Response to a message I received regarding my forum title

[Student_of_Allah]

Salam all,

I received the following message from a brother in the forum who was highly concerned about my forum name "Student of Allah"

The message ( in red )
Al Salam alukom

How you doing first?

Your nick name took my attention, as you know my friend that we should be following the Ancestors, and as far as a know that we can be called the students of the profit, and that the teaches isn't from the names of Allah, but from his names the All-Knowing (Aleem), and that the scholars and the ancestors never used this name before (Student of Allah) (All the good things in following the ancestors and all the evil at the Innovation of the successors), And Allah knows much better.

My open response

1. I did not get the part about following ancestors ? What do you mean my brother , are you saying that the prophets should have been idol worshiper as their ancestors ? or do you mean that I should not ride a Lamborghini because my forefathers rode camels ? or you mean that you should not use the internet because your ancestors have not used it ?

2. Now comes the part of explaining my name "Student of Allah". Even though its pretty much straight forward, some people do need explanations. We agree that Allah explains the Qur'an. We know that Allah teaches us by the Pen(knowledge). We know that Allah allows us to learn , otherwise it would be impossible for us to even understand that we exist. Allah's words inspired me to explore so many areas of science and human psychology etc. Allah is my teacher, without His will, not a single atom in my brain would function. So my primary teacher is the teacher of the worlds, the source of knowledge, Allah. I have absolute faith that this teacher does not teach me the wrong thing.

Now if your scholars are afraid to give all the credits to Allah, why not go and question them instead ?

May Allah guide us all

PEACE

------ Student of Allah

[CavemanDoctor]

Who cares? You don't have to answer to anyone. Your name does not violate any forum rules.

In short, screw the guy who sent you the PM.

[TheNabi]

Peace

I'm suprised he did not send me such a message.

Joe

[AbdAlRahman]

Al Salam alukom

Will first. The profit said" " which means that the best people at all times are the people at the time of the profit, then the people who followed them at the second century and then the third.

Allah said
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The vanguard (of Islam) the first of those who forsook (their homes) and of those who gave them aid, and (also) those who follow them in (all) good deeds, well pleased is God with them, as are they with him for them hath he prepared gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever that is the supreme felicity

Al Imam Malik SaidNothing is good for the latter generations of this ummah except that which was good for its first generations.

Which means that the religion is complete, and that the ancestors have told us all the religion, and that before we say or do something at religion we should see what they did first.

And as you see here we aren't speaking about life issues, when the profit said "All innovations are innovations of misguidance". which means innovations at religion not life issues.

I wasn't speaking about the nick name specifically, but about a method and a way.

Allah said " "

Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from his path, and who receive guidance

And regarding our relationship between us and Allah, it isn't a relation between a student and a teacher, it is a relation between a slave and a creator, the profit the best man at all, said i am only a slave of Allah and his profit.

Allah said

It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;(Jumah622)

So as you can see that Allah sent to us a profit, and the profit is the one who instructed and taught us.

finally

which means people to their scholars like kids to their fathers.

[Paradox_Uncreated]

"his signs" yes. The verses of the Quran, is the instruction.

[san]

The religion is so complete we don't need to think. 'Them before thy brains!'

Ever read the seerah (of the Prophet, not the profit)? Remember "Lion of Allah", "Sword of Allah"? And here's someone using the ID "Student of Allah"...

What is your argument really? To follow the Ahl Sunnah wal Jama'ah, 1st gen?

Welcome!

(this post is for the newcomer, peace on you too)

[Jafar]

Follow the righteous ancestors..

Yes I'm so familiar with this kind of bunch.. and their jargons..
They're the 'Salaful Al-Salih'.. (The pious predecessors) the yet another sectarian branch of a sectarian group called sunnism...
Albeit they themselves reject 'sectarianism' (read other groups are sectarians while they are not sectarian, although they themselves show the characteristics of sectarian themselves)

Within their group they also split into smaller smaller multiple groups...
Among those groups there are those who are crazily obsessed with 'salvation from Mahdi' ideas. They managed to do a 'mini rebellion'..
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_Seizure

Ignore them.. your nick are fine...

Salam / Peace

[AbdAlRahman]

Follow the righteous ancestors..

Yes I'm so familiar with this kind of bunch.. and their jargons..
They're the 'Salaful Al-Salih'.. (The pious predecessors) the yet another sectarian branch of a sectarian group called sunnism...
Albeit they themselves reject 'sectarianism' (read other groups are sectarians while they are not sectarian, although they themselves show the characteristics of sectarian themselves)

Within their group they also split into smaller smaller multiple groups...
Among those groups there are those who are crazily obsessed with 'salvation from Mahdi' ideas. They managed to do a 'mini rebellion'..
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_Seizure

Ignore them.. your nick are fine...

