53:15 Did Muhammed go up to heaven?
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Salaam Ozi Kristi-lee,
welcome to the forum
I have read many Quran only Muslims believe that Muhammed did not go up to heaven. N he dosnt know what's there or all of the punishments in hell etc. But I just can't understand this surah of the Quran. Did he see Gabriel in heaven?
Where is Mohammed in those aayaats ? It is could be someone's story that Allah said to Prophet Mohammed and to all of us.
Remember, it is very easy for Allah to add the name "Mohammed" in those aayaats.
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
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Salaaman LB13,
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They say "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause spring to gush forth for us from the earth (90) "Or (until) thou have a garden of date trees and vines, and cause rivers to gush forth in their midst, carrying abundant water; (91) "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face; (92) "Or thou have a house adorned with gold, or thou mount right into the skies. No, we shall not even believe in thy mounting until thou send down to us a book that we could read." Say "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man a messenger?" 9093
Sura 90 has only 20 aayaats, where did you get upto 93 from? Do you add rest of them hmm LOL
May Allah guide us all to His path pr
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When I read verses 532- 5, it sounds like God saying that Muhammed didn't just make up the Quran, and it's been inspired by God. 5310 Then Muhammed received inspiration, 5313 then the second time... Near or next or in Heaven. It's the last part that I can't get my head around.
I understand from the Quran (but I mite be rong) that space it the first heaven. So maybe he just went to space? Heaps of people (Sunnis) are goin against me and they are using this verse for their back up...
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When I read verses 532- 5, it sounds like God saying that Muhammed didn't just make up the Quran, and it's been inspired by God. 5310 Then Muhammed received inspiration, 5313 then the second time... Near or next or in Heaven. It's the last part that I can't get my head around.
I understand from the Quran (but I mite be rong) that space it the first heaven. So maybe he just went to space? Heaps of people (Sunnis) are goin against me and they are using this verse for their back up...
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Salaam Ozi...lee,
When I read verses 532- 5, it sounds like God saying that Muhammed didn't just make up the Quran, and it's been inspired by God. 5310 Then Muhammed received inspiration, 5313 then the second time... Near or next or in Heaven. It's the last part that I can't get my head around.
I understand from the Quran (but I mite be rong) that space it the first heaven. So maybe he just went to space? Heaps of people (Sunnis) are goin against me and they are using this verse for their back up...
Yeah, I know, but Allah is very clear in His words. He would have said "Mohammed" but He has not mentioned Mohammed's name in any of the ayaats that you have quoted. He could have said like
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3340 Mohammed is not the father of any of your men, but he is the messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah is fully aware of all things.
And also you can note that 3340 gives information about MOHAMMED to us, so it contains the name. If 531-15 is also an information about MOHAMMED to us, why the name is not mentioned in any of the aayaats?
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salaam Ozi...lee,
Yeah, I know, but Allah is very clear in His words. He would have said "Mohammed" but He has not mentioned Mohammed's name in any of the ayaats that you have quoted. He could have said like
3340
3340 Mohammed is not the father of any of your men, but he is the messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. And Allah is fully aware of all things.
And also you can note that 3340 gives information about MOHAMMED to us, so it contains the name. If 531-15 is also an information about MOHAMMED to us, why the name is not mentioned in any of the aayaats?
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. KhanThis confusion is arising becase attention is not being focussed on 5302 where he has been mentioned in person "The Guide Lord of you people"
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Salaam Mazhar,
This confusion is arising becase attention is not being focussed on 5302 where he has been mentioned in person "The Guide Lord of you people"
Do you mean it is ONLY referring to Prophet Mohammed (AS)?
Please don't forget that Allah is very particular and specific for His words.
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salaam Mazhar,
Do you mean it is ONLY referring to Prophet Mohammed (AS)?
Please don't forget that Allah is very particular and specific for His words.
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. KhanYes, only and exclusively he is being referred. "kum" refers to all, second person plural, no exception. And the first noun is One Person. It is a very simple phrase leaving no room for any ambiguity in understanding.
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Yes, only and exclusively he is being referred. "kum" refers to all, second person plural, no exception. And the first noun is One Person. It is a very simple phrase leaving no room for any ambiguity in understanding.
Who is HIM in this aayat?
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90119010 And We guided him to both paths?
9011 He should choose the better path.Whom He and Him is referring to? Same as in
535
535 He has been taught by the One mighty in power.Most of the translators twist the words of AlQuraan/AlKitaab and try to correct Allah by inserting in braces as if Allah don't know how to clarify things. OK,
I assume that you understand "Kum" is referring to Sahaba of Prophet Mohammed (AS) as the said story, right? then,
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5312 Do you doubt him in what he saw?I assume again that "YOU" in 5312 is also referring to Sahaba as per your understanding, right?
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5319 Have you considered Allaat and Al-`Uzzah?This "YOU" or "Tum" will also be referring to Sahaaba, right?
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5323 These are but names that you made up, you and your forefathers. Allah never authorized such. They only follow conjecture, and personal desire, while the guidance has come to them from their Lord.
Is this "Tum" also referring to Sahaba?
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Who is HIM in this aayat?
9010
90119010 And We guided him to both paths?
9011 He should choose the better path.Whom He and Him is referring to? Same as in
535
535 He has been taught by the One mighty in power.The problem with you seems that you just see an individual word and not the expressions where it has been put. And also ignore the basic definition of a pronoun and manners of its use.
