Quran Syntax question?
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Let me try to put it together, what you have said so far can not be.
- A sentence as it does begin with a preposition.
The subject/topic of a sentence cannot be one of the following two things.
- a prepositional phrase
** an adverbial phrase
- Whatever, it is, not a sentence, but somehow should have had a predicate. However, Its predicate/ is also elided. As it does begin with "a prepositional phrase"
When these two entities appear to be the topic of a sentence i..e. they are in the beginning, they are in fact relating to the elided comment/predicate.
Would you kindly share. What is this? What kind of a syntax, it is? Which syntactical rules to apply to understand it? Or else, this is just a jargon of words without any comprehensable meanings?
Badar
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Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 024025 PM
When these two entities appear to be the topic of a sentence i..e. they are in the beginning, they are in fact relating to the elided comment/predicate.
Would you kindly share. What is this? What kind of a syntax, it is? Which syntactical rules to apply to understand it? Or else, this is just a jargon of words without any comprehensable meanings?
That is the basic information about sentences. See this
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601909.0
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That is the basic information about sentences. See this
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601909.0
I did not know, how to respond to following comments. But thanks for providing an answer for yourself.
Dear Badr,
Questions are usually less difficult, you are more difficult to handle-----as can be observed from these two pages----and in the end you at times abandon the thread.
Peace,
Badar
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I just realized that you were likely pointing to the link as well. Just read your explanation. There is a fundamental problem here. A (compound), which is. We just agreed that it is a . The part of a can not be taken as
subject and or a predicate.A compound/ as whole can be one or other but not its parts. Hope you know it, very basic rules of Syntax.
Peace,
Badar
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Furthermore, if by example below
That is the basic information about sentences. See this
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601909.0
You are trying to imply that. Whole is predicate first/ . Then the question would be, where is the subject/ .
I Hope you are not implying as subject/ , are you?Peace,
Badar
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I just realized that you were likely pointing to the link as well. Just read your explanation. There is a fundamental problem here. A (compound), which is. We just agreed that it is a . The part of a can not be taken as
subject and or a predicate.A compound/ as whole can be one or other but not its parts. Hope you know it, very basic rules of Syntax.
Peace,
Badar
It now seems that you have atlast seen the link, but still with a blurred vision. Your thought that part of cannot be the subject or predicate of a sentence is totally superfluous. The first noun of it can be subject as well predicate. But not a prepositional phrase i.e. can be the subject or predicate. Here begins with prepositional phrase therefore it is not subject of the sentence.
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Furthermore, if by example below
You are trying to imply that. Whole is predicate first/ . Then the question would be, where is the subject/ .
I Hope you are not implying as subject/ , are you?Peace,
Badar
Badr, in what thoughs are you drowned? I am far away from that what you are saying above. Concentrate on this earlier reply and let me know what you perceived from it, so that I may further clarify if the idea is not picked up.
You don't percieve about a very common practice of ellisions in speech and writing in almost all languages. More than any other language of the world, Arabic language presumes its listener and reader an intelligent, rational, attentive and a person of mind. And Allah has sent the Qur'aan in Arabic as a blessing. It is personal choice if one wish to turn out as a stupid, retarded difficult for handling.
When I pick up Grand Qur'aan from the rack, my intention gets manifested, and I believe that I should start reading it with the Name of Allah. I need not say "I read the Qur'aan" instead say
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It now seems that you have atlast seen the link, but still with a blurred vision. Your thought that part of cannot be the subject or predicate of a sentence is totally superfluous. The first noun of it can be subject as well predicate.
Let me do some more research on this.
Badr, in what thoughs are you drowned? I am far away from that what you are saying above. Concentrate on this earlier reply and let me know what you perceived from it, so that I may further clarify if the idea is not picked up.
Dear Mazhar, it seems you are looking at Quran to justify your held beliefs. Which is fine. I am looking at, Quran just as a book. Which is written in certain language, that I have no clues about. Hence, I am using available rules of preserved language from its archieves to understand it.
This is, what my question is above. If you feel that you know some syntactical rules that explain this verse. Kindly, please share in a rational and understandable sequence. If needed be ready to back up your claims with referances. Otherwise, I do understand your beliefs and respect them as well.
Hope you understand my point of view.
Peace,
Badar
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So again a deep silence. Shall I take from this silence that all champions of the language on this very forum, have nothing as an answer. Yet not only they claim to understand the meanings of Quran. Additionally, they are trying to teach everybody as well.
Peace,
Badar