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Islam dislikes nail-polish??!

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    Ayisha
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    ya gotta love these!

    Volume 4, Book 56, Number 750

    Narrated Qatada

    I asked Anas, "Did the Prophet use to dye (his) hair?" He said, "No, for there were only a few white hairs on his temples."

    Volume 4, Book 56, Number 668

    Narrated Abu Huraira

    Allah's Apostle said, "The Jews and the Christians do not dye (their grey hair), so you shall do the opposite of what they do (i.e. dye your grey hair and beards)."

    Book 51, Number 51.3.8

    Yahya related to me from Malik that Yahya ibn Said said that Muhammad ibn Ibrahim at-Taymi had informed him that Abu Salama ibn Abd ar-Rahman said "Abd ar-Rahman ibn al-Aswad ibn Abdal-Yaghuth used to sit with us and he had a white beard and hair. One day he came to us and he had dyed them red, and the people said to him, 'This is better.' He said. 'A'isha the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, sent her slave girl Nukhayla to me yesterday. She swore that my hair would be dyed and she informed me that Abu Bakr as-Siddiq used to dye his hair.' "

    Yahya said that he heard Malik say about dyeing the hair black, 'I have not heard anything certain on that, and other colours than that are preferable to me."

    Yahya said, "Not to dye at all is permitted, Allah willing, and there is no constraint on people concerning it."

    Yahya said that he had heard Malik say, "There is no clear indication in this hadith that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, did not dye his hair. Had the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, dyed his hair, A'isha would have sent a message to that effect to Abd ar-Rahman ibn al-Aswad."

    ;D

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      Dear Harris

      You seem to have the same "problem" I do with my wife. She is a lovely woman but sometimes she gets "torn" between the more traditional and the progressive.

      In instances where there is a lot of proof from hadith that such and such is haram or bad or whatever (like nailpolish) but no evidence against it, I have found it to be easier to "show" my wife some other hadith "rulings" that should also be followed.

      Some examples are, stepping into a toilet with your right foot first, not sleeping with your legs crossed, must eat with right hand (no fork or knife), her not allowed to speak to male classmates, woman must have travel companion, etc. etc.

      I think you can find many more hadiths or rules that your wife does NOT follow. Tell her that if she is following one, she must follow all, she cannot pick and choose to her liking.....Anyways, it made my wife take a closer look into what is true islam and what is tradition/culture.

      Emil

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        Leyna
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        harris, is the pretty lady in the picture your wife? If yes, is she ok with you putting her picture up here? peace

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          Mushu
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          harris, is the pretty lady in the picture your wife? If yes, is she ok with you putting her picture up here? peace

          There's two pretty ladies in the picture, if you scroll right. Two wives, perhaps?

          Nah, I'm joking bro harris. peace

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            nerspi
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            peace all

            well with me usually logic works, it all depends how people see God though, some see Him as someone who put a lot of value on pain on our bodies... but if you read the quran, you can clearly see God focuses more on our souls...

            there's many people with no nailpolish who behave really bad, are their prayers valid?
            or someone with nailpolish who behaves good (as a true muslim)?

            doesn't matter how one decorates their body, nailpolish, plucking eyebrows, eye shadow, lipstick, tattoos, piercings... as long as the soul is good and does good works, that's started all throughout quran, good works.

            ok if it's done out of some bad reason, like hatred towards God's creation, to mislead others... that might be bad yes, but again it all starts with the soul.

            so don't let anyone tell you or your wife about your prayers being nullified, only God can decide that.

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              Leyna
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              There's two pretty ladies in the picture, if you scroll right.

              Oops, you're right, I didn't scroll previously. Can't really see the face of the lady on the right though, so hard to say whether she's pretty or not.

              Speaking of nail polish ? I work with university students, and the other day one of them was applying nail polish during the lecture. hypno Not that it bothered me, I just found it odd.

              Here in Cairo, neon colors on fingernails and toe nails are the big hype at the moment.

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                Imaani1
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                I too had the nail varnish warning when visiting a mosque laugh....

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                  SarahY
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                  The thing with sunnism is they make you feel guilty make you feel you need to put the world on your shoulders to be good.

                  Why do women wear nail polish? to look pretty? to feel pretty? to match clothes? to look neat?? a habit of social discourse?

                  it's almost like being "pretty" is a sin.

                  I don't wear nail polish but I do dye my hair. Years ago before I was to do my roots a sister told me I couldnt for the same reasons - the wudu. After she went and checked with some Imam she came back and said it was ok as long as it was red or black dye ???

                  of course all from hadith. So if red or black dye is ok and the same still applies regarding wudu, presumably red or black nail polish is ok too? ;D

                  The wudu is a 'ritual' cleansing, a 'ritual' purification before prayer. If it's not seen as that then how come we are told if you cannot find water to use clean earth? earth no matter how 'clean' is not going to 'clean' you, so it is a ritual.

