After Bush Kills Saddam Hussein, Hussein Obama Kills Osama
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What has happened in Abbotabad pakistan, is a major retaliation of Raymond Davis case. Last month ISI chief visited USA and confronted the top officials regarding CIA's secret designs on Pakistan. Irrefutable evidence was presented showing that USA/CIA was the master mind behind creating the so called Pakistani Taliban, who carry out frequent bomb blasts / suicide bombings inside Pakistan with an aim to destabilize /defragment the country to finish it off as a nuclear power.
There it was made clear that? now you are breaching our Red lines, and a major paradigm change by US is needed to assure, that we continue to remain allies in the so called war against terror. As the CIA was caught with pants down, so they had no option but to accept some conditions before reaching an arrangement for the release of their high value spy (Raymond Davis)
Soon after, a campaign was started by USA to malign ISI and Pakistan, as to depict it as a NON cooperating terrorist organization/state. SO, now we were waiting for some major false flag operation by USA to pin down ISI / Pakistan to regain its lost leverage.
There was no Osama in that house, he is long dead, or most likely he was picked up and ushered to some secret place by CIA before 9/11, It was strongly rumored that in July or august of 2001 he was kidnapped from a small hospital in Peshawar Pakistan where he used to make secret but frequent visits for dialysis.
He was to be evaporated and used as a bogey for creating the NWO in grand design, and that is what most likely happened, if not, rest assured he was bombed to death, or captured after the invasion of Afghanistan.Following is my vision of the incident,
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Osama could not be living in near vicinity of a highly sensitive military cantonment (Pakistan?s military academy) with such obvious indicators, and believing that agencies did not know about it or overlooked it? Next to impossible!
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ISI /military can?t be that stupid to provide ? protective living? to Osama himself in such an obvious manner.
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However there could have been some high value targets in that house, which could be One of Osama?s wife and children living in secretive/ protective custody of ISI on humanitarian grounds.
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To get even USA/CIA raided and captured some evidence which could be connected to Osama , and looks like they managed to do it successfully
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They also decided to finally/officially declare Osama?s demise to score points at home for coming elections, and to justify withdrawal from Afghanistan , the war which they are losing rapidly
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By doing this they have successfully maligned ISI/military to be portrayed as terrorist protectors and blame the loosing war on Pakistan. And in return would try and negotiate reestablishment of CIA operatives and other important objectives.
At the moment, our military establishment is assessing the damage and sorting out its strategy, hopefully in a day or two, they would come out with an appropriate response.
Peace
sikiSalaam
Thank you Siki for informed mail, we need to read more about reality rather than high drama
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Salam and Peace!
Salaam
Thank you Siki for informed mail, we need to read more about reality rather than high drama
God blessAnd,---Allah tells The Reality
-----"And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And Allah forgives much.
And you cannot escape (from Allah) in the earth. And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper." (Al-Shura-30,31)Allah's Quran is The Only Truth in the universe.
Now please read the above quoted Verses again
"And whatever of misfortune (Osama bin Laden's terrorism, Black Water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, load shedding, dearness, muslims hate each others on the ground of language, sect, province, etc.) befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned (because you have turned away from Allah's Book of Commandments and disobeying It). And Allah forgives much (if you, the so-called muslims, ask His forgiveness and return to His Quraan).-------And (if you the muslims do not return to Allah's Holy Quraan, then remember that) you cannot escape (from Allah, means His Wrath and Azaab in the shape of American Supermacy, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, etc, that Allah has brought on you because of your disobedience) in the earth.
And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper (to save you from American attacks, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks etc)."
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Salam and Peace!
And,---Allah tells The Reality
-----"And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And Allah forgives much.
And you cannot escape (from Allah) in the earth. And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper." (Al-Shura-30,31)Allah's Quran is The Only Truth in the universe.
