                  2- Salloo Alayhee is a command from God to the believers to support His prophet, it is not a command to the believers to go around like parrots repeating Salli ala al Nabi without even knowing what it means!

                  3- To obey the prophet is a command from God to the believers to follow the light (Quran) that He has revealed to His prophet (7157), it is not a command to follow that which is falsely attributed to the prophet, and called his Sunna, and which was never mentioned in the Quran, not even once!

                  The only Sunna authorized in the Quran is the Sunna of God.

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                    bravo @ hafeez kazi

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                      Hafeez Kazi,

                      Pl also look into these and try to translate them, may be you then like to review and reframe the above theses

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                      Sufficient and appropriate for them is the Hell-Prison, they will "scorch" it.

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                        Dear brother Mazhar

                        please do not ask me to translate your quoted verses because I know what it means and this has nothing to do with SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WA SALLAM, what is important for you is to prove that whatever I have posted is FALSE.

                        May ALLAH guide you to the truth.

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                          Dear brother Mazhar

                          please do not ask me to translate your quoted verses because I know what it means and this has nothing to do with SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WA SALLAM, what is important for you is to prove that whatever I have posted is FALSE.

                          May ALLAH guide you to the truth.

                          Let me quote you

                          to pray to bless God's blessing and peace be upon him
                          blessing (1) (2) (3)

                          blessing benediction boon receptacle tank pond mercy mere pan patch
                          blessing, prosperity

                          This is based on their false interpretation of the word ?Tasleema? to mean greetings!
                          Salutation

                          Salute

                          submission surrender transmission acceptance delivery
                          handing over turning in presenting delivery surrender acceptance approval consent admission

                          consign admit agree accept commit allow

                          to hand over (to) hand in (to) submit (to) present to deliver (to) (&#1618 to save rescue to protect preserve (safe) guard to salute greet to admit acknowledge (&#1610 give him my best regards remember me to him

                          And again look at the quoted Aayat and find the same words and try to apply your logic to arrive at what you are trying to portray. And somewhere I have pointed out that this method of indicating the meanings of words, by picking them up from the dictionary at random, does not determine the meanings of particular owrd. This reflects only that the person quoting them does not know Arabic and exact meanings of those words, and nor their structure.

                          I don't emphasise to try translating those.

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                            Peace Mazhar,

                            Give a second thought and let me know, do you REALLY understand to mean "and submits to him salutations showing obeisance" and indicate the analysis of the word which makes you to translate it like this.

                            You claim that you utter "sala allah alayh wa salam" in Arabic after a certain name is mentioned due to the command in 3356. In the context of 3356 you translated "salamu" as "submit to him salutations showing obeisance". So you are not really parroting "sala allah alayh wa salam" based on 3356 but based on your imagination. So, like all Sunnis, you expose yourself as either ignorant or idolatarous when you say "sala allah alayh wa salam".

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

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                              This is based on their false interpretation of the word ?Tasleema? to mean greetings!
                              Salutation

                              Salute

                              sal?u?ta?tion

                              /s?lyten/ Show Spelled Show IPA
                              ?noun
                              1.
                              the act of saluting.
                              2.
                              something uttered, written, or done by way of saluting.
                              3.
                              a word or phrase serving as the prefatory greeting in a letter or speech, as Dear Sir in a letter or Ladies and Gentlemen in a speech.

                              Origin
                              1350?1400; ME < L salttin- (s. of saltti ) greeting, equiv. to saltt ( us ) (ptp. of saltre to greet; see salute, -ate1 ) + -in- -ion

                              salutation (s?ljten)

                              ? n

                              1. an act, phrase, gesture, etc, that serves as a greeting
                              2. a form of words used as an opening to a speech or letter, such as Dear Sir or Ladies and Gentlemen
                              3. the act of saluting

                              Word Origin & History

                              salutation
                              late 14c., from O.Fr. salutacion , from L. salutationem (nom. salutatio ), from salutatus , pp. of salutare "to greet" (see salute). As a word of greeting (eliptical for "I offer salutation&quot it is recorded from 1530s.

