Marriage ceremonies
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Peace All,
Have any of you been to traditional wedding/marriage ceremonies? If you have did the conductor (sheikh) or the guardians of the couple hold hands? or hold hands and have a cloth over them? what is up with that tradition. is it just an arab thing or does it happen in different communities?
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Peace All,
Have any of you been to traditional wedding/marriage ceremonies? If you have did the conductor (sheikh) or the guardians of the couple hold hands? or hold hands and have a cloth over them? what is up with that tradition. is it just an arab thing or does it happen in different communities?
Salaam,
Do you count the wedding that I recently witnessed as a traditional wedding ceremony? lol
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Well, since you count that... lemme recall what happened.
There were the bride and the bridegroom, the sheikh, the witnesses (five of us). Basically, he just made the bride and the bridegroom as well as the witnesses to sign the nikah paper. Then he opened the ceremony by sending prayers to the Prophet because it's the Sunnah way, then reciting Fatihah, chucking a good portion of hadiths and a little bit of the Qur'an about marriage, "tips" on how to survive marriage", asking the bride how much the dowry was etc etc, then asking the bridegroom if he wanted to take the bride as his wife, then he 'gave away' the bride to him. Marriage is valid.
So no, nothing like what you described
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its just an arabic thing i guess....in pakistan the girl and the guy are in seperate rooms...a wali agrees in the guys room on th egirls behalf...or the shiekh comes to the girls room and ask her if she approves of the marriage.
in the weddings which are less traditional the guy and girl sit with each other and the shiekh calls out the terms of the agreement..but no holding hand ..."astaghfirullah!" as the shiekhs would call it p -
I've been to two Muslim weddings. One at the mosque the bride and groom sat next to each other & the IMan was in front. They didn't really touch at all. At the other one the bride and groom were in separate rooms - well it was an apartment block and they were even in different apartments. She never saw the men until after she was married but of course her wali was there.
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I went to two weddings last year.
The first one was held at the mosque although I think the bride and groom had already signed the papers. As usual the guys and girls were in different rooms. A group of us were standing outside waiting for the couple to arrive. When they did the bride was covered from head to toe in white and you couldn't see her face. The groom than took her to where the rest of the women were. After a little while he turned up where the guys were. Everyone was seated and then the next thing I remember a guy got up to recite a religious poem. Then it broke out into a religious chant and even this sheikh who was there broke into song and started off something.
After all had calmed down we went to the main and best part of the wedding, the food ;D After that I left so not sure what else was done.The second one was for a female relative. We went to her house and the grooms family also went there for the religious ceremony.
Again the guys were in one room and the ladies in another. Once the sheikh came and everyone was ready the shiekh asked the groom to recite some words (cant remember what). After that he went to the door of where the women were and started basically asking the brides permission to accept the groom in marriage. What stood out here was that the sheikh asked for permission 12 times. We asked why 12 times and were told each time represents the 12 imams of Ahlul Bayt. After the 12th time the bride stated she agreed and then the groom went in to the room. Not sure what they did after that but I do remember walking into the room and seeing them next to each other and they were holding hands. Obviously after that the best bit of the day with the food coming out eat -
There is clearly a whole lot of ''tradition'' going into this and perhaps some of it based on hadith which I haven't looked into. I mean the differences in the way weddings are carried are huge. In my experience with some Muslims the usual rules they would apply of no touching, no makeup, no glitz to attract the opposite sex, no music etc etc are replaced by very special 'wedding rules'' lol. I know I have brought this up before elsewhere on here, but I do find it not only amazing but amusing.
yesure2000 - the thing about the 12 Imams is interesting
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Hey sis. At my wedding I sat beside my husband (our chairs facing). I did not speak but to answer that I did come of my own free will. My Wali sat across the table from my husband. and the Imam next to the Wali. Then he started talking to them and they held hands (Hubby and Wali) Agreeing on the nikah and everything else, there was some quran, hadith and prayers to the Prophet. After they held hands for a few minutes they shook, then separated. We exchanged rings and signed our nikah.
In My sister in laws wedding in Cairo, they did the napkin thing. It was over the hand of his brother and the brides father. Then they grab the napkin off of the hands. Later that napkin is used to collect the evidence to be displayed for the family as to the virginity of the bride. (which to me is so nasty, where is the modesty for her with everyone coming the next day to see this bloody napkin, UGH!) I asked my husband what if she did not bleed, it happens. He said then a doctor is called in and all this other stuff.
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yes I have heard about the Cairo issue however it's an old old old practise/tradition. it's ignorance to think that virginity is purely based on hymen blood.
holding hands or holding hands with napkin/cloth on top seems to be a reoccurring tradition.. it's interesting. i never thought the cloth symbolised pureness or virginity but that kinda makes sense.
I knew this elder Egyptian lady, Coptic Christian. she said that in her time the father of the bride would walk down the street with his daughters white cloth around his head.. after it had been used i.e. wedding night. - boasting his daughters loyalness/pureness. some practices are pretty pathetic.
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Hey sis. At my wedding I sat beside my husband (our chairs facing). I did not speak but to answer that I did come of my own free will. My Wali sat across the table from my husband. and the Imam next to the Wali. Then he started talking to them and they held hands (Hubby and Wali) Agreeing on the nikah and everything else, there was some quran, hadith and prayers to the Prophet. After they held hands for a few minutes they shook, then separated. We exchanged rings and signed our nikah.
In My sister in laws wedding in Cairo, they did the napkin thing. It was over the hand of his brother and the brides father. Then they grab the napkin off of the hands. Later that napkin is used to collect the evidence to be displayed for the family as to the virginity of the bride. (which to me is so nasty, where is the modesty for her with everyone coming the next day to see this bloody napkin, UGH!) I asked my husband what if she did not bleed, it happens. He said then a doctor is called in and all this other stuff.
That must be so embarrassing
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This is one of the best versions sung by my favorite Yossi Azulay!!!
It is a song "boi bshalom" = "come in peace"...
And the God is always the very first mentioned!
I've seen many weddings but this one is simply BEAUTIFUL in its poised elegance and religiosity with this marvelous voice flying over the invited guests...
Enjoy!
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJWBHSrOjY
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Glory to God the Blessed One