Now please read the above quoted Verses again
"And whatever of misfortune (Osama bin Laden's terrorism, Black Water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, load shedding, dearness, muslims hate each others on the ground of language, sect, province, etc.) befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned (because you have turned away from Allah's Book of Commandments and disobeying It). And Allah forgives much (if you, the so-called muslims, ask His forgiveness and return to His Quraan).-------And (if you the muslims do not return to Allah's Holy Quraan, then remember that) you cannot escape (from Allah, means His Wrath and Azaab in the shape of American Supermacy, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, etc, that Allah has brought on you because of your disobedience) in the earth.
And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper (to save you from American attacks, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks etc)."
(Al-Shura-30,31)Salaam
And what does Allah say, when you hears news do not take it on face value do bit of fact finding (not exact words).
Regarding state of Pakistani of course I have exactly same views as yours, see my other posts on Libya and just because Siki told her other side of story does not mean Pakistans problems with disappear no way unless they change state of their affair Allah will not change their state.
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Salam and Peace!
And,---Allah tells The Reality
-----"And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And Allah forgives much.
And you cannot escape (from Allah) in the earth. And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper." (Al-Shura-30,31)Allah's Quran is The Only Truth in the universe.
Now please read the above quoted Verses again
"And whatever of misfortune (Osama bin Laden's terrorism, NATO Attack on Libya, Black Water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, load shedding, dearness, muslims hate each others on the ground of language, sect, province, etc.) befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned (because you have turned away from Allah's Book of Commandments and disobeying It). And Allah forgives much (if you, the so-called muslims, ask His forgiveness and return to His Quraan).-------And (if you the muslims do not return to Allah's Holy Quraan, then remember that) you cannot escape (from Allah, means His Wrath and Azaab in the shape of American Supermacy, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, etc, that Allah has brought on you because of your disobedience) in the earth.
And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper (to save you from American attacks, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks etc)."
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The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events yeah
http//www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
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American and NATO forces are already on the borders of Pakistan. If the people of Pakistan do not return back to their Allah's Quraan, then sure it is their turn now.----- Nobody can stop Allah's Wrath and Azaab which is falling upon the misguided Ummah
"And whatever of misfortune (Osama bin Laden's terrorism, NATO Attack on Libya, Black Water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, load shedding, dearness, muslims hate each others on the ground of language, sect, province, etc.) befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned (because you have turned away from Allah's Book of Commandments and disobeying It). And Allah forgives much (if you, the so-called muslims, ask His forgiveness and return to His Quraan).-------And (if you the muslims do not return to Allah's Holy Quraan, then remember that) you cannot escape (from Allah, means His Wrath and Azaab in the shape of American Supermacy, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, etc, that Allah has brought on you because of your disobedience) in the earth.
And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper (to save you from American attacks, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks etc)."
(Al-Shura-30,31)http//www.scribd.com/doc/54558735/Allah-s-Azaab-on-the-Last-Ummah
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American and NATO forces are already on the borders of Pakistan. If the people of Pakistan do not return back to their Allah's Quraan, then sure it is their turn now.----- Nobody can stop Allah's Wrath and Azaab which is falling upon the misguided Ummah
"And whatever of misfortune (Osama bin Laden's terrorism, NATO Attack on Libya, Black Water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, load shedding, dearness, muslims hate each others on the ground of language, sect, province, etc.) befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned (because you have turned away from Allah's Book of Commandments and disobeying It). And Allah forgives much (if you, the so-called muslims, ask His forgiveness and return to His Quraan).-------And (if you the muslims do not return to Allah's Holy Quraan, then remember that) you cannot escape (from Allah, means His Wrath and Azaab in the shape of American Supermacy, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks, etc, that Allah has brought on you because of your disobedience) in the earth.
And for you other than Allah there is not any Protector, nor a Helper (to save you from American attacks, CIA, Black water, drone attacks, suicidal attacks etc)."
