53:15 Did Muhammed go up to heaven?

Mazhar

It is only possible when someone add up their own words to the word of Allah which is NOT there already. Otherwise there is NO way of misguidance from AlQuraan.

Additions seldom misguide, since they are apparent and can be visibly detected. Confusion and misguidance is caused for the people, not conversant with rules of Arabic, by withholding or not describing the complete meanings and connotations of the words of Qur'aan.

mmkhan

Salaam Mazhar,

Who is "Nazir" for us? Only one person and he is Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam.

Nazir for us?

How could be Prophet Mohammed (AS) is a Nazir for us? Can you please explain?

You are simply trying to prove something without any proof.

May Allah guide us all towards Him pr
Mohammed M. Khan

mmkhan

Salaam bro,

Additions seldom misguide, since they are apparent and can be visibly detected. Confusion and misguidance is caused for the people, not conversant with rules of Arabic, by withholding or not describing the complete meanings and connotations of the words of Qur'aan.

Do you have supporting aayat on this, or ...

May Allah guide us all towards the Truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan

Mazhar

Salaam Mazhar,

Nazir for us?

How could be Prophet Mohammed (AS) is a Nazir for us? Can you please explain?

You are simply trying to prove something without any proof.

May Allah guide us all towards Him pr
Mohammed M. Khan

It means you have not even read what I quoted and highlighted with red colour;
"as is evident from 3446"

And read 619

mmkhan

Salaam Mazhar,

And read 619

I already read your post and I have already responded to it. But seems you like to repeat the same things again and again.

I did not find my answer in the references given. Please make it clear as you claim. Please don't try to twist or add in Allah's word.

May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan

Mazhar

Salaam Mazhar,

I already read your post and I have already responded to it. But seems you like to repeat the same things again and again.

I did not find my answer in the references given. Please make it clear as you claim. Please don't try to twist or add in Allah's word.

May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan

You read nothing and keep talking, see it again

Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 043259 AM
Who is "Nazir" for us? Only one person and he is Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam.

Nazir for us?

How could be Prophet Mohammed (AS) is a Nazir for us? Can you please explain?

It means you have not even read what I quoted and highlighted with red colour;
Quote
"as is evident from 3446"

And read 619

Dont you find who is Nazir for anyone of us whom Qur'aan has reached in this simple statement of 619?

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And this Qur'aan has been communicated to me so that I admonish/awaken you the living people with this and to admonish/awaken the one whom this Qur'aan reached". ;

The one who warns is called "Nazir".

Read the words carefully and you will realize that it covers the present time and all the future till end Bing Bang day.

mmkhan

You read nothing and keep talking, see it again

It means you have not even read what I quoted and highlighted with red colour;
Quote
"as is evident from 3446"

I read already, and now it is your turn to show me from the aayat below, where is it referring to Prophet Mohammed (AS)

3446

3446 Say I advise you to do one thing that you stand to Allah, in pairs and individually, then reflect. There is no madness in your friend, he is only a warner to you in the face of a severe retribution.

If you are referring to " " then whom " " is referring to?

And read 619

Dont you find who is Nazir for anyone of us whom Qur'aan has reached in this simple statement of 619?

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And this Qur'aan has been communicated to me so that I admonish/awaken you the living people with this and to admonish/awaken the one whom this Qur'aan reached". ;

The one who warns is called "Nazir".

Read the words carefully and you will realize that it covers the present time and all the future till end Bing Bang day.

Thanks for clarifying it. I agree that "He is Nazir", but can you please clarify me who is HE in this aayat? There are two reasons for me to ask this question

1- It is said "...wa oohiya ilayya haza AlQuraanu litunzirakum BIHI wa man(m) balagha...", it is not said "Unzila" but it is said "Oohiya", so why it is that?

2- In 619 "Qul" means "Say" repeated 4 times. Whom this "Qul" is referring to all the 4 times?

Please clarify.

May Allah guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan

Mazhar

3446

3446 Say I advise you to do one thing that you stand to Allah, in pairs and individually, then reflect. There is no madness in your friend, he is only a warner to you in the face of a severe retribution.

What he was asked to pronounce/advise people was this . Hereafter is "unquote". If you slightly correct your translation the point will be clear

3446 Say I advise you to do one thing that you stand to Allah, in pairs and individually, then reflect. There is no madness in your friend, he is only a warner to you in the face of a severe retribution.

"I advise you to do one thing that you stand to Allah, in pairs and individually, then reflect".

mmkhan

Salaam Mazhar,

What he was asked to pronounce/advise people was this . Hereafter is "unquote". If you slightly correct your translation the point will be clear

"I advise you to do one thing that you stand to Allah, in pairs and individually, then reflect".

I did not see any difference. Please be CLEAR. Cause you said "If you slightly correct your translation the point will be clear" and simply repeat SAME translation as shown above?

And I still did not understand what it has to do with Sura 53?

Please clarify

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Mohammed M. Khan

Mazhar

Both are not same, see inverted comma.

Mazhar

And I still did not understand what it has to do with Sura 53?

You were trying to know who is meant by there. Here you find that he is for you people "Nazir".

mmkhan

Both are not same, see inverted comma.

I understood that and asked you a few questions in my reply # 36 but simply ignored them.

Hope to get those answers from you, inshaAllah.

May Allah guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan

mmkhan

You were trying to know who is meant by there. Here you find that he is for you people "Nazir".

Same as above post.

Please answer the questions that I asked you, it includes what you wrote.

May Allah guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan

Mazhar

What have you understood so for about the Ayat mentioned in your reply 36 regarding bifurcation or punctuation to see that it comprises of two sentences?

mmkhan

What have you understood so for about the Ayat mentioned in your reply 36 regarding bifurcation or punctuation to see that it comprises of two sentences?

I asked you two things

1- What is the relation it has with Sura 53?

2- Where is Mohammed (AS) mentioned in both the aayats that you have quoted?

Please be specific. Hope to get your correct answer this time, inshaAllah.

May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan

Mazhar

Where is Mohammed (AS) mentioned in both the aayats that you have quoted?

Do you think that Muhammad Sas is mentioned in some Ayat only when his name is specifically mentioned therein?
I hope you have not forgotten that we were discussing as to who is in the phrase

loxbox13

Do you think that Muhammad Sas is mentioned in some Ayat only when his name is specifically mentioned therein?
I hope you have not forgotten that we were discussing as to who is in the phrase

If we see it this way, than mohamed is the most mentionned on the quran
because most of the time, the prophet in addressed directly in the quran
exemple , we sent you......
the reason he is not mentioned is because he's the on addressed in the quran
for exeample, if i speak top u , i'm not gonna say MAZHAR every time I speak to you, but I just speak, but if I want to talk aboit mmkhan , i mention his name everytime I speak about hil, so you will know I'm talking about mmkhan and not someone else.

this is the reason, we have to take the quran as speaking directly to us when adressing the prophet, this is what the sunnis don't understand what does it mean Follow the prophet, is his footstep, meaning use the quran as it is adressed to u .
This is how I see it.

Ozi_Kristi-lee

So from these verses, does that mean he saw the heaven we wil InshaAllah be goin to?

mmkhan

Do you think that Muhammad Sas is mentioned in some Ayat only when his name is specifically mentioned therein?
I hope you have not forgotten that we were discussing as to who is in the phrase

Yes, if you scroll back to previous posts you will notice that you mentioned "Saahib" is referring to ONLY Prophet Mohammed (AS) and I asked you how? You are simply playing around a circle.

I know, you cannot answer this, so forget it now. There is NO mention the name of Prophet Mohammed (AS) that means it is NOT only referring to him. Remember! Allah is very very clear and specific about His words, and we don't have to put words into Allah's mouth.

Simpy if Mohammed (AS) name is not there means NOW it is not referring to him.

Thanks for all you replies.

May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan

mmkhan

Salaam Ozi...,

So from these verses, does that mean he saw the heaven we wil InshaAllah be goin to?

If you mean "Heaven" = "Paradise" or else "he" and "no one else" saw the heaven nor paradise till date.

This is what I understand, may Allah forgive me if I am wrong and correct me.

May Allah guide us all to His path. pr
Mohammed M. Khan