A pronoun is defined as, "The part of speech that substitutes for nouns or noun phrases and designates persons or things asked for, previously specified, or understood from the context". All pronouns are definite as they are always used for a specific person, place or thing.
The suffixed object pronoun, in accusative state, refers back to the one who is being discussed and desctibed and that is -9004.
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The problem with you seems that you just see an individual word and not the expressions where it has been put. And also ignore the basic definition of a pronoun and manners of its use.
A pronoun is defined as, "The part of speech that substitutes for nouns or noun phrases and designates persons or things asked for, previously specified, or understood from the context". All pronouns are definite as they are always used for a specific person, place or thing.
The suffixed object pronoun, in accusative state, refers back to the one who is being discussed and desctibed and that is -9004.
Thanks, this is what I wanted to ask you. As you said "The suffixed object pronoun, in accusative state, refers back to the one who is being discussed and desctibed and that is -9004"
Now, can you please tell me your understand of 535 FROM THE CONTEXT or by REFERRING IT BACK TO WHOM IS BEING DISCUSSED as you said above? Thanks
Awaiting your reply brother.
May Allah guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Thanks, this is what I wanted to ask you. As you said "The suffixed object pronoun, in accusative state, refers back to the one who is being discussed and desctibed and that is -9004"
Now, can you please tell me your understand of 535 FROM THE CONTEXT or by REFERRING IT BACK TO WHOM IS BEING DISCUSSED as you said above? Thanks
Awaiting your reply brother.
May Allah guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. KhanIn an expression every word, preposition, noun, verb, pronoun is linked and related to another element of the sentence. Arabic is a very specific and precise language. It does not leave things at the mercy or choice of listener to derive whatever he wishes to derive from it.
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that Guiding Lord of you people was neither unmindful of his surroundings and nor he distracted.Verb Perfect; third person; singular; masculine.
Possessive phrase. First definite noun is nominative-Subject of preceding verb.
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And nor he is narrating this in vacuum/from empty thoughts and wishful conjecture,
Imperfect verb, Mood Nominative; third person; singular; masculine; Pronoun of Subject of verb built in/implied referring back to the person mentioned earlier .
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The Mightiest in Power has taught him,Verb Perfect; third person; masculine; singular + Suffixed Fronted Object pronoun third person; singular; masculine, referring back to the person who is the subject of talking/saying what he has been told/made to learn. And the subject of verb-teaching is .
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Salaam Mazhar,
In an expression every word, preposition, noun, verb, pronoun is linked and related to another element of the sentence. Arabic is a very specific and precise language. It does not leave things at the mercy or choice of listener to derive whatever he wishes to derive from it.
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/053.%20An%20Najam/53.2.gif
that Guiding Lord of you people was neither unmindful of his surroundings and nor he distracted.Verb Perfect; third person; singular; masculine.
Possessive phrase. First definite noun is nominative-Subject of preceding verb.
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And nor he is narrating this in vacuum/from empty thoughts and wishful conjecture,
Imperfect verb, Mood Nominative; third person; singular; masculine; Pronoun of Subject of verb built in/implied referring back to the person mentioned earlier .
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since that is but the communication which is being caused to be communicated,http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/053.%20An%20Najam/53.5.gif
The Mightiest in Power has taught him,Verb Perfect; third person; masculine; singular + Suffixed Fronted Object pronoun third person; singular; masculine, referring back to the person who is the subject of talking/saying what he has been told/made to learn. And the subject of verb-teaching is .
My question still remains there brother. You did not answer my question. I did not asked you to translation 5 aayaats of Sura 53.
You simply added "Mohammed....(AS)" Into the brackets when Allah did not said so. Don't you afraid of adding words to the word of Allah? &
If Allah want, He would have added. We have NO authority to insert or delete any thing brother.
When I was looking at your translation, I found something seriously wrong as follows
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And nor he is narrating this in vacuum/from empty thoughts and wishful conjecture,
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since that is but the communication which is being caused to be communicated,
You translated as above. Did you notice that
Yantiqu = narrating
Yuhaa = communicatED? Instead of communicating? Just because it is about wahi?
May Allah forgive us all and guide us to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
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And nor he is narrating this in vacuum/from empty thoughts and wishful conjecture,
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since that is but the communication which is being caused to be communicated,
You translated as above. Did you notice that
Yantiqu = narrating
Yuhaa = communicatED? Instead of communicating? Just because it is about wahi?
It seems that you do not understand or know the difference between two verbs and , the later is passive verb of Form-IV, and even you have not paid attention to the complete sentence instead focussed on two words. I have written "which is being caused to be communicated".
Language cannot be understood by merely knowing the meanings of words. Even if one has all the vacabulary of a language in his memory he cannot understand the written text, unless he knows grammer of that language to understand the relationship and connotations added by those linkages whereby he will understand what is actually stated therein. Please find time to glance some rules of grammer and syntax etc.
While translating I have placed the name as to who is he, as is evident from 3446. The word used here does not mean any person in whose presence you might be now. In parentheses only such thing can be mentioned for convenience of reader's comprehension which is specifically mentioned in Grand Qur'aan.
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So can n e 1 answer if he went to heaven or not? God says to ask those wit knowledge, so does n e no some1 who I can ask?