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Allah is not god, nor the god and has noting to do with the word god

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    loxbox13
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    Allah isn't god, it is The Law , we don't worship the Law, se Serve the Law
    The Quran came to tell US to don't worship any God period.
    it is in front of your Eyes and yet no one can see it.

    Wahid = unique , and never mean one
    Alwahid = The unique and never mean One

    Allah = All Law , the law of the universe, and the Law we supposed to use as a constitution.

    they dribbled us to worship Allah and we don't serve the Law

    the number one of the Quran is Th an ,

    exemple

    Avoid the rages of monotheism - 17

    You serve lower then the Law , Monotheism, wich is a copied fake

    25

    Say You took lower than the Law Monotheisms love appearing commun in the lower life

    If you help him note that the Law hepled , when they brought him out the coverers one of the two when they were at war

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      Halil
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      Man... the devil sure has gotten to you...

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        Kaiokenred
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        You "Unique is not one" WTH Do you think unique is?
        And next time show the number of ayat in which surah,

        Abraham was indeed a model, devoutly obedient to God, (and) true in Faith, and he joined not gods with God
        He showed his gratitude for the favours of God, who chose him, and guided him to a Straight Way.
        And We gave him Good in this world, and he will be, in the Hereafter, in the ranks of the Righteous.
        So We have taught you the inspired (Message), "Follow the ways of Abraham the True in Faith, and he joined not gods with God."
        ?Qur'an, sura 16 (An-Nahl), ayat 120-123

        How can a Law give something to someone? bs.

        grateful for His favors. Allah chose him and guided him to a straight path.

        Can law guide anything?

        And We gave him good in this world, and indeed, in the Hereafter he will be among the righteous.
        Can Law give him anything?

        Then We revealed to you, , to follow the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth; and he was not of those who associate with Allah .

        Can law reveal anything?

        Allah is The God. Simple.

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          Abdun_Nur
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          Salaam,

          the God simple?

          Not so simple, Allah is not God, a god or Goddess is an outside force, no evidence exists for any outside force dominating or controlling the universe, Allah manifests every atom of this reality from the inside out, instant to instant, without that constant re-manifestation nothing would remain.

          One can be of many, one can be an example, or have the potential of increase, while unique has not.

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            Kaiokenred
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            Salaam,

            the God simple?

            Not so simple, Allah is not God, a god or Goddess is an outside force, no evidence exists for any outside force dominating or controlling the universe, Allah manifests every atom of this reality from the inside out, instant to instant, without that constant re-manifestation nothing would remain.

            One can be of many, one can be an example, or have the potential of increase, while unique has not.

            No, God as an outside force was what people THOUGHT it was, before islam. Allah is simply the Real, the Only God, omnipresent, omnipotent. It might be just the way you say it that he manifests everything, but He IS God, the True God, not a fake one of a human's fantasy, when i think of God i don't think of an outside force, but Him to be everywhere, All-ah is God, but not the way people thought Gods were. Amaterasu, Zeus and all other fake Gods, Goddesses, Godlings etc... and Pagan Gods are man-made, they aren't real, they shouldn't be used to interpret the word God, and stop transgressing trying to find a lot about Allah, The Quran makes it clear that we shouldn't know much. Allah is the real example of a God.

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              Abdun_Nur
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              Salaam Kaiokenred,

              you think this God, is a male?

              You are mistaking what you think with what people who think, think, a God is an object of worship, do you worship your male God, is your God the same as the Christian, Jewish God, or do they have their own God. What about all the Gods of other religions, Hindu, Buddhist, even Satanists a branch of the Roman Catholic Church have their God or Gods, are you saying you think their God is the same as your God?

              With all these Gods, how do you know you have chosen the right one, maybe you have only found a religion and an object of worship?

              What evidence have you that your God is more valid than the God of the Christians?

              With you confident statements of a God, you must have solid evidence to support that perspective.

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                Kaiokenred
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                Salaam Kaiokenred,

                you think this God, is a male?

                You are mistaking what you think with what people who think, think, a God is an object of worship, do you worship your male God, is your God the same as the Christian, Jewish God, or do they have their own God. What about all the Gods of other religions, Hindu, Buddhist, even Satanists a branch of the Roman Catholic Church have their God or Gods, are you saying you think their God is the same as your God?

                With all these Gods, how do you know you have chosen the right one, maybe you have only found a religion and an object of worship?

                What evidence have you that your God is more valid than the God of the Christians?

                With you confident statements of a God, you must have solid evidence to support that perspective.

                God is genderless, he's not like humans or other beings to have a gender, and no the God is how its described in Qur'an and i believe the Quran. There are things that increase faith, that the author of Quran predicted 1400 years ago and stuff that weren't known till lately when they were discovered by modern science. You can find them here http//www.quran434.com/Does-God-Exist.pdf

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                  alienayt
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                  So who, or what authored the Qur'an?

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                    unknownuser
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                    So who, or what authored the Qur'an?

                    Exactly. My answer is "the universe".

                    The problem here is that our definitions of what is "the universe" may vary. My definition of universe is "the everything in existence you can think of and then some more that you can't".