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                                Mazhar
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                                Peace Mazhar,

                                You claim that you utter "sala allah alayh wa salam" in Arabic after a certain name is mentioned due to the command in 3356. In the context of 3356 you translated "salamu" as "submit to him salutations showing obeisance". So you are not really parroting "sala allah alayh wa salam" based on 3356 but based on your imagination. So, like all Sunnis, you expose yourself as either ignorant or idolatarous when you say "sala allah alayh wa salam".

                                Peace,

                                Ayman

                                Aymen,

                                Dont be dishonest so openly even academically. Go back what you translated in red and explain that first. And here too you you exposing your so called intellectual level by above observation. Even the most stupid student of Arabic will not say this, since the first verb is past/perfect and the other verb is second person, imperative, singular. But disease of Nifaq does not let people see blatent studpides of their observations.

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 104952 PM

                                  This is based on their false interpretation of the word ?Tasleema? to mean greetings!
                                  Salutation

                                  Salute

                                  Ayisha!

                                  This was quote of Kazi. I drew his attention to his quotes, this part perhaps remained uncovered by quote button.

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                                    Peace Mazhar,

                                    Dont be dishonest so openly even academically. Go back what you translated in red and explain that first. And here too you you exposing your so called intellectual level by above observation. Even the most stupid student of Arabic will not say this, since the first verb is past/perfect and the other verb is second person, imperative, singular. But disease of Nifaq does not let people see blatent studpides of their observations.

                                    If you are so smart then why didn?t you translate ?? and cut it short? Here is your half-baked translation of " "

                                    Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him ....

                                    Given that like all sectarians you are mindlessly parroting words, I doubt that any of your logic is sound. I suspect this is why you didn?t translate ?wa sallim? since translating it would expose your nonsense. However, anyone can easily see your falsehood with a closer look.

                                    First, the sectarian formula is actually ?salla allah alayh wa sallam?, not ?sallim?. So both verbs are in the past/perfect. Sectarians are misguided but they are not stupid. Unlike you, they know that ?sallim? would render the expression ungrammatical since it would result in tense disagreement and it would have no subject or if the subject is taken as ?allah? then it would be a blasphemous statement.

                                    Ironically, the sectarians reverse the formula and make it in the imperative when they say ?allahuma salli ala Mohamad? during the Tahiyat section of their so called Salat. They don?t say ?allahuma salli ala Mohamad wa sallim? and they take out ?sallim? because again it would be blasphemous. So in this case they are essentially interpreting the god?s imperative as turning around and giving the god the same imperative.

                                    Either way, whether it is the sectarian formula ?salla allah alayh wa sallam? or whether it is your Mazhar-invented formula ?salla allah alayh wa sallim? what you are parroting is nonsense that has nothing to do with what believers were told to do in 3356.

                                    What the believers were told in 3356 is to do the same thing that the god did and in addition to that be at peace completely. The god certainly didn?t go around uttering ?salla allah alayh wa sallam? whenever the prophet?s name was mentioned. Similarly, the prophet didn?t understand the same command in 9103 to mean going around parroting ?salla allah alayh wa sallam? whenever the name of any of those who repented was mentioned. Think about it, if you can.

                                    Peace,

                                    Ayman

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                                      Mazhar
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                                      If you are so smart then why didn?t you translate ?? and cut it short? Here is your half-baked translation of " "

                                      Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him ....

                                      Why are you proving and confirming to be dishonest in academic discussion? Go back and see that I translated word by word the first three words of the above quote.

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                                      It is certain that Allah and His Angels send blessings upon the Distinctly Elevated and Chosen One

                                      Verb-Like Particle This is one of the six Particles called since in some features they resemble with verbs. They are sentential modifiers. What was earlier known as subject in a nominal sentence, because of its presence at the outset, that will now be called "-Noun of ", which is rendered in accusative case; and the predicate will be called its which will be in nominative case or state.

                                      Allah Proper Noun-accusative.