Salam / Peace

Al Salam alukom

I will not continue in this argument, because some of you have gone away from the right way of argument, and aren't behaved with the manners of the prophet peace upon him in argument.

But i want to say one last thing to Jafar.

Beware of what you say about Allah, and learn before you speak, what i mean by this, what you said

The Arabs (al-arabu) are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know the limits of what God has sent upon His messenger
997

Allah never said Arabs, but he said "" Nomads. And there is a big difference between them if you knew.

[Jafar]

The Arabs (al-arabu) are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know the limits of what God has sent upon His messenger
997
Allah never said Arabs, but he said "" Nomads. And there is a big difference between them if you knew.

Come on don't kid me...
It does said 'Al A'rabu"... it doesn't said Nomads..
Linguistically Arab / Arav means 'desert'.. in ancient semitic language.. The Arab / Arav in reference to people mean 'desert folks'..
But certainly it's far away from Nomads ("Those who are wandering / doesn't have any fixed settlement&quot..

The notion of "Arab" as race / people doesn't exist until recently, this century to be exact... due to the 'arab nationalism' movement, if that what you meant by "Arabs" that is...
Just like the notion of "Indians" as a race / people also doesn't exist until recently...

Salam / Peace

[AbdAlRahman]

Come on don't kid me...
It does said 'Al A'rabu"... it doesn't said Nomads..
Linguistically Arab / Arav means 'desert'.. in ancient semitic language.. The Arab / Arav in reference to people mean 'desert folks'..
But certainly it's far away from Nomads ("Those who are wandering / doesn't have any fixed settlement&quot..

The notion of "Arab" as race / people doesn't exist until recently, this century to be exact... due to the 'arab nationalism' movement, if that what you meant by "Arabs" that is...
Just like the notion of "Indians" as a race / people also doesn't exist until recently...

Salam / Peace

First of all the verse says "" and there is a difference between arab "" and Nomads ""

(The Nomads are the worst in disbelief and hypocrisy, and more likely to not know the limits which Allah has revealed to His Messenger.)

That the first thing.

The second thing

The Arabs aren't a recent nation as you said.

The arabs are divided into more than one type, and they exist before ismail son of ibrahim peace upon them, and they are divided of pure arabs (originally from yemen) and ( &#1607 which means became arabs and weren't originally arabs.

And if you said that in the verse that it means that the people who lives at the desert, so in this way you are insulting the companions and the first generation.

And the profit said " " (there is no difference between an Arab and an Ajam (not an Arab), only by goodness?. )

So at the end there is a big difference between arabs, at which the profit is one of them, and the Nomads whom where mentioned at the verse

Pre Islamic Arabia

The Arabian Peninsula was largely arid and volcanic, making agriculture difficult except near oases or springs. The landscape was thus dotted with towns and cities, two prominent ones being Mecca and Medina. Medina was a large flourishing agricultural settlement, while Mecca was an important financial center for many surrounding tribes. Communal life was essential for survival in the desert conditions, as people needed support against the harsh environment and lifestyle. Tribal grouping was encouraged by the need to act as a unit, this unity being based on the bond of kinship by blood. Indigenous Arabs were either nomadic or sedentary, the former constantly travelling from one place to another seeking water and pasture for their flocks, while the latter settled and focused on trade and agriculture. Nomadic survival was also dependent on raiding caravans or oases, the nomads not viewing this as a crime.

In pre-Islamic Arabia, gods or goddesses were viewed as protectors of individual tribes, their spirits being associated with sacred trees, stones, springs and wells. As well as being the site of an annual pilgrimage, the Kaaba shrine in Mecca housed 360 idol statues of tribal patron deities. Aside from these gods, the Arabs shared a common belief in a supreme deity called Allah (literally "the god&quot, who was remote from their everyday concerns and thus not the object of cult or ritual. Three goddesses were associated with Allah as his daughters Allt, Mant and al-?Uzz?. Monotheistic communities existed in Arabia, including Christians and Jews. Hanifs ? native pre-Islamic Arab monotheists ? are also sometimes listed alongside Jews and Christians in pre-Islamic Arabia, although their historicity is disputed amongst scholars. According to Muslim tradition, Muhammad himself was a Hanif and one of the descendants of Ishmael, son of Abraham.

See this link
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad

[mentallooser]

Salam all,

I received the following message from a brother in the forum who was highly concerned about my forum name "Student of Allah"

The message ( in red )
Al Salam alukom

How you doing first?