(Al-Shura-30,31)http//www.scribd.com/doc/54558735/Allah-s-Azaab-on-the-Last-Ummah
SO, what are you getting out of these repeated postings?
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Salam and Peace, respected brother!
SO, what are you getting out of these repeated postings?
I am not putting before people my own concepts to gain some interests.
I am only putting before them our Allah's Exalted Verses.
Allah's Verses are the only Blessings in the universe, and warn people,-----so that they could come to The Right Path (Al-Quran only) to save themselves from defeat, downfall and humiliation at the hands of the kuffaar, in this worldly life----and from hellfire, in The Hereafter.Are people not just beating about the bush to find The Reality???
Allah alone knows "The Reality" of this American "drama, deception,fraud and corruption", going on against the mankind.
And as such,---The biggest corruption ever, against the mankind is the corruption in Islam, done by human-satans.
The most corrupt class has always been the Clergies of different nations (ummahs).
These are the Ulama Karam (clergies) of the previous ummahs who always hid The Revealed Truth from people and took them to mentioning, remembering and worshipping the Prophets and dead pious people.Same corruption was committed against the muslim ummah, by the Persian Imams in the shape of "man-made books of fabrications, lies and fraud" sinfully linked with names of the righteous Sahaba and The Messenger.
Indeed, this is a blasphemy against the Prophet and the rightly guided Sahaba.
Things they never said, and no one heard them saying with their ears,---are attributed to them.Again, the real and biggest criminal is the "Muslim Ummah" itself, who fall on these books of fabrications and lies, like flies fall on sweets. The whole of the ummah (99.99%) has taken these books of lies, as Deen.
So, sad.There are a lot of people of the muslim ummah who think Usama bin Laden was on The Right Path, and was a hero, and should be followed.
In Pakistan, Lashkar-e-Taibah and Jama'ut-ud-Dawah, and all the "waging-a-war-against-america-minded" people favour this terrorism in the name of Islam.People themselves are criminals, when they run away from Allah (His Quran), and take refuge in the fabrications and lies in the man-made books of ahadith. These fabricatons and lies have taken them to committing sins, hatred, extremism and terrorism, and killing, and favouring them, morally, financially and actively.
We can only come to know about this corruption, when we read The Creator's Safe and Holy Quran. Allah Reveals their corruption in His Exalted Quran.
But the muslim as a whole have deserted Allah, and His Quran, and running after man-made Islam (Sahih Al-Bukhari, etc.), that is why Allah's Wrath and Azaab is falling upon them.
-----"Then if there comes to you A Guidance from Me, then whoever follows My Guidance, he will not astray, nor fall into misery (in this world and The Hereafter). And whoever turns away from My Remembrance (Al-Quran), indeed then for him is a life of hardship (downfall, Azaab and humiliation in this world), and We shall gather him on the The Judgement Day blind." (Tahaa-123,124)
In the above Verses,-----"A Guidance from Me"-----and-----"whoever follows My Guidance"-----So, we have to follow Allah's Guidance that came from Allah alone. (We are not to follow Sahih Al-Bukhari, etc., they are not from Allah)
Then, for such people who only, and only, follow The Guidance from Allah alone-----"he will not astray, nor fall into misery"-----Yes, Allah guarantees, that he will not fall into any misery (American superiority, downfall, humiliation at the hands of kuffaar, and the likes).And whoever, rejects Allah's Guidance alone, and sets up partners with Allah's Guidance, he will live a life of hardship in this world (Downfall, humiliation, superiority of kuffaar over them).---and more on The Judgement Day.
Nice and respected brother!
I am only giving people a call towards Allah's Quran.I hope you would not object my posts.
Okay!---Next time, I will try to change wordings of my posts.Allah's easy-to-understand Verses have always irritated people---who love this worldly life, and who love to commit sins, and again who love to go to Paradise by dint of Shafa'ut (Intercession) from the Prophet on The Judgement Day.
