What does ma malakat aymanikoum mean?
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Salaam. The concluding paragraph of the article whose link Wakas gives
Our understanding is that 'Ma Malakat Aymanukum' are men and women who are "betrothed/engaged' in marriage and thus are described by the term 'what your OATHS posses' (i.e. due to the oath of marriage).
When I consider Al-Ahzab 52, 53 and 55, I have difficulty agreeing with the understanding above.
52.(O Prophet!) Form now on you are allowed neither to marry other women nor to change them in place of your wives, except those whom your oath has - ma malakat yameenuk.
53.(O believing men!) When you ask (the Prophet's women) for anything you want, ask them from before a screen.
55.However, there is no sin concerning those whom their oaths possess - ma malakat aymanuhun.Now...
(1)Are the ma malakat aymanuhun mentioned in 55, that is, those whom the oaths of the Prophet's women have, engaged to the Prophet's women?!(2)What is the difference between those whom the Prophet's oath has in 52 and those whom the oaths of the prophet's women have in 55?
Peace,
Hasan Ak?ay -
OPEN BURHAN QURAN BROWSER (http//openburhan.com/) It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess
La yahillu laka alnnisao min baAAdu wa la an tabaddala bihinna min azwajin wa law aAAjabaka husnuhunna illa ma malakat yameenuk
Form now on you are not allowed (to marry) women - La yahillu laka alnnisao min baAAd'
and to change them for any from your wives - wa la an tabaddala bihinna min azwajin
even if you like their beauty (the beauty of other women) - walaw aAAjabaka husnuhun
except whom your oath has - illa ma malakat yameenukMY TRANSLATION From now on you are not allowed (to marry) other women, neither are you allowed to change them for any from your wives even if you like the beauty of other women, except whom your oath has.
I am still unsure, especially about my translation of the words an tabaddala bihinne min azwajin. Will you please help and answer my two questions
(1)Are the ma malakat aymanuhun mentioned in 55, that is, those whom the oaths of the Prophet's wives have, engaged to the Prophet's wives, which seems to be claimed in the article?!
(2)What is the difference between those whom the Prophet's oath has in 52 and those whom the oaths of the prophet's wives have in 55?
Peace,
Hasan Ak?ay -
Spent significant time researching it, and in my opinion conventional understanding (female sex slaves) is a strong possibility.
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I don't understand where is the justice in that interpretation? So someone can have a couple of sex slaves forcibly taken yet consensual intercourse outside of a social construct is a grave sin? There must surely be a line where things meet, where they are clarified.
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OPEN BURHAN QURAN BROWSER (http//openburhan.com/) It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess
La yahillu laka alnnisao min baAAdu wa la an tabaddala bihinna min azwajin wa law aAAjabaka husnuhunna illa ma malakat yameenuk
Form now on you are not allowed (to marry) women - La yahillu laka alnnisao min baAAd'
and to change them for any from your wives - wa la an tabaddala bihinna min azwajin
even if you like their beauty (the beauty of other women) - walaw aAAjabaka husnuhun
except whom your oath has - illa ma malakat yameenukMY TRANSLATION From now on you are not allowed (to marry) other women, neither are you allowed to change them for any from your wives even if you like the beauty of other women, except whom your oath has.
I am still unsure, especially about my translation of the words an tabaddala bihinne min azwajin. Will you please help and answer my two questions
(1)Are the ma malakat aymanuhun mentioned in 55, that is, those whom the oaths of the Prophet's wives have, engaged to the Prophet's wives, which seems to be claimed in the article?!
(2)What is the difference between those whom the Prophet's oath has in 52 and those whom the oaths of the prophet's wives have in 55?
Peace,
Hasan Ak?ayPeace,
My understanding of MMA is the same as Wakas, and for me it means wedlocks, but maybe if you take the complete definition of wedlocks than it would work
wedlocks means when engaged for mariage but can also mean someone divorcing you have a buffer period where you can cancel the divorce.