                  Actually that's not entirely accurate look up black dye in hadith, it's not likened.

                  I used to think nail polish wasn't exactly modest. i think it's more about being in a pure state then the waterproof-ness of nail polish

                  Speaking of nail polish I work with university students, and the other day one of them was applying nail polish during the lecture. hypno Not that it bothered me, I just found it odd.

                  Here in Cairo, neon colors on fingernails and toe nails are the big hype at the moment. )

                  that's odd, was it neon coloured lol

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                    Leyna
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                    It was bright pink. ;D

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                      Rana
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                      So if red or black dye is ok and the same still applies regarding wudu, presumably red or black nail polish is ok too? ;D

                      laugh laugh

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                        Rana
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                        Salaam.

                        I couldn't resist reading this post! Yup, it's so funny (or maybe not so funny) the number of strange things there are rulings on. As someone mentioned...using the right hand only for eating? That never made sense to me...I don't wipe anything dodgy with my left hand and I have a wonderful thing called soap which keeps my hands really clean when used in combo with water. The stepping into the toilet with a certain foot too...if that isn't a case of lets make the Muslims life as hard as possible I don't know what is!

                        Recently I was party to a discussion on why some women leave Islam. I suggested that maybe it a combination of things, including the fact that converts come into it being told that being a Muslim is so simple; it's soooo easy following Islam. Well...not really I said - its ridiculous how complicated it is made! I was then told that ''they make it hard on themselves". I just couldn't take any more after that. brickwall How can anyone within majority Islam not see that with hadith it's impossible to ever feel comfortable and like you are doing things right...it's just an endless procession of contradictory rules that case problems in ones life.

                        Yikes...I feel a bit like I'm carrying some vitriol that I didn't know about so I might stop there.

                        Harris I hope that your wife can feel more comfortable to make a decision based on facts and not feel pushed by others. Then again, it's only nail polish...

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                          huruf
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                          The detail of the do's and don'ts that accretions to the revelation have cast upon a conscientious muslim if he or she doesn't just take it on stride is too much of a joke. Some of these things may go back to hygiene or to other reasona that might make sense at one time or other, or may be not. However it is so much splitting hairs that fulfills no useful purpose except muddling morals and behaviour. The problem is that is peddled as doctrine. If it was just mere narration to make with it to each reader discretion, it wouldn't be such a problem, but when it is made into doctrine, it becomes some times at best ridiculous, at worst horrendous.

                          And concerning women going overboard on vanity, isn't it covered in 24.31? So much ingeniosity has been spent on making it appear that this aya deals with hijab, that nobody catches the obvious that it dels with vain showing off, or why would otherwise women keep those "ornaments" from other women?

                          On the other hand, I am ashtounded that at the same time that so much is made of hijab and nail polish or other absurdities of "hyperislam", nobody seems to care or notice that god "Fashion" is pushing these days on women shoes with heels of such height that I fear women walking on them may fall over as from the top of a cliff. ?Are we blind?

                          I know that looking back and over the years many women have suffered ugly health sequels from shoeing for the viewers and not for walking or running, are we such mindless idiots. Many years back, it was impossible not to do it if you wanted to find a job, but hadn't we emancipated? or what is the matter?

                          Salaam

                          Salaam.

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                            On the other hand, I am ashtounded that at the same time that so much is made of hijab and nail polish or other absurdities of "hyperislam", nobody seems to care or notice that god "Fashion" is pushing these days on women shoes with heels of such height that I fear women walking on them may fall over as from the top of a cliff.

                            Personally, I hate high heels. Being able to walk and stand comfortably and gracefully is of utmost importance to me; I hate the strange and artificial way of moving about high heels force you to adopt. And I don't even like the way they look, it's a miracle to me why people find high heels appealing.

                            That said, I see way more women with high heels here in Egypt than in my European homecountry. And they are usually combined with hijab. And, of course, nail polish. ;D

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                              Wasalaam Huruf. You made some great points. Yes, I think we can easily be mindless laugh

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                                I can see why all ladies will be in jahanum eat

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                                  Leyna
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                                  Oh, and btw. ? high heels are also haram, of course!

                                  Wearing high heels is not permissible because it exposes women to the risk of falling, and we are commanded in sharee?ah to avoid danger in a general sense, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning)

                                  ?And do not kill yourselves?

                                  ?and do not throw yourselves into destruction?