Your nick name took my attention, as you know my friend that we should be following the Ancestors, and as far as a know that we can be called the students of the profit, and that the teaches isn't from the names of Allah, but from his names the All-Knowing (Aleem), and that the scholars and the ancestors never used this name before (Student of Allah) (All the good things in following the ancestors and all the evil at the Innovation of the successors), And Allah knows much better.

My open response

1. I did not get the part about following ancestors ? What do you mean my brother , are you saying that the prophets should have been idol worshiper as their ancestors ? or do you mean that I should not ride a Lamborghini because my forefathers rode camels ? or you mean that you should not use the internet because your ancestors have not used it ?

2. Now comes the part of explaining my name "Student of Allah". Even though its pretty much straight forward, some people do need explanations. We agree that Allah explains the Qur'an. We know that Allah teaches us by the Pen(knowledge). We know that Allah allows us to learn , otherwise it would be impossible for us to even understand that we exist. Allah's words inspired me to explore so many areas of science and human psychology etc. Allah is my teacher, without His will, not a single atom in my brain would function. So my primary teacher is the teacher of the worlds, the source of knowledge, Allah. I have absolute faith that this teacher does not teach me the wrong thing.

Now if your scholars are afraid to give all the credits to Allah, why not go and question them instead ?

May Allah guide us all

PEACE

------ Student of Allah

Some people get far too serious about their ideas. Taking a step back and looking at things in context is what I feel we really should be doing. Your name is awesome, keep it, I see nothing at all wrong with it in the slightest. Party on.

[Jafar]

First of all the verse says "" and there is a difference between arab "" and Nomads ""

(The Nomads are the worst in disbelief and hypocrisy, and more likely to not know the limits which Allah has revealed to His Messenger.)

That the first thing.

The second thing

The Arabs aren't a recent nation as you said.

The arabs are divided into more than one type, and they exist before ismail son of ibrahim peace upon them, and they are divided of pure arabs (originally from yemen) and ( &#1607 which means became arabs and weren't originally arabs.

And if you said that in the verse that it means that the people who lives at the desert, so in this way you are insulting the companions and the first generation.

Pure Arabs from Yemen?? LOL )

The Quran does say and this is undebatable "Al-Arabu ashadu kufran wa nifaqa"..

Anyway dude I'm not going to debate further on the meaning of Al-A'rabu with you here...
To me Al-A'rabu mean Al-A'rabu... literally translated as "The Arabs" or "The Desert People" .. not 'Nomads'..

I understand your POV now given you're a 'salaf'.. and you shall do your best to defend 'the righteous ancestors'...

Please note that within other section of the Quran, it also said that "Not all Arabs are like that, and there are also arabs who are basically good people".. I left you to seek out that verse yourself..

Having said that..

The reason that I mentioned that specific verse is.. because I DO AGREE WITH IT!
The arabs sunnis , salafis included, often mentioned verses from Quran which promotes their own view of hatred and stereotyping towards other sectarian groups.. especially towards Jews (Yehudim) and Christians. While they NEVER do a self-criticism that the same book also did mentioned the same bad things (if not worse) about their own..
This is a blatant indicator of HYPOCRISY!..

As with the case about Al-Arabu/The Arabs there are also verses which mentioned that "Not all of them (Jews/Xtians) are like that, there are also those who are really good people".

That is of course a small example, there are many others example of hypocrisy within modern (today) arab society....

Before you, me or anybody else tried to fix other group of society.. better do a self criticism and fix our own...

Salam / Peace

[TruthBehindIt]

Salam and Peace on you!

Al Salam alukom

Will first. The profit said" " which means that the best people at all times are the people at the time of the profit, then the people who followed them at the second century and then the third.

Did you yourself hear the Prophet saying all this?-----No! Never!
Then how can you claim that the Prophet said this, when he knew nothing of the future

-----"Say (O Messenger) ?I do not say to you that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor that I know the Unseen." (650)

Indeed, the best people of this last Ummah are those who were the Sahaba of the Messenger.
What made them the best of the ummah?-----Indeed, they obeyed the Messenger by following Al-Quran, the way they saw the Messenger himself following It.

So, all those people on the earth, until Al-Qiyamah, who follow Al-Quran, are the best of the ummah.

Which means that the religion is complete, and that the ancestors have told us all the religion, and that before we say or do something at religion we should see what they did first.

What is Allah's Quran for???
Is it not a Complete and Fully Detailed Book?

And how can we see our ancestors what they did, when all of them have passed away and are no more with us?---We can not see them, or hear and talk to them.

Allah has stopped us from establishing any kind of relationship with the Sahaba of the Messenger.