Such people of the last ummah are angry when Allah is mentioned (His Quran),---and are happy when their favorite Imams and Ulama Karam are mentioned.
Their favorite Imams and Ulama Karam, Sheikhs have done for them what Allah did not do for them.
They brought fabricated Deen for them.
They are happy when Imam Bukhari is mentioned.-----Aren't they???-----"And when Allah, the One is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter are filled with disgust. And when those (whom they worship) besides Him are mentioned, behold, they rejoice." (Al-Zumur-45)
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For 10 years, Osama bin Laden filled a gap left by the Soviet Union. Who will be the baddie now? Adam Curtis of the guardian.co/uk wonders.
voodoo Gaddaffi or >D Assad, why not elect one democratically hmm.
simplsBy Jennifer Lipman, May 5, 2011
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei yay
With Osama bin Laden dead, Iran's supreme leader is the biggest threat to global security, Binyamin Netanyahu said in an interview today......
The future of the world - the future of the Middle East - is certainly at stake."
http//www.thejc.com/news/israel-news/48567/after-bin-laden-irans-khamenei-biggest-threatNo democratic election just selection by Isreali Simpls
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When the oldies have all gone, the youngsters who have freed themselves from the past will make the peace. Yes, Palestine-Israel included... Watch when the children are asking the big "why" question.
It may look all dirty but could it also be... the scraping off of the old foundations? Watched movies lately? Is it weird for the so called bad guys to dig each other's graves?
Is this really free-minds after all? Maybe it's time to look inside?
Rather than keep on picking up on the drama that is the World News...
hmm...
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When the oldies have all gone, the youngsters who have freed themselves from the past will make the peace. Yes, Palestine-Israel included... Watch when the children are asking the big "why" question.
It may look all dirty but could it also be... the scraping off of the old foundations? Watched movies lately? Is it weird for the so called bad guys to dig each other's graves?
Is this really free-minds after all? Maybe it's time to look inside?
Rather than keep on picking up on the drama that is the World News...
hmm...
Mass media has done lot of damage to many innocent people and nations. We must speak up and make everyone aware what drama media is playing we cannot just let them spread all sorts of false information so yes we must confront media and the news maker at every opportunity and make fun of their lies so they duck their heads down in shame.
You want to base you idea of future on some movie good for I too liked Avatar and that is what will happen from what I can gather. Simpls
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Mass media has done lot of damage to many innocent people and nations. We must speak up and make everyone aware what drama media is playing we cannot just let them spread all sorts of false information so yes we must confront media and the news maker at every opportunity and make fun of their lies so they duck their heads down in shame.
Yes you're right. We gotta speak up and raise awareness, and parodies that are actually funny do indeed have their own place. Here's a suggestion though instead of just ridiculing the drama (fuels it up you know, just like feeding the troll--troll don't feel shame, don't you notice?) why not also bring up the good news, for the drama (and all the consequent dramas caused by them in many places including in messageboards like this) thrives on attention.
e.g., google/yahoo/bing "clean water in Africa", "japan earthquake recovery". charity news, attempts to make peace, lives rescued etc etc... Oh but the good news are boring! sanswink
You want to base you idea of future on some movie good for I too liked Avatar and that is what will happen from what I can gather. Simpls
No, it is based on our potentials and what's already happening. So we're into the same idea for the future? That's good! sanswink
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Yes you're right. We gotta speak up and raise awareness, and parodies that are actually funny do indeed have their own place. Here's a suggestion though instead of just ridiculing the drama (fuels it up you know, just like feeding the troll--troll don't feel shame, don't you notice?) why not also bring up the good news, for the drama (and all the consequent dramas caused by them in many places including in messageboards like this) thrives on attention.