Peace
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The wives's ma malakat aymanihim is the prophet himself, ma malakat aymanihi is his wives
Nothing to do with slaves for slavery was abolished with Islam by the Quranit's as saying you're my friend and my brother
Azwaj isn't always wives, it's pairs, when it is wives, it's azwaj and ma malakt ayman -
Wakas
Yes, i dont know if it is a sentence that define the sentenc ebefore it
Aymanuhunna sounds in this verse as their husbands
or maybe aymanikou, is a general meaning for close blood people
as woman to husband or family closest members
for exemple, your wife is your pair and what your rights possses, and vice versa
but your colleague, is your pair , but stops right there
it's just a suggestion, can this be the meaning ?
for exemple allah say prays the 2 extreme paets of the day and close to the night
They say the 2 parts of the day that are the near parts of the nightU get what i' am trying to say ?
the word Wa, We always translate to And, doesn't have always to be an addition, but an explanation of the word before it
I might be wrong
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Whatever you call them, you must treat them the same way as any other human being in Islam
Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess(MMA) For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-
And let those who cannot find a match keep chaste till Allah give them independence by His grace. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), write it for them if ye are aware of aught of good in them, and bestow upon them of the wealth of Allah which He hath bestowed upon you. Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. And if one force them, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful.
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It has been said previously, but in view of the differente situations, I go back to it could it not be the condition of somebody, man or woman having social, legal or economical responsibility for somebody else, be it marriage, engagement, as a pupil, as a protected person, like say when you bring someone from another country and that person in order to get legal residence in the new country for whatever period must have somebody else assume responsibility por his or her stay and his or her economic needs. The inviting person would have to respond for the invited. What kind of charge or charges is meant by the expression would depend on the context. In the case of marriage it could be, as loxbox suggests, that zauj is merely defacto partner, and MMA is somebody to whom you are betrothed or already married, and of course there may be even frequently the case of persons having both conditions at the same time, wife or husband and MMA, but it is the conditions tht are being listed, not the persons.
It is narrated, in ahadith I suppose, that muslims used to have people with them who had run away from the kafirs and who were taken by individual muslims, males or females, for protection, like the case of a woman who took her non muslim ex husband. Regardless of the faithfulness or authenticity of the hadiths relating that, from the point of view I am exposing it would be a clear case of MMA.
On the other hand, that those specific mentions of women having MMA go to show how clearly and uncontestably wrong are those traditional interpretations of the Qur'an which are usually put forward (like for instance currently by Citizenderkosmos) to Musims who reject them as proof that they are trying to "beautify" the Qur'an, but that in fact traditionalists are right and that real meaning of the Qur'an is in fact the worst possible meaning, in the present case MMA=female sex slaves.
If traditionalists have been able to ignore several clear, black on white mentions of women legally "possessing sex slaves" in the Qur'an, what gurantee do we have of their absolute wisdom when interpreting anything else, specially regarding women? That is not to say that there has not been anything good or even very good in traditonal thought, or that there have not been many schools and trends which were very "advanced", but were forgotten in the self-complacency of decadence.
Salaam
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Salaam,
The wives's ma malakat aymanihim is the prophet himself, ma malakat aymanihi is his wives
Nothing to do with slaves for slavery was abolished with Islam by the Quranit's as saying you're my friend and my brother
Azwaj isn't always wives, it's pairs, when it is wives, it's azwaj and ma malakt aymanI prefer to translate "Azwaj" as "Couple" instead of Pairs
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for exemple, your wife is your pair and what your rights possses, and vice versa
If so then what means
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425 And whoever of you cannot afford to marry the independent female believers, then from those maintained by your oaths of the believing young women. And Allah is more aware of your faith, some of you to each other. You shall marry them with the permission of their parents and give them their dowries in kindness; to be independent, not for illicit sex or taking lovers. When they become independent, then any of them who come with lewdness shall have half of what is the punishment for those independent. This is for those who are concerned about deviating from among you. But if you are patient it is better for you, and Allah is Forgiver, Merciful.
1- They are not your wives.
2- They are not like other women who protects themselves , when you cannot afford to marry a Muhsanaat then you can marry MMA.
3- Cause they have half of the punishment of Muhsanaat.
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan
