Why,Why on earth give your friendly visitors knives tell me?

unknownuser

Salaams just had to tell what i think ,might benefit some,

1231

...........she gave each one........a knife............and cut their hands..........

(no where on earth are such things carried out,Gross distortions by the translators.)

Lets see what the quran is saying

Aatat = She came (p8-QD)
Sakeenun (M)=Calmness, or tranquility (p1394-lanes)

(but sakeen also means a knife ,just a side note)

Kata'ana= Failed their (about 8 meanings-see lanes)

Aidh=Strength/might, e.t.c

1231

So when she heard of their accusations she sent for them and prepared for them a banquet and she came , every one of them settlled(tranquil) and said come out before them then,when they saw him they exalted him (at his beauty ) and failed in their strength(astonishment) and they said forbid Allah not this (is) a man none this but a noble angel.

May Allah make the quran even more clearer.

Salaams.

YankeeDoodle

lol agreed lol

no where on earth are such things carried out,Gross distortions by the translators.)

cheers

unknownuser

Peace be upon you,

There is nothing about knives and cutting hands in this verse? Can you elabortae more. I know there is another verse regarding the thief that says to cut his hands. Please add that verse to this subject and help me become clear on this.

Thank you for what you have given so far.

unknownuser

Salaams idolfree,

1231,

Here is the original translation.

So when she heard of their accusations she sent for them and prepared for them a banquet and she gave each one of them a knife and said(to joseph) come out before them then,when they saw him they exalted him(at his beauty)
and cut their hands(in their astonishments) and they said forbid Allah not this a man none this(is) but angel a noble.

(By the way idolfree - i think there arn't really any hands cut ,to my knowledge anywhere.)God bless.

Idris

peace, mz

can you give me lane's definition of marwa in 2158, the common translation is pebbles or something, and the root of safa means pardon according to the quran but can you give me lane's definition of that too?

thanx

unknownuser

Peace be upon you MZ357,

(53 And the male thief/robber and the female thief/robber, so cut off their (B)'s hands, a reward because (of) what they (B) gathered/acquired , severe exemplary punishment from God, and God (is) glorious/mighty ,wise/judicious .

The above verse indicates cutting of the hand. I am not certain about either verse. Any help you can give me on this would be greatly appreciated. Please give the word for "cut" so I can follow along.

Idris

peace, idolfree

Peace be upon you MZ357,

(53 And the male thief/robber and the female thief/robber, so cut off their (B)'s hands, a reward because (of) what they (B) gathered/acquired , severe exemplary punishment from God, and God (is) glorious/mighty ,wise/judicious .

The above verse indicates cutting of the hand. I am not certain about either verse. Any help you can give me on this would be greatly appreciated. Please give the word for "cut" so I can follow along.

this may help http//www.free-minds.org/articles/quranic/theft.htm this verse is not about cutting off the robber's hand but taking away his/her resources

unknownuser

Peace be upon you Idris,

Thank you for directing me back to that article. MZ, please be patient with me and tell me where you disagree with that article Idris presented.

khalil

Salaams just had to tell what i think ,might benefit some,

1231

...........she gave each one........a knife............and cut their hands..........

(no where on earth are such things carried out,Gross distortions by the translators.)

I think she gave them a knife for their banquet, which can mean 'A ceremonial dinner honoring a particular guest or occasion. ' In order to ear they'd need cuttlery.

http//dictionary.reference.com/search?q=banquet

I think his appearence was so transcending that they couldn't take thier eyes off of him and weren't looking so they cut thier hands? Although i am not to positive.

hope this helped someway or another.

pz

unknownuser

Salaams idris,all,

Safaa=fredom fromtrouble ,content,happiness.
=Reciprocal purity or sincerity of mind,or of love or affection or of brotherly affection.

Marwata=manliness-consisting in abstinance from things unlawfull,or chestity of manners,or abstaining from doing things secretly what you would be ashamed to do openly,and guarding the tongue and shunning impudance.

plus there may be other mistrans -in the said ayat.

Salaams.

unknownuser

Salaams idolfree,

538

Qata'a = cut,stop,disable,intercept,interrup,seperat e.t.c

Aidh=support/strength,might/authority.

so if you read the ayat again you will notice cuting off the support(could be finencial) or the thiefs authority is all ,i believe ,Allah has said.

Its like people are doing all over the world but ,i think, not what the saudi authorities are doing.

There isn't a hand in the ayat -again to my knowledge.