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Is the Koran all from Allah?

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    savage_carrot
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    My personal opinion about mathematics/statistics is it allows me to see the patterns in the world that Allah created. There is a funny saying

    Some use statistics like a drunkard uses a lamp post, he uses it for support instead of illumination. I think the same way about the Quran. People use it to support their position instead of using it for illumination.

    Sweet quote, makes sense.

    Are you implying the above is too confusing for people?

    IF that were true, then I think pondering upon whether God exists or not or trying to understand The Quran will be the least of their problems.

    I found it sexist personally and take offense to the rest of your statement P

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      Wakas
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      I take offence to your spelling of offence.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        savage_carrot
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        Pedantic as always ;D

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          Rana
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          Omg you guys! lol. At least you are funny on this thread so you gave me a giggle this morning.
          peace

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            huruf
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            I have the impression that statistics has its uses in things that occur in great numbers, but for a specific thing, there are no statistics. You may draw statististics about how much formal or even informal education believers or non believers have, how many children, any amount of data you care to take into consideration, but to say, fulan such and such is he or she a believer or not, there are no statistics. To say there is a God by this definition, you cannot say by statistics. And then the definitions... How can we define what we cannot fathom or grasp?

            It is a matter of existence or non existence, if something exists then what really exists we may call God, or we may call it something else, but the point is The thing we re calling. If we conceive of existence without meaning... that for instance, I cannot grasp. For me everything has meaning, so how can I grasp or interact we something that has no meaning, included myself. If something has meaning and it exists, and everything that exists exists, and is coherent and has meaning, call it by whatever you want, but it is only ONE, everything is ONE, and there a MIND that is ONE. Otherwise we would be chaos and we couldn't possibly be here pinching words.

            And that is not a matter of probabilities, that is a fact.

            Salaam

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              siki
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              Getting back to the topic,

              In my opinion Quran is too trivial a thing to be compiled by Allah himself. I think HIS planning division must have floated the idea and Got it approved. HIS R&D cell, probably chalked a broad outline and then let the Owners/controllers for earthly affairs finish the job.

              Once complete and approved, it must have been passed on to the messenger in charge (Gabriel) of inspectorate team, to be taken along in their next annual visit. They brought it down on one of the Shahar ur Ramadhan night some 14 centuries ago and handed it over to the last layer of controllers for deliverance across the border.

              siki

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