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Which Ritual Salat is named "Salat al Wusta" as per 2:238 ?

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    unknownuser
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    This discussion depends on "wusta" meaning "middle" - but that is a secondary meaning. The primary meaning is "best" or "more important".

    Peace RedSulphur,

    Can you elaborate on that some more? You are the first person I have seen mention this.

    -Amina

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      mmkhan
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      This discussion depends on "wusta" meaning "middle" - but that is a secondary meaning. The primary meaning is "best" or "more important".

      Salaam RS,

      Even if wusta means best or more important, why is it made different than regular Salaats? Can you answer me please?

      May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
      mmKhan

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        redsulphur1229
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        see
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11539.0

        I don't presume to speak authoritatively regarding why one prayer is more important than another, but I have read the following explanation - during the time of the Prophet, Muslims praying the morning prayer at the Kaaba was not considered contraversial by the pagan Meccans. However, the evening prayer (Salat al-Isha, which actually occurs during what we now call Salat al-Maghrib) coincided with pagan prayer time (clapping of hands etc), and so Muslims were barred from praying at the Kaaba at that time, or harassed. I don't know the credibility of the explanation. i do not recall the author's name - will check.

        Based on my reading of the Quran, there are only 2 prayers (dawn and dusk), named Salat al-Fajr and Salat al-Isha. If there are only 2, then there is no "middle prayer", which means that Salat al-Wusta must mean something else, and the word "wusta" actually does mean something else. That means one of these 2 salats is more important than the other. As to why, Allah knows best.

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          unknownuser
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          see
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11539.0

          I don't presume to speak authoritatively regarding why one prayer is more important than another, but I have read the following explanation - during the time of the Prophet, Muslims praying the morning prayer at the Kaaba was not considered contraversial by the pagan Meccans. However, the evening prayer (Salat al-Isha, which actually occurs during what we now call Salat al-Maghrib) coincided with pagan prayer time (clapping of hands etc), and so Muslims were barred from praying at the Kaaba at that time, or harassed. I don't know the credibility of the explanation. i do not recall the author's name - will check.

          Based on my reading of the Quran, there are only 2 prayers (dawn and dusk), named Salat al-Fajr and Salat al-Isha. If there are only 2, then there is no "middle prayer", which means that Salat al-Wusta must mean something else, and the word "wusta" actually does mean something else. That means one of these 2 salats is more important than the other. As to why, Allah knows best.

          Thank you for the link and explanation. When I was a Christian, we were always taught to pray when we woke up and before retiring for bed in the evening. Part of me thinks that isn't a coincidence with the two salats named in the Qur'an. I believe it was mmkhan that said that "wusta" means "central." Forgive me if I am wrong on that...

          Peace,

          Amina

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            mmkhan
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            Salaam,

            Brother RedSulphur, how to translate ahsana in 3923?

            3923 ...
            3923 Allah has sent down the best statement...

            Please click here to see other translations.

            Can someone let me know at what time should be alSalaat alJuma offered if it is not at middle?

            May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
            mmkhan

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              redsulphur1229
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              mmkhan, Salaams,
              Where is "Salat al-Juma" mentioned in the Quran???

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                mmkhan
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                mmkhan, Salaams,
                Where is "Salat al-Juma" mentioned in the Quran???

                Salaams brother,

                Thanks for correcting me. It is not Salaat alJuma but alSalaat on Juma day which is the day of gathering/meeting.

                May Allah bless you,
                mmKhan

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                  unknownuser
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                  Salaams brother,

                  Thanks for correcting me. It is not Salaat alJuma but alSalaat on Juma day which is the day of gathering/meeting.

                  May Allah bless you,
                  mmKhan

                  mmKhan,

                  So are you saying that you believe the word "wusta" to be referring to the Juma prayer on Fridays?

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                    mmkhan
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                    mmKhan,

                    So are you saying that you believe the word "wusta" to be referring to the Juma prayer on Fridays?

                    Salaam Amina,

                    Yes, you understood correctly yes

                    May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                    mmKhan

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                      unknownuser
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                      Salaam Amina,

                      Yes, you understood correctly yes

                      May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                      mmKhan

                      So then, the meaning "central" is not implying a time or place, but a level of importance?

                      Peace,

                      Amina

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                        mmkhan
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                        So then, the meaning "central" is not implying a time or place, but a level of importance?

                        Peace,

                        Amina

                        Peace Amina,

                        Yes not implying a time or place, and I did not use the word central because it may show you a level of importance, so, I used middle instead. To me, all Salaats are important, no important than other because all are for Allah. What could be the reason of making any Salaat important over other Salaats? I don't see any reason.

                        But alSalaat on Juma or day of meeting is important because of added Allah's zikr before Salaat.

                        629
                        629 O you who have believed, when is called for the prayer on the day of gathering/meeting, then proceed to the remembrance of Allah and leave selling. That is better for you, if you only knew.

                        Please click here to see other translations.

                        Please note that for remembrance of Allah, we have to leave selling and hasten to join in and it is also said, that is better for you if you knew.

                        Another aayat showing the importance of remembrance of Allah is 2945.

                        2945
                        2945 Recite, what has been revealed to you of the Book and establish prayer. Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing, and the remembrance of Allah is greater. And Allah knows that which you do.

                        Please click here to see other translations.

                        Hope you understand what I am saying, inshaAllah.

                        May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                        mmKhan

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                          unknownuser
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                          Peace Amina,

                          Yes not implying a time or place, and I did not use the word central because it may show you a level of importance, so, I used middle instead. To me, all Salaats are important, no important than other because all are for Allah. What could be the reason of making any Salaat important over other Salaats? I don't see any reason.

                          But alSalaat on Juma or day of meeting is important because of added Allah's zikr before Salaat.

                          629
                          629 O you who have believed, when is called for the prayer on the day of gathering/meeting, then proceed to the remembrance of Allah and leave selling. That is better for you, if you only knew.

                          Please click here to see other translations.

                          Please note that for remembrance of Allah, we have to leave selling and hasten to join in and it is also said, that is better for you if you knew.

                          Another aayat showing the importance of remembrance of Allah is 2945.

                          2945
                          2945 Recite, what has been revealed to you of the Book and establish prayer. Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing, and the remembrance of Allah is greater. And Allah knows that which you do.

                          Please click here to see other translations.

                          Hope you understand what I am saying, inshaAllah.

                          May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                          mmKhan

                          I apologize. I thought it was you who said that "wusta" meant "central."

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                            mmkhan
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                            I apologize. I thought it was you who said that "wusta" meant "central."

                            Peace Amina,

                            That is OK, no need to apologize. We may mistake when studying different opinions by different people.

                            mmKhan

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                              redsulphur1229
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                              mmkhan, Salaams
                              Where does the word "Juma" occur in 629? I see yaum ul jumuah (day of gathering), but no reference to "juma".

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                                Wakas
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                                Best thread so far on al salat al wusta, in my view
                                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7727.0

                                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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