If a traditionalist calls you a ?non-Muslim? they are committing shirk
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NOTE This may seem obvious.
Since a Muslim is one who has absolute faith in and submits to God alone, it is impossible (without committing shirk) to hold a singe hadith as authority. No matter how ?authentic? it may seem, it is still literally hearsay and not a Revelation. Therefore what right has even the most advanced scholar to dictate Islam outside of the Qur?an (i.e. what right has anyone to impose a Law (outside of the Qur?an) and label it religion?) They at most have the legal right (ignoring the fact that many hadiths contradict or embellish the Qur?an).
Therefore, what religious right has a Sunni or Shia etc. to label a ?Quranist? (i.e. Muslim) anything else (outside Islam) providing he or she is in fact Qur?an-alone? Are they not making a fatwa based on non-Qur?anic sources on what is Islam and what is not? We do not call Sunni and Shia ?non-Muslims? or ?kuffar? etc. (or if we do we can debate the legitimacy as they so wish).
They assume (for cultural convenience) that the words of scholars (and hadiths) are Truth (knowing that they are unpreserved and not from God) and their unwavering conviction in the words of Man is equal to that of their ?faith? in the Qur?an (despite the Qur?an and hadiths testifying against any sources outside the Book).
Thus, if a Sunni or Shia etc. labels a Muslim as non-Muslim (or the equivalent) for refusing to accept the ahadith as religious law, they are committing shirk.
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Don't mind them, i use to be traditionalist, i was exchangong messages with Aysha and honestly, i use to hate her, she sounded like an ignorant to me, even though i was the ignorant one, it didn't take to much time for me to realise though, she and a few people hit me with the truth, I analysed, and if what they were saying was the truth, than it is the truth, whether i like it or no, but that's me, everybody is different, i am a person who been balancing from one religion to another, but this coran alone? sounds like i can't find better, logic and reason, that was always the problem with other religions, but sometimes, specially if you're born with that ideas in your mind, it's not easy to accept that most of it was a lie, hey always try to proove themselves right, most of them are not confident, they're afraid if they reject hadith they might be making a mistake, and they're too conservatives, not easy at all, specially they were confident (like me) that the hadith is the sunnah of prophet mohamed, without realising that the purpose of the hadith was to diminish of his caracter, anyway, don't mind them, most of them are gonna see the truth one day, hopefully
I can't wait to see 2 billion people open mind searching and studying the quran, it will be amazing, it wil be light
Ayesha, i have only love for you sis
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O you who believe! let not (one) people laugh at (another) people perchance they may be better than they, nor let women (laugh) at (other) women, perchance they may be better than they; and do not find fault with your own people nor call one another by nicknames; evil is a bad name after faith, and whoever does not turn, these it is that are the unjust.
O you who believe, if you go forth in the cause of God, you shall investigate carefully. And do not say to those who greet you with peace "You are not a believer!" You are seeking the vanity of this world; but with God are many riches. That is how you were before, but God favored you, so investigate carefully. God is expert over what you do.
As we can see, the believers at the time were told not to ridicule others as they may be better than them, nor call a peaceful person a disbeliever. So, if Muslims of today ridicule others that means they think they are a better judge of person than believers at the prophet's time, or if they call another disbeliever, they think they know better than the believers of the time. Interesting.
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Most hadiths were sets of rules for that particular time,why inflict it now,after 1400 years.Surely the Quran is the only eternal book of Allah.Most hadiths to me are just outdated traditions.People who follow hadiths over the Quran are commiting shirk.People who have made up these sects are destroying Islam.