The Stoning of Soraya M
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The whole idea of killing someone for having sex is BIZARRE and people who propagate those ideas are sick bastards.
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I so agree Leyna. I have spoken with people who truly believe in these laws too and it's so weird to hear their views. It's like they don't believe that people might actually ''refrain'' from having sex outside of marriage unless threatened with death!
Now, I do realise that sex is a strong urge AND I totally agree that marriage is important and must be protected, but, to need to be threatened with stoning? Come on!
I always think too - what if it was my child, a friend, my husband...myself who got into a situation like this. Would I want any of them stoned? NO. Ok, so maybe with my husband I would want to do the killing myself (just kidding, seriously, just kidding lol). I bet many Muslims today who believe in these laws would do a quick 180degree switch if it were their child, sibling, parent or good friend who was suddenly accused (rightly or wrongly).
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Sick people; satanic people came into our religion 300 years after the messenger dies and after the islamic empire civilisation was winning the hearts of all the world , there was no other way to stop them except by corrupting their teachings , and sadly they succeded, i am a sunni and honestly i staart to feel ibn kathir, tabari and bukhari were satanic people for they're the people who inserted in our history about companions killing each other and all imaginary bloody wars, they succeded in turning us into sects and corrputed our religion to make muslims becoming religiou people, looking for rituals and ignoring the quran, for the quran doesn't instruct us on rituals, excep salat wich i'm not sure it's aritual, and fasting wich is healthy for the bpdy, anyway, I start to feel bukhari, tabari and ibn kathir weren't doing it innocently, for u have to be an idiot to write crap on the most honored people like they did
Funny thing is, there's documents in Spain, andalussia, that says Ali was a khalifa until he dies, hassan was a khalifa wo died sick from a disease, and his brother hussein who ruled and get killed by a man who was ' PERSIAN just like tabari and ibn kathir' , sorry for iranian people who are reading this, the funny think iss, in these documents it is mentionned the hassan and hussein were brothers, but none says that they were Ali's children nor any of them says anything about Fatima , it is weird, i know all documents from baghdad and damascus disappeared, but spain andalussia was far away from them peace, salam
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Peace,
I watched it too..
I was traumatised and cried alot when I saw that..The conspiracy behind..How they misuse the Quranic verses.It was all so horrible.
I wonder what they take women for. They are so crual and barbarians
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Has anyone here watched the Stoning of Soraya M movie? I just saw it today and was extremely shocked. I can't believe people think this is Islamic.
Here's a link to the stoning scene, but don't watch if you are faint-hearted
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpYJnm2KWRY
They need The Qur'an. Now!
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But it's not enough Alen, better to listen to joe bloggs who said fred gibbons said that dave smith said that pete clark said he heard the prophet say something totally different to what Allah said.
You prepare your jokes in advance or it's pure improvisation ?
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100% natural, just rolls off. Would you think it less a joke if I used 'Islamic' names like Ahmed, hassan, Ali,etc? Doesn't take anything away from the truth in my comment though.
It won't loose from its fun but hassan ali ahmed are too common , I count on your imagination to find more funny ones like zanjabil ibn el chalabouchi -. ones that sound impressives.
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It won't loose from its fun but hassan ali ahmed are too common , I count on your imagination to find more funny ones like zanjabil ibn el chalabouchi -. ones that sound impressives.
ok I'll give it a go.
How about Abu Homar, Fifi bint el maryalah, ibn Raace, Abu Kabreet, Abu Motahere
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Salam Wakas.
Thank you so much for this link. It helped calm me a bit. I've been against stoning all my life, but ever since I saw that movie I've been in shock. I just couldn't believe that my faith would sanction something horrible like that.
After I watched this movie I talked to a Muslim friend and he said that stoning is permitted in Islam. His rational was that adultery is a horrible sin and it is better to be punished for it here on earth rather than suffer for it in hell. He said that the prolonged and slow suffering that a person goes through during the stoning atones for their sins. I just don't buy it. If they must punish her, then they could just choose a quick and painless method of execution.
This upsets me very much. No matter how many websites cite how stoning and other horrendous sayings and practices encouraged by hadith are misconceptions, none of it matters when so many Muslims believe in them to be true and follow them. This makes them not misconceptions, but blatant truths to all who view Islam from the outside, especially Americans who are being trained by the media to view Muslims as bloodthirsty slavering savages. When I view Islam from a quran-only perspective, I get a view of a righteous people who strive for good and forbid what is wrong. But holding these beliefs makes me disgusting, and even deserving of death by many of my fellow traditional Muslims. It breaks my heart to see how successful shaitan has been in corrupting Allah's way with the hadith. Sometimes I feel like all is lost for traditional Islam on the whole, and that all I can do is silently endure on my own until death.
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Despite having the Quran..The core of their belief is wrong coz they do not use the accurate version of Quran..They use literal words out of it.
Peace.
I have a feeling they're not using Qur'an at all.
I have a feeling they're using tradition and even then a non-Islamic one.
Sad.Peace.
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This upsets me very much. No matter how many websites cite how stoning and other horrendous sayings and practices encouraged by hadith are misconceptions, none of it matters when so many Muslims believe in them to be true and follow them. This makes them not misconceptions, but blatant truths to all who view Islam from the outside, especially Americans who are being trained by the media to view Muslims as bloodthirsty slavering savages. When I view Islam from a quran-only perspective, I get a view of a righteous people who strive for good and forbid what is wrong. But holding these beliefs makes me disgusting, and even deserving of death by many of my fellow traditional Muslims. It breaks my heart to see how successful shaitan has been in corrupting Allah's way with the hadith. Sometimes I feel like all is lost for traditional Islam on the whole, and that all I can do is silently endure on my own until death.
You made an excellent point (highlighted above) - I've had concerns over that too though never really put it in those words. We can argue all we like but when the majority has faith in hadith then it's quite hard to move from there and yes we are viewed as deserving of death by some. Wow
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Despite having the Quran..The core of their belief is wrong coz they do not use the accurate version of Quran..They use literal words out of it.
?Literal? ?What is literal from the Qur'an concerning lapidation? It is precisely literal what it is not.
Salaam