                    It is a group effort you see. Every last particle's collective consensus went into writing that book and preserving it. However creator and creation is different. Creator is the original cause. And indeed if we look at the chains of causes and effects of everything, every single thing has a first cause. That first cause is an indescribable singularity. This I believe is what is referred to as "ALLAH", a state of infinite power and infinite knowledge.

                    We have to tread very softly in our words if we are to even think along these lines of "ALLAH = No god". For there is a creator, surely and none can deny that except those who don't see who they truly are. To say "there is no god" is to introduce even more silly confusion into an already confused place. No need. Let's stick with rigorous definitions and find their flaws first.

                    God is an incredibly vague term loaded with all manner of preconceptions. ALLAH is a perfectly crystal clear term, the definition of ALLAH is in the quran for all who have eyes and ears to see and hear. Any preconceptions coming with that term are from misunderstanding that al-quran is also a dictionary defining with perfection exactly who ALLAH is and who ALLAH is not.

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                      sonnie
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                      Allah manifests every atom of this reality from the inside out, instant to instant

                      Unless I am mistaken, there exists NO proof that a local OR omnipresent process/device/energy/conscience/allah/{insert name here}... which continually manifests reality. And certainly none for "instant to instant" manifestation.

                      I believe you can NOT prove Allah exist, nor can you define him (even Qur'an only gives us adjectives and characteristics of Allah).

                      -Salaam )

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                        rahenijaat1
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                        Unless I am mistaken, there exists NO proof that a local OR omnipresent process/device/energy/conscience/allah/{insert name here}... which continually manifests reality. And certainly none for "instant to instant" manifestation.

                        I believe you can NOT prove Allah exist, nor can you define him (even Qur'an only gives us adjectives and characteristics of Allah).

                        -Salaam )

                        Peace!

                        Did u ever contemplate, Who created you?---Or---Did you yourself creat yourself?

                        U claim, your body is yours.-----Do you have complete control over your own body?

                        Can you stop your heart from beating and give it rest, and start it again after it had taken rest?

                        Can you stop your digestion process, and start it again at a desireable time?

                        Can you take away your Sight, and become blind,---and then give back the Sight to your eyes again?

                        No, never!-----U don't have control over your own body!

                        You can not deny the above very few (out of many) facts.

                        Who is controlling you then???
                        Certainly, there is One Who is doing all this to you.
                        Do you know Him???

                        What answer do you come up with???

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                          Abdun_Nur
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                          Salaam,

                          well there is not any God, or Godess, only a Creator, the God concept denotes a physical existence for the created, it exists and cannot be destroyed, while the creator denotes an endless re-manifestation of all things.

                          Theoretical physics provides concepts that explain the evidence, proof is an abstract idea, really we have what is observed, and how we explain that observation, but the observation is all atoms are created into existence from one instant to the next, how you explain that observation is the theory. I use the term atom but an atom is not a physical thing itself, we only conceptualise them as such.

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                            rahenijaat1
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                            Allah isn't god, it is The Law , we don't worship the Law, se Serve the Law
                            The Quran came to tell US to don't worship any God period.
                            it is in front of your Eyes and yet no one can see it.

                            Wahid = unique , and never mean one
                            Alwahid = The unique and never mean One

                            Allah = All Law , the law of the universe, and the Law we supposed to use as a constitution.

                            they dribbled us to worship Allah and we don't serve the Law

                            the number one of the Quran is Th an ,

                            exemple

                            Avoid the rages of monotheism - 17

                            You serve lower then the Law , Monotheism, wich is a copied fake

                            25

                            Say You took lower than the Law Monotheisms love appearing commun in the lower life

                            If you help him note that the Law hepled , when they brought him out the coverers one of the two when they were at war

                            Salam and Peace!

                            Who gave The Law?---Or---The Law came into being by itself?

                            Who commanded us to obey The Law???

                            Are you denying the existance of Allah as A Supreme Being???

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                              Jinn
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                              5922-24

                              Next.

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                                Abdun_Nur
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                                Salaam jinn,

                                ignorance is bliss, investigate the verses and your arrogance my disappear. Next.

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                                  Jinn
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                                  Peace,

                                  114

                                  Say I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind

                                  The King of mankind

                                  The God of mankind

                                  From the Evil of the retreating whisperer

                                  Who whispers in the breasts of mankind

                                  Of Jinns and men

                                  Now, couple of questions

                                  if there is no God, why does the "All Law" tell us to seek refuge in the Ilah, or God, of mankind?

                                  Also, if there is no God, whom, may I ask, is Satan?

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                                    Kaiokenred
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                                    Peace,

                                    114

                                    Say I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind

                                    The King of mankind

                                    The God of mankind

                                    From the Evil of the retreating whisperer

                                    Who whispers in the breasts of mankind

                                    Of Jinns and men

                                    Now, couple of questions

                                    if there is no God, why does the "All Law" tell us to seek refuge in the Ilah, or God, of mankind?

                                    Also, if there is no God, whom, may I ask, is Satan?