                                      Prefixed conjunction

                                      Possessive Phrase Noun definite; plural; masculine; accusative + Possessive Pronoun Second person; singular; masculine; in genitive state.

                                      Verb Imperfect; third person; masculine; plural + Subject pronoun in nominative case + Mood Indicative by ; Verbal noun -- Predicate of .

                                      Prepositional phrase Separable preposition+ Noun Definite; singular; masculine; in genitive state; relating to verb.

                                      Verb Perfect; singular; masculine; Verbal noun -

                                      Allah Proper Noun-nominative-Subject of the verb.

                                      Prepositional Phrase Separable Preposition + Pronoun Third person; Definite, singular, masculine;

                                      Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him .

                                      Is the above statement a narration of a fact or a conjecture, lie?

                                      And the whole sentence is Predicate of the Subject-Muhammad

                                      This was with reference to the quote of the Ayat. The last part/two words are with reference to the following injunction which is not yet discussed when you gave this "intellectual's" translation of the last two words.

                                      Peace Mazhar,

                                      I thought that you were better than a typical wild eyed dogmatic big bearded Sunni Mullah. I thought you had more patience and humbleness. I guess I might have been wrong on this account.

                                      You are claiming that you are saying " " based on the command in 3356. Here is how you translated 3356 (from your web site) and underlined is how you translated "" ("wa salemu&quot

                                      It is certain that Allah and His Angels send blessings upon the Distinctly Elevated and Chosen One
                                      O you who declare to have accepted listen this imperative, you people incline upon him with love and praising praying Allah for sending blessings, and you people submit to him salutations showing obeisance in a humble and respectful manner.

                                      In other words, when you say "sala allah alayh wa salam"/" " you are saying

                                      Allah sent blessings, help, approval, to him and submits to him salutations showing obeisance.

                                      This statement is a gross falsehood by any measure. This is why you didn't translate "wa salam". You know that it would expose your falsehood and your idoltarous statement.

                                      Peace,

                                      Ayman

                                      This has exposed that you do not know Arabic and are deceiving people by wearing a garb of "intellectual". Allah will keep exposing each and every Munafiq.

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                                        Mazhar
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                                        First, the sectarian formula is actually ?salla allah alayh wa sallam?, not ?sallim?. So both verbs are in the past/perfect.

                                        Why are you so adamant to prove that apart from not knowing Arabic you are fool also by throwing such "pearls" on the forum? Do you know what is the difference between a transitive and non transitive verb? And do you know the implication of double "ll" in what you are presuing the sectarian formula "sallam"? You are not yet well trained in deceiving people. Practice for some time more.

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                                          Peace Mazhar,

                                          Why are you proving and confirming to be dishonest in academic discussion? Go back and see that I translated word by word the first three words of the above quote.
                                          This was with reference to the quote of the Ayat. The last part/two words are with reference to the following injunction which is not yet discussed when you gave this "intellectual's" translation of the last two words.
                                          This has exposed that you do not know Arabic and are deceiving people by wearing a garb of "intellectual". Allah will keep exposing each and every Munafiq.Why are you so adamant to prove that apart from not knowing Arabic you are fool also by throwing such "pearls" on the forum? Do you know what is the difference between a transitive and non transitive verb? And do you know the implication of double "ll" in what you are presuing the sectarian formula "sallam"? You are not yet well trained in deceiving people. Practice for some time more.

                                          This translation is taken from your translation of 3356, which you claim your mindless parroting of "salla allah 3alyh wa sallam" or "wa sallim" or whatever you made up is based on. If you think it is dishonest and foolish then go back and change your translation

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                                          You continue to evade to translate the complete sentence "salla allah alayh wa sallam", specifically, the "wa sallam" part. Instead of honestly translating and focusing on the issue you act like a 5 year old whose parents didn't raise well. I think that by now everyone can see that you have no answer and you cannot translate "wa sallam" without exposing your nonsense. When cornered on the simplest specifics such as providing the translation of one word, you run and expose your dogmatic side.

                                          Peace,

                                          Ayman

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