-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do." (Al-Baqarah-134)

Allah's Quran is what the Messenger himself followed, what the Sahaba followed, and what we have to follow.

And regarding our relationship between us and Allah, it isn't a relation between a student and a teacher, it is a relation between a slave and a creator, the profit the best man at all, said i am only a slave of Allah and his profit.

-----"The Beneficent. Has taught the Quran. He has created man. He has taught him speech." (551-4)

What do you call the one who teaches you?-----Indeed, Teacher.

So, Allah who created us, is our Creator.
The Creator taught us to speak.
And The Creator taught us His Exalted Quran.

So, Allah is The Teacher, indeed.

Allah said

It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered an apostle from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;(Jumah622)

So as you can see that Allah sent to us a profit, and the profit is the one who instructed and taught us.

So, the fact is that the Messenger is not with us. He has passed away.
In fact, It was Allah's Quran with which the Messenger taught people.
So, Allah's Quran is with us. The Easiest Book on the face of the earth.
Read it and follow Its Teachings.

finally

which means people to their scholars like kids to their fathers.

The above words are not a Verse from Al-Quran.

There is no institution of Clergies in Al-Quran. We don't need any Imam/Scholar/teacher as such, when Allah Himself is The Teacher.

[AbdAlRahman]

Salam and Peace on you!

Did you yourself hear the Prophet saying all this?-----No! Never!
Then how can you claim that the Prophet said this, when he knew nothing of the future

-----"Say (O Messenger) ?I do not say to you that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor that I know the Unseen." (650)

Indeed, the best people of this last Ummah are those who were the Sahaba of the Messenger.
What made them the best of the ummah?-----Indeed, they obeyed the Messenger by following Al-Quran, the way they saw the Messenger himself following It.

So, all those people on the earth, until Al-Qiyamah, who follow Al-Quran, are the best of the ummah.

What is Allah's Quran for???
Is it not a Complete and Fully Detailed Book?

And how can we see our ancestors what they did, when all of them have passed away and are no more with us?---We can not see them, or hear and talk to them.

Allah has stopped us from establishing any kind of relationship with the Sahaba of the Messenger.

-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do." (Al-Baqarah-134)

Allah's Quran is what the Messenger himself followed, what the Sahaba followed, and what we have to follow.

-----"The Beneficent. Has taught the Quran. He has created man. He has taught him speech." (551-4)

What do you call the one who teaches you?-----Indeed, Teacher.

So, Allah who created us, is our Creator.
The Creator taught us to speak.
And The Creator taught us His Exalted Quran.

So, Allah is The Teacher, indeed.

So, the fact is that the Messenger is not with us. He has passed away.
In fact, It was Allah's Quran with which the Messenger taught people.
So, Allah's Quran is with us. The Easiest Book on the face of the earth.
Read it and follow Its Teachings.

The above words are not a Verse from Al-Quran.

There is no institution of Clergies in Al-Quran. We don't need any Imam/Scholar/teacher as such, when Allah Himself is The Teacher.

" , , " . .

This is the link between us and the profit, and that's why that the companions are much better than us, because Allah made them one of the reasons to protect that religion, and our Quran is protected since more than 1400 years, memorized at the chests and the books, and no one can delete or increase even one letter, that's why our friend jafar can't delete the letter he wants to delete and change the meaning of the Quran, and that the difference between us and jewish and christians, since they don't have a link to their profits, and that's why they increased and decreased at their books as they want.

That first and second, if you are using your head, or I am not sure if you ever read the holy Quran before, when Mousi and Alkedr met, and Elkedr made hole at the ship, and so on... and at the end he said And none of what I did was of my own accord, although what he did was depending in the future, because Allah taught him some of the future.

Same for the profit, he doesn't know the future, even the angles don't know the future, but Allah told him about some of the future.

Like what he said that before the hour, the killing will increase, and as we can see know people are killed daily without a reason, the killer don't know why he killed, and the one who was killed don't know why he was killed.

And what he told that the women will increase and the men will decrease, which we can see right now.

And a lot and a lot.

[AbdAlRahman]

" , , " . .

This is the link between us and the profit, and that's why that the companions are much better than us, because Allah made them one of the reasons to protect that religion, and our Quran is protected since more than 1400 years, memorized at the chests and the books, and no one can delete or increase even one letter, that's why our friend jafar can't delete the letter he wants to delete and change the meaning of the Quran, and that the difference between us and jewish and christians, since they don't have a link to their profits, and that's why they increased and decreased at their books as they want.

