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I wonder why we as muslims still use proper names such as moses, gabriel, pharaoh and so on.
Isn?t it clear from Quran that their names are Musa, Jibril and Firawn?
Please stop using names taken from other than Quran itself, especially from the books that had been twisted and edited by men.
May ALLAH forgive us.
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I depends on where you are with whom you are talking.
In an englishspeaking Forum it is ok to use Moses to stick with this example as this is whats the englishname is .When you know that you are debatting with a jew it is ok to use Moshe due to respect if you know they are muslims then Musa.
Dont think that People Twisted the names
My view
peace
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i dont think they are English name. they are taken from Old Testament (OT).
Since the current book of Old Testament has contradictions injected by human led by the devil itself, we should not consider it as a holy book. we should not take any information from it to add up or complete any information we got from Quran under any circumstances, since Quran already state that it is complete. no extra information regarding road of salvation is required.
those names from OT are causing us heavy problems due to
- that is the way they can smuggle the non existing character of Jesus to become Nabi Isa, so that many of us think Nabi Isa is Jesus and vice versa.
- that is the way they smuggle the idea of false long timeline of prophets from Nabi Nuh to Nabi Muhammad by changing the name of Nabi Yakub to Israel, so that we will think that Bani Israil is the descendant of Nabi Yakub.
i dont know if there are more evil agenda other than these 2, but these are already bad enough.
please stop using extra-quranic information when we talk about Quran.
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peace,
FM translation of 2217
They ask you about the sacred month "Is there fighting in it?" Say "MUCH FIGHTING IS IN IT, and to repel from the path of God and to disbelieve in it, and the Sacred Temple, to drive its inhabitants out from it is far greater with God, and persecution is worse than being killed." And they still will fight you until they turn you back from your system if they are able. And whoever of you turns back from his system, and he dies while disbelieving, then these have nullified their works in this world and the next; these are the people of the Fire, in it they will abide!
but this is correct imo ?...say "FIGHTING/KILLING IN IT (IS) BIG/GREAT, and prevention/obstruction from God's path and disbelief with(in) it, and the Masjid the Forbidden/Sacred, and bringing/forcing out its people from it (is) bigger/greater at God, and persecution (is) bigger/greater from the fighting/killing,...?
In this verse the derivatives of root K-B-R come 3 times, and it is clear that the 2nd and 3rd occasions signify a sinful action even though it is not mentioned directly, (i.e. bigger/greater crime/sin). So the first occasion can also interpret in the same way i.e. big/great sin/crime.
Thus fighting/killing in Al Shahr Al Haram is
- great sin
- preventing (people) from God's path
- equivalent to disbelieving in ASAH
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peace Mohamed, I agree with you. As a side note you may be interested to learn of the controversy surrounding translation of 2217 in traditional sources
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html analysis, and references this article.It is a rarely discussed issue.
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peace,
What is the difference between ism and alqaab?
FM translation of 4911 made both as the same!
I think ism = name and alqaab = insulting nickname(s)from 4911,
"...Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names; miserable indeed is the name of wickedness after attaining faith. And anyone who does not repent, then these are the transgressors." -
I wonder why we as muslims still use proper names such as moses, gabriel, pharaoh and so on.
Isn?t it clear from Quran that their names are Musa, Jibril and Firawn?
Please stop using names taken from other than Quran itself, especially from the books that had been twisted and edited by men.
May ALLAH forgive us.
Those aren't their real names though. Moses is from Moshe which is a Hebrew version of his Egyptian name which is not known - supposed to be something like Meshitihu meaning to be pulled from the water. He wasn't called Musa in real life.
Isa spoke Aramaic so his name was something like Yeshuah or Yeshu Ha Notzri as he is in the Talmud. (Some people think Jesus is the english pronounciation of Yeshuah but Jesus is actually the anglicised version of the Greek sun god/messiah IESUS.)
Angels don't have a nationality or language so I suppose call them what you want but whats wrong with calling people by their real names.
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37112 And We gave him the good news of the coming of Isaac, a prophet from among the righteous.
Should be
And we gave him good news of Isaac a prophet from the righteous.red is not in the Arabic
Agreed. Out of curiosity, how do these types of errors make it into the translation? It seems straight forward that this shouldn't be there.
Edit I just seen the rules of no discussion in the additional posts on the first page. My apologies for asking the follow-up question.
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Salam,
Agreed. Out of curiosity, how do these types of errors make it into the translation? It seems straight forward that this shouldn't be there.
Thank you. The error has been fixed.
How do they get there? When you translate Arabic, the words give a meaning - sometimes more than just the words written - so, it is a matter of discipline and having checks/balances to make sure that only the words written are the words translated.
This translation has gone through just over a decade of fixes whenever they are noticed - so I would say its very refined.
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Salam aleykoum,
Your translation of verse
556 And the stars and the trees are yielding.
Translating l-najmu as "the stars" is a mistake in the context of this sura.
This word also refers to the notion of "stemless plant, grass, herb", which is more correct here.
Certainly, the term al-najm is a difficulty for commentators and translators is it "the star" or "the herbaceous plant" ? The star would be more appropriate in the context of the sun and the moon, quoted in the previous member (5); but what relation would the star have with the tree, which follows immediately in the same verse ? The grass, on the contrary, forms a homogeneous couple of plants with the tree, in parallel with the two stars, the sun and the moon.
God bless you.
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The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
6151 Say "Come let me recite what your Lord has made unlawful for you that you should not set up anything with Him - and do good to your parents; etc.--- Analysis Unlawful/Forbidden ?
Verse 151 of Sura 6 is putting in place in the Medinan context. It is particularly explicit. It begins by stating what is generally translated as the divine prohibitions, ma harrama allah (2, 175). But in fact it is better to propose another translation if we judge by the content of the verse. So I propose another translation "what your Lord has decreed for you as things to respect (in fact it would be better to translate like that than the usual translation the prohibitions), mâ harrama rabbu-kum 'alay-kum". Then there is a list of things TO DO or NOT TO DO.
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