                                  It also makes women look taller than they really are and makes their posteriors appear more prominent, and this is a kind of deception and showing the adornments which the believing woman is forbidden to show ?

                                  http//www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/26215

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                                    Raaajah
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                                    Did nail polish existed in the present shape at time of prophet?

                                    regarding the photographs they are from

                                    A pair of students at American University of Beirut show off their nail polish. A leading ayatollah recently said Muslim women could pray without having to remove their nail polish. Credit Meris Lutz / Babylon & Beyond

                                    from the same site which says
                                    Shiite cleric Ayatollah Mohammad Fadlallah issued a fatwa allowing women to pray wearing nail polish.
                                    He recently ruled that women are allowed to strike their husbands in self defense.(Good news ladies)

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                                      harris
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                                      Salaam bros n sistas,

                                      Gr8 to hear all yer opinions...
                                      Leyna n Mushu , neither of those beautiful women are my wives and I don't think my real wife finds your query/ comment amusing! lol ;D
                                      Emil, glad to know we share something similar... giveup

                                      Ok coming to the topic at hand, here's what I could find

                                      Ofcourse there is no harm in applying lipstick and nail polish. Also, there is no harm in performing Salat while wearing them. But we keep hearing that the Fiq?h scholars have decreed that since water does not reach the lips and nails that are painted when performing Wudu, women have to remove it before performing a Wudu. They judge that otherwise the person?s prayer is deemed void.

                                      There's just one simple question for all those muslims who oppose such a simple joy as ?nail-polish?

                                      Why did the Prophet allow men to do wudu without removing their socks??

                                      If water should really touch every place that we do the wudu(face, head, mouth, hands, feet) why is it taught in Sharia that the Prophet allowed men to wear even leather socks (khuffayn) and perform wudu. Think about it? It does seem foolish to imagine that a simple nail polish wud break someone's salat but wearing socks on the feet does not! Why the double-standard?

                                      http//www.islammonitor.org/uploads/pics/washshoe.jpg

                                      Also, if it is soo important that water must touch ever part of your hand, how is it that both the Quran and hadiths instruct us to use dry sand if water is not available. (sura 56)

                                      Comeon hadithists, talk to me!

                                      The above proof only shows without doubt that Allah almighty only wants us to be CLEAN one way or another when we are praying to Him. Blindly putting rules and giving fatwas concluding this is right and that is wrong does not make sense. There is absolutely no reason a nail polish should spoil a woman's prayer if she is washed and clean.

                                      I guess what we must remind some muslims is that Islam is not a set of rules, but Allah?s blessing for mankind. Therefore His laws will always be accomodating of our needs and wants. Here are cases that clearly prove this point

                                      • In the case of lack of water, Tayamom is accepted. This would be using Sand to clean the body. But does that mean if there?s no water, one would put sand in the mouth and the nose to clean them? Ofcourse not.
                                        But if we were to blindly follow the idea, this is what we would have been expected to do, right?

                                      • When a person FRACTURES an arm and has a cast on- it is sufficient to rub water on the cast not on the skin. The assumption here that the arm was clean when the cast was put on. Would you say that the person?s salat is wasted and that Allah will not accept becoz the patient did not wash with water?

                                      • Islam allows to rub water during wudu even on some specialized boots that were worn during the time of the Prophet. Again in this case, the foot is not washed becoz it is assumed that the feet were already cleaned earlier.

                                      Thus we can safely conclude that the same has to apply in the case of women?s finger nails. If the hands were already clean when applying the polish, there is absolutely no reason for her to be worried about anything when performing wudu and preparing for salat the next time.

                                      Infact I know of 'some' muslim women who look forward to those ?5 days of the month? so that they could go about applying make-up/nail polish without worries. Nobody will pressurise them during that period and none of their relatives at home will form judgements based on their appearance. Well , isn't it wierd that Islam would actually have laws that result in situations that make muslims looks forward NOT TO pray ? Allah is the Most Beneficient , Most Merciful and the Most Understanding? He certainly wants every muslim to look forward for prayer.

                                      I?d like to conclude with the Sura 1736

                                      ?You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.?

                                      Having said all that, I've still not been able to change my wife's views.... Hmmm... Since it doesn't affect me and it's up to her how she wants to carry herself, guess I'll just let it pass and let her be D

                                      peace to all!
                                      Harris

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                                        Leyna
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                                        harris, I agree with everything you wrote. If the issue is being approached with some logic, the conclusion that doing wudu with nail polish invalidates prayer does not make any sense.

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                                          Islam dislikes this.. Islam accepts those.. Islam requires that... Islam...

                                          Islam should be another thing than a belief..

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