That first and second, if you are using your head, or I am not sure if you ever read the holy Quran before, when Mousi and Alkedr met, and Elkedr made hole at the ship, and so on... and at the end he said And none of what I did was of my own accord, although what he did was depending in the future, because Allah taught him some of the future.

Same for the profit, he doesn't know the future, even the angles don't know the future, but Allah told him about some of the future.

Like what he said that before the hour, the killing will increase, and as we can see know people are killed daily without a reason, the killer don't know why he killed, and the one who was killed don't know why he was killed.

And what he told that the women will increase and the men will decrease, which we can see right now.

And a lot and a lot.

Every thing has been mentioned at the Holy Quran.
The Preservation of Sunnah
Monday, 11 October 2010 1913 Mohammed Ibrahim
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"Verily, it is We who have sent down the Dhikr, (i.e. the Qu'ran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)." (Al-Hijr 159)

In this verse, Allah has assured the preservation of the Qur'an. This implies that the Qur'an will remain unchanged and that it shall always be transferred from one generation to the other in its real and original form, undistorted by any foreign element. The question before us is whether protection is restricted to the words of the Qur'an or does it extend to its meanings. If the Prophetic explanation is necessary to understand the Qur'an correctly, then the preservation of the Qur'anic words alone cannot serve the purpose unless the Prophetic explanations are also preserved.

"And We have also sent down unto you the Reminder and the Advice (the Qur'an) that you may explain clearly to the people what has been sent down for them" (An-Nahl 1644)

The word ?Dhikr' has been used here to mean the Qur'an and it has been made clear that the people can only benefit from its guidance when they are led by the explanations of the Prophet .

Again the words "to the people" in the ayah indicate that the Prophet's explanation is always needed by everyone. If everyone in every age is in need of the Prophetic explanation, without which they CANNOT fully comprehend the Qur'an, how would it be useful for them to preserve the Qur'anic text and leave its Prophetic explanation at the mercy of distorters, extending to it no type of protection whatsoever.

Therefore, once the necessity of the Prophetic explanations of the Qur'an is accepted, it will be self contradictory to claim that these explanations are unavailable today. It will amount to negating the protection, because it is in no way a wise policy to establish the necessity of the Sunnah on the one hand, and to make its discovery (preservation) impossible on the other. Such a deficiency cannot be attributed to Allah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

What follows is a brief account of the measures taken by the Ummah to preserve the Sunnah of the Prophet .

Different Ways of Preserving the Ahadith

As we shall see, the Sahabah (raa) of the Prophet committed a large number of Ahadith to writing. Yet, the ink and paper was not the sole means of their preservation. There were many other ways.

1. Memorization

The Sahabah (raa) of the Prophet use to learn Ahadith by heart. The Prophet said "May Allah bestow vigour to a person who hears my saying and learns it by heart, then conveys it to others exactly as he hears it?." (Tirmidhi)

The Sahabah (raa) were eager to follow this Hadith and used to devote a considerable amount of time for committing Ahadith to their memories. A large number of them left their homes and began to live in the Mosque of the Prophet so that they may hear the Ahadith directly from the mouth of the Prophet .They spent all their time exclusively in securing the Ahadith in their hearts. The Arabs had such strong memories that they would easily memorize hundreds of verses of their poetry. Nearly all of them knew by heart detailed pedigrees of not only themselves, but also their horses and camels. Even their children had enough knowledge of the pedigrees of different tribes. Hammad is a famous narrator of Arab poetry. It is reported that he knew by heart one hundred long poems for each letter from their alphabet, meaning that he knew three thousand and thirty eight long poems (Al-A'lam by Zrikli 2131)

The Arabs were so proud of their power of memorization that they placed more confidence in it than in writing. Some poets deemed it a blemish to preserve their poetry in writing. They believed that writings on paper can be tampered with, while the memory cannot be distorted by anyone. If any poets have written some of their poems, they did not like to disclose this fact, because it would be indicative of a defect in their memory (Al-Aghani V.61 P611)

The Sahabah (raa) utilized this memory for preserving Ahadith which they deemed to be the only source of guidance along with the Qur'an. It is obvious that their enthusiasm towards the preservation of Ahadith far exceeded their zeal for preserving their poetry and literature. They used their memory in respect of Ahadith with more vigor and more precaution.