e.g., google/yahoo/bing "clean water in Africa", "japan earthquake recovery". charity news, attempts to make peace, lives rescued etc etc... Oh but the good news are boring! sanswink
I did try to bring awareness about an inspirational figure a faqir named Edhi of Edhi foundations but none took much interest including you so do not preach what you do not follow,
Peter Oborne said this about him
In the course of my duties as a reporter I have met presidents, prime ministers, and reigning monarchs. Until meeting the Pakistani social worker Abdul Sattar Edhi, I had never met a saint. Within a few moments of shaking hands I knew beyond doubt I was in the presence of moral and spiritual greatness.......Mr Edhi's autobiography, published in 1996 and beautifully ghosted by the writer Tehmina Durrani,........And it is indeed the case that parts of his profound and inexpressibly moving autobiography carry the same weight and integrity as great poetry or even scripture;
http//www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/articles/pakistan-defenders-of-karachi-local-heroNo, it is based on our potentials and what's already happening. So we're into the same idea for the future? That's good! sanswink
For our potential read Edhi?s autobiography and even if we try to reach an iota of his charitable characteristic we will make a difference. You can get book about his life in return for a small donation to his charity and this book should be read by everyone as we have a living example for all to follow a very good Muslim according as I see a Muslim should
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Hey there, IMHO/Simpls, how are you?
The last thing i want when posting is that for my words to be taken personally in a some kind of a 'teaching' note (eh dammit i think i better hone my technique here laugh.
No it wasn't personal. Just because a post is next to yours doesn't mean it's all about/directed at you. Though then you replied as you liked to so i replied as i liked to. And it's alright.
And actually i have read that page you linked before, and yes i felt something about that man Edhi. and i thank you for that. And there are a few more people like him, whom i'd like to call the masters of love/compassion/benevolence. And the invitation is right here for us to become like them, the living example as you say... so it is indeed a good time to look inside, isn't it? No, that wasn't personal
sanssmile
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update
Looks like the place was a "safe house", where protective hybernation was provided to the families of "martyred agents". One of Bin Laden's wife/family being among them, is a strong possibility.
CIA planned to raid, pick up, and fly away with evidence, but failed.
After Raymond Davis, CIA probably would not risk Americans (SEALS) in such a mission and looks like they sent in trained afghan Special Forces.
A HAWK" went down due unknown reasons, and exploded (After it came back to pick up the load that it had initially dropped) People rushed to the scene for help thinking it to be a Pakistan army chopper. Eye witnesses confirm seeing dead, and body parts lying at crash site. Meanwhile troops reached and cordoned off the area.
Standby HAWKS flew in, but seeing the situation at crash site, opted for an exit (raiders could not take away any of the evidence or , their own from the area)
Back in CONTROL ROOM, high ups envisaged a scenario similar to disastrous Iranian hostage rescue mission of 1980, but successfully salvaged it by shocking the world (and us) with outrageous lies.
Well-done Uncle Sam bravoSiki
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First, read the official disclosure of the details of mission here
http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110517/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_raidThey officially claim and authenticate, that two stealth modified black hawk choppers were sent, along with a pair of Chinooks.
Chinook is one of the largest cargo helicopter in the world with a radar cross section of a large airliner.If i want to carry out a mission stealthily and don't want to be picked up by radars, why would i send Chinooks with stealthy black hawks, which would guarantee a radar pick up of the incoming raid ???
Chinook can pick up truck loads , a few women and children were nothing, why would osama's wives and children be left behind ( when, now they are asking pak authorities to gain access for interrogations) SO , the official story is nothing but bull shit.
siki
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They claim,
A chopper went down because it could not hover due relatively hot temp/thin air (miscalculation) rotfl
If they made this mistake, Imagine, what would happen to all the routine chopper take offs/hovers, everyday, we should have 1000,s of helicopters crashes every day due this reason alone.
Every one knows that Abbottabad is a hill station, and is famous for its relatively cool temperatures , Not Hot.
Moreover, any helicopter if it can take off with a given load, would become lighter after an hour of flight ( burning a significant amount of carried fuel) and hence would be able to hover much easily.
This is ABC, ask any aviator.
siki