                                    hmm bravo

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                                      Raaajah
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                                      To understand Allah let us ponder on the following verse from Surah Noor
                                      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/024.%20An%20Noor/24.35.gif

                                      if we understand What is Noor? we will be very near to the answer

                                      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/024.%20An%20Noor/24.35f.gif

                                      loxbox may be partially correct though his conclusion is a far cry.

                                      Wahid = unique , and never mean one
                                      Alwahid = The unique and never mean One

                                      Unique is an adjective meaning ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND
                                      having no like or equal; unparalleled; incomparable

                                      Therefore when he says

                                      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/112.%20Al%20Ikhlaas/112.1p.gif

                                      You, the Messenger tell the people ;
                                      "The absolute fact is that Allah is the Only One, The Unique, the Solitary, the Absolute;

                                      It means he is the Only One and there is No other that can be compared to him.

                                      Laws don't induct Human beings to convey the messages. Laws are laws they act according to the situation without considering good or bad.

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                                        mmkhan
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                                        Salaam all,

                                        Please help me understand the following aayaats.

                                        11
                                        11 In the name of Allah, the Almighty, the Merciful.

                                        12
                                        12 The Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

                                        220
                                        220 The lightning nearly snatches their sight, whenever it lights the path they walk in it, and when it becomes dark for them they stand. Had Allah willed, He would have taken their hearing and their sight; Allah is capable of all things.

                                        255
                                        255 And you said O Moses, we will not believe you until we see Allah openly! So the lightning strike took you while you were still staring.

                                        274
                                        274 Then your hearts became hardened after that, they became like stone or even harder; but even from stone there are rivers that burst forth, and from them are those that crack so that the water comes forth, and from them are what descends from concern towards Allah; and Allah is not unaware of what you do.

                                        2116
                                        2116 And they said Allah has taken a son! Be He glorified. To Him is all that is in the heavens and the earth, all are dutiful to Him.

                                        2159
                                        2159 Surely those who conceal what We have sent down to them of the clarities and the guidance, after We Had made it clear for the people in the Book; these will be cursed by Allah and be cursed by those who curse.

                                        564
                                        564 And the Jews said The hand of Allah is tied-down! Their hands will be tied-down, and they will be cursed for what they have said. No, His hands are wide open spending as He wills. And for many of them, what has been sent down to you will increase them in rebellion and rejection; and We have cast between them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. Every time they ignite the fire of war, Allah puts it out; and they seek to make corruption in the land; and Allah does not love the corrupters.

                                        695
                                        695 Indeed Allah is the splitter of the seeds and the grains; He brings the living out from the dead and He brings the dead out from the living. Such is Allah; so why are you deluded?

                                        2014
                                        2014 I am Allah, there is no god except Me, so serve Me and hold the contact prayer for My remembrance.

                                        There are hundreds of more aayaats need explanation then...

                                        May Allah guide us all to His ONLY path and open our hearts to understand and accept the truth pr
                                        Mohammed M. Khan

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                                          loxbox13
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                                          Salaam all,

                                          Please help me understand the following aayaats.

                                          11
                                          11 In the name of Allah, the Almighty, the Merciful.

                                          12
                                          12 The Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

                                          220
                                          220 The lightning nearly snatches their sight, whenever it lights the path they walk in it, and when it becomes dark for them they stand. Had Allah willed, He would have taken their hearing and their sight; Allah is capable of all things.

                                          255
                                          255 And you said O Moses, we will not believe you until we see Allah openly! So the lightning strike took you while you were still staring.

                                          274
                                          274 Then your hearts became hardened after that, they became like stone or even harder; but even from stone there are rivers that burst forth, and from them are those that crack so that the water comes forth, and from them are what descends from concern towards Allah; and Allah is not unaware of what you do.

                                          2116
                                          2116 And they said Allah has taken a son! Be He glorified. To Him is all that is in the heavens and the earth, all are dutiful to Him.

                                          2159
                                          2159 Surely those who conceal what We have sent down to them of the clarities and the guidance, after We Had made it clear for the people in the Book; these will be cursed by Allah and be cursed by those who curse.

                                          564
                                          564 And the Jews said The hand of Allah is tied-down! Their hands will be tied-down, and they will be cursed for what they have said. No, His hands are wide open spending as He wills. And for many of them, what has been sent down to you will increase them in rebellion and rejection; and We have cast between them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. Every time they ignite the fire of war, Allah puts it out; and they seek to make corruption in the land; and Allah does not love the corrupters.

                                          695
                                          695 Indeed Allah is the splitter of the seeds and the grains; He brings the living out from the dead and He brings the dead out from the living. Such is Allah; so why are you deluded?

                                          2014
                                          2014 I am Allah, there is no god except Me, so serve Me and hold the contact prayer for My remembrance.

                                          There are hundreds of more aayaats need explanation then...

                                          May Allah guide us all to His ONLY path and open our hearts to understand and accept the truth pr
                                          Mohammed M. Khan

                                          Excuse me brother, but still all these verses doesn't mean Allah is a God, but the Law of All that exist, Translate Allah with the word Law in your verses and you will see it's perfect, a perfect Law that rule everything that exist, and we shall choose to follow the Law of All that exist to be in harmony with all that exist.

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