Abu Hurairah (ra), the famous companion of the Prophet who has reported 5374 Ahadith, says, "I have divided my night into three parts. In one third of the night I perform Salah, in one third I sleep and in one third I memorize the Ahadith of the Prophet ." (Sunan Darimi)

At one time, Marwan, the governor of Madinah, tried to test his memory. He invited him to his house where he asked him to narrate some Ahadith. Marwan simultaneously ordered his scribe Abu Zu-aizi-ah to sit behind a curtain and write the Ahadith reported by Abu Hurairah (ra).The scribe recorded the Ahadith. After a year he invited Abu Hurairah (ra) again and requested him to repeat what he narrated last year, and likewise ordered Abu Zu'aizi'ah to sit behind a curtain and compare the present words of Abu Hurairah with the Ahadith he had already written previously. Abu Hurairah (ra) began to repeat the Ahadith while Abu Zu'aizi'ah compared them. He found that Abu Hurairah did not leave a single word, nor did he change any word from his earlier narration's. (AE Bidayaah wa Nahayah and Wa Seer Alam al NibIaa' Lil Zahabi)

In addition, the scholars of Hadith developed the science of Asma ?ur-Rijal by which they have deduced reliable means to test the memory power of each narrator of Ahadith. They never accepted any Hadith as reliable unless all of its narrators were proved to have high memory standards.

Thus, "memory-power" in the Science of Hadith is not a vague term of general nature. It is a technical term having specified criteria to test the veracity of narrators. A great number of scholars of the sciences of "Asma ?ur-Rijal" and "Jarh and Ta'dil" have devoted their lives to examine the reporters of Hadith on that criteria. Their task was to judge the memory power of each narrator and to record objective opinions about them.

2. Discussions

The second source of preservation of Ahadith was by mutual discussions held by the Sahabah (raa). Whenever they came to know of a new Sunnah, they used to narrate it to others. Thus, all the Sahabah (raa) would tell each other what they had learnt from the Prophet . This was to comply with the specific directions given by the Prophet in this respect. Here are some Ahadith to this effect

"Those present should convey (my Sunnah) to those absent." (Bukhari)

"Convey to others on my behalf, even though it be a single verse." (Bukhari)

"May Allah grant vigour to a person who listens to my saying and learns it by heart until he conveys it to others." (Tirmidhi)

"You hear (my sayings) and others will hear from you, then others will hear from them." (Abu Da'wud)

The Prophet motivated the Sahabah (raa) to study the Ahadith in their meetings. The word used for this study is Tadarus which means "to teach each other." One person would narrate a particular Hadith to the other, and in turn, he would repeat it to the first, and so on. The purpose was to learn it correctly. Each one would listen to the other's version and correct his mistake, if any. The result of this Tadarus (discussion) was to remember the Ahadith as firmly as possible. The Prophet has held this process of Tadarus to be more meritorious with Allah than the individual rituals of worship throughout the night.

The Prophet said "Tadarus (discussion) of knowledge for any period of time in the night, is better than spending the entire night in worship" (Jam'ia Bayan at urn lbn Adul Berr)

Moreover, the Prophet has also warned, that it is a major sin to hide a word of ?knowledge' whenever it is asked for

"Whoever is questioned pertaining to such knowledge that he has and thereafter conceals it, will be bridled by a rein of fire." (Tirmidhi)

At another occasion the Prophet explained that the concealment of ?knowledge' is in itself a major sin, even thought the person having that knowledge is not asked about it. He said "Whoever conceals knowledge which can be benefited from, will come on the Day of Judgement bridled with a rein of fire." (Jam'ia Bayan Al Ilm Ibn Abdul Berr)

The Hadith makes it clear that the disclosure of knowledge is an inherent obligation on each knowledgeable person, no matter whether he is asked about it or not. The frequent discussions have played an important role in the preservation of the Sunnah. It was by the virtue of these discussions that the Ahadith known only by some individuals were conveyed to others, and the circle of narrators gradually expanded. Since these discussions were carried out at a time when the Prophet was himself present among them, they had the full opportunity to confirm the veracity of what has been conveyed to them in this process, and some of them actually did so.

3. Practice

The third way of preservation of the Sunnah was to bring it into practice.

The knowledge of Sunnah was not merely a theoretical understanding, nor were the teachings of the Prophet merely philosophical disposition. They were and are intimately connected to the affairs of this life. The Prophet did not confine himself to giving lessons and sermons, he also trained the Sahabah (raa) practically. Whatever they absorbed from the Prophet , they spared no effort to bring it into actual practice.

Thus, the entire atmosphere was one of following the Sunnah. The Sunnah was not a verbal report only, it was a living practice, a wide spread behavior and a current fashion manifesting itself in all concerns of society, in all the affairs of their daily life.

Therefore, constant practice in accordance with dictates of the Sunnah was another major factor which advanced the process of preserving the Sunnah.

4. Writing

The fourth way of preserving the Ahadith was through the pen. Quite a large number of the Sahabah (raa) committed the Ahadith to paper after hearing them from the Prophet . It is true that in the beginning the Prophet had forbidden some of his Sahabah (raa) from writing anything other than the verses of the Qur'an. However, this prohibition was not because the Ahadith had no authoritative value, but because the Prophet had in the same breath ordered them to orally narrate his Ahadith. The full text of the relevant Hadith is as follows

"Do not write (what you hear) from me, and whoever has written something (he heard) from me, he should erase it. Narrate to others (what you hear) from me and whoever deliberately attributes a lie to me, he should prepare his seat in the Fire." (Muslim)

The underlined phrase of the Hadith clarifies that the prohibition for writing Hadith was not on account of negating its authority. The actual reason was that in the beginning of the revelation of the Qur'an, the Sahabah (raa) were not fully familiar with the Qur'anic style, nor was the Qur'an compiled in a separate book form. In those days some Sahabah (raa) began to write the Ahadith along with the Qur'anic text. It was therefore feared that it would lead to mixing the Qur'anic text with the Ahadith.

But this was the case in the earlier period of his Prophethood. When the Sahabah (raa) became fully conversant of the style of the Qur'an and writing paper became available, this transitory measure of precaution was eliminated, because the danger of mixing the Qur'an with the Ahadith no longer existed.

At this stage, the Prophet himself directed his companions to write down the Ahadith. Some of his instructions in this respect are quoted below

1. One Sahabi (ra) from the Ansar complained to the Prophet that he hears from him some Ahadith, but he sometimes forgets them. The Prophet said "Seek help from your right hand and pointed to a writing." (Tirmidhi)

2. Rafe' ibn Khadij (ra), says, "I said to the Prophet we hear from you many things, should we write them down?" He replied "You may write. There is no harm." (Tadrib ar-Rarawi)

3. ?Abdullah ibn ?Amr ibn al-'Aas reported that the Prophet said to him "Preserve Knowledge." He asked, "and how should it be preserved?" The Prophet replied "Writing it."

In another report he says, "I came to the Prophet and told him, "I want to narrate your Ahadith. So, I want to take assistance of my handwriting besides my heart. Do you deem it fit for me? The Prophet replied, "If it is my Hadith, you may seek help from your hand besides your heart." (Darimi)

It was for this reason that he used to write Ahadith frequently. He himself says, "I used to write whatever I heard from the Prophet and wanted to learn it by heart. Some people of the Quraysh dissuaded me and said, "Do you write everything you hear from the Prophet , while he is a human being and sometimes he may be in anger as any other human beings may be?" (Abu Da'wud)

They meant that the Prophet might say something in a state of anger which he did not seriously intend. So, one should be selective in writing this Ahadith. ?Abdullah ibn ?Amr conveyed their opinion to the Prophet . In reply, the Prophet pointed to his lips and said,

"I swear by the One in Whose hands is the soul of Muhammad, nothing comes out from these two (lips) except truth. So, do write." (Abu Da'wud)

In compliance to this order, ?Abdullah ibn ?Amr wrote a large number of Ahadith and compiled them in a book from which he named "Al Sahifah al Sadiqah."

These examples are more than sufficient to prove that the writing of Ahadith was not only permitted but also ordered by the Prophet and that the earlier ban against writing was only for a transitory period to avoid the possible mixing between the verses of the Qur'an and the Ahadith.

After this transitory period, the fear of mixing ended, the bar was lifted and the companions were persuaded to preserve Ahadith in a written form. When we study individual efforts of the companions for compiling Ahadith, we find that thousands of Ahadith were written in the very days of the Prophet and the four Khalifs. The following is a brief account of some outstanding compilations of Ahadith in that early period. It will, at least, refute the misconception that the Ahadith were not compiled during the first three centuries!

The Transcript of Sadaqah by ?Abdullah bin ?Amr bin aI-'Aas

1. The Prophet has dictated detailed documents containing rules of Shari'ah about the levying of Zakah, and specifying the amount and rate of Zakah in respect of different Zakatable assets. This document was named "al-Sahifah al Sadaqah." ?Abdullah ibn ?Umar (ra) says

"The Prophet dictated the Transcript of Sadaqah and it was sent to his governors when he passed away. He had attached it to his sword. When he passed away, Abu Bakr acted according to it till he passed away, then ?Umar acted according to it till he passed away..." (Tirmidhi)

The text of this transcript is available in several books of Ahadith like the Sunan of Abu Da'wud. Imam Zuhri, the renowned scholar of Hadith used to teach this transcript to his pupils. He used to say

"This is the text of the transcript dictated by the Prophet about the rules of Sadaqah (Zakah). Its original manuscript is with the children of Sayyidina ?Umar. Salim, the grandson of ?Umar had taught it to me. I had learnt it by heart. ?Umar ibn Abdul-'Aziz had procured a copy of this text from Salim and ?Abdullah, the grandsons of ?Umar. I have the same copy with me." (Abu Da'wud)

The Script of ?Amr b. Hazm

In 10 A.H., when Najran was liberated by the Muslims, the Prophet appointed his Sahabi (ra) ?Amr ibn Hazm as governor of the province of Yemen. At this time, the Prophet dictated a detailed transcript to Ubayy ibn Ka'b and handed it over to ?Amr ibn Hazm. This transcript, besides some general advice, contains the rules of Shari'ah about purification, Salah, Zakah, ?Ushr, Hajj Umrah, Jihad, spoils, taxes, Diyah (blood money), administration, education etc. Sayyidina Amr lbn Hazm performed his functions as governor of Yemen in light of this transcript.

After his death this transcript remained with his grandson, Abu Bakr, Irnam Zuhri learned and copied it from him. He used to teach to his pupils. (Al-Wasaig al Siyasiyyah, Dr. Hamidullah)

The Scripts of Abu Hurairah

It is well-known that Abu Hurairah (ra) has narrated more Ahadith than any other Sahabi (ra) of the Prophet . The number of Ahadith reported by him is said to be 5374. The reason was that he, after embracing Islam, devoted his full life for the sole purpose of bearing and preserving the Ahadith of the Prophet .

There are concrete evidences to support the understanding that he had preserved the Ahadith in written form. One of his pupils, namely, Hasan ibn ?Amr reports that once

"Abu Hurairah (ra) took him to his home and showed him "many books" containing the Ahadith of the Prophet " (Jam'ia Bayan al lIm and Fath al Bari)

It shows that Abu Hurairah had many scripts of Ahadith with him. It is also established that a number of his pupils had prepared several scripts of his narrations.

The Script of Anas

Anas ibn Malik was one of those Sahabi (ra) of the Prophet who knew writing. His mother had brought him to the Prophet when he was ten years old. He remained with the Prophet for ten years during which he heard a large number of Ahadith and wrote them down. Sa'eed ibn Hilal, one of his pupils says

When we insisted upon Anas, he would bring to us some notebooks and say, "These are what I have heard and written from the Prophet after which I have presented them to the Prophet for confirmation." (Mustadrak aI Hakim)

It shows that Anas (ra) had not only written a large number of Ahadith in several note books, but had also showed them to the Prophet who had confirmed them.

The Script of ?Ali

It is well known that ?Ali (ra) had a script of Ahadith with him. He says

"I have not written anything from the Prophet except the Qur'an and what is contained in this script." (Bukhani)

Imam Bukhari has mentioned this script in six different places of his Sahih. A combined study of all those places reveals that this script was substantially large and it consisted of Ahadith about Qisas (retaliation), Diyah (blood money), Fidyah (ransom), rights of Ahlul Dhimma (non- Muslim citizens) of the Islamic State, some specific kinds of inheritance, Zakah rules pertaining to camels of different ages, and some rules about the sanctity of the city of Medinah.

The Script was written by ?Ali (ra) in the days of the Prophet . Then, during the early days of the Khilafah, he felt that the Ahadith of the Prophet should be spread among the people to widen the range of Islamic knowledge.

It is reported by the famous historian Ibn Sa'd that he stood in the mosque and delivered a lecture. Then he asked the people, "Who will purchase ?knowledge' for one Dirham only?"

He meant that whoever wanted to learn Ahadith, should buy writing paper for one Dirham and come to him, for dictation of the Ahadith of the Prophet .

Scripts of Ibn ?Abbas

?Abdullah ibn Abbas (ra) was the cousin of the Prophet . When the Prophet passed away, he was very young. In order to preserve Ahadith, he began to compile what he himself heard from the Prophet as well as those narrated by other Sahabah (raa). Whenever he came to know of any Sahabi (ra) having some Ahadith, he would travel to him to hear them. All such Ahadith were compiled by him in several scripts. These scripts numbered so many that they could be loaded on a camel. These scripts remained with his pupil, Kuraib. Musa ibn ?Uqbah, the famous historian says

"Kuraib left with us a camel load of Ibn Abbas' books. When ?All ibn ?Abdullah ibn Abbas would need a book from them, he wrote to Kuraib, "Send for me such and such books' He would then transcribe the book and send to him one of the two copies." (Takat ibn Sa'ad)

The pupils of Ibn Abbas (ra) would copy these scripts and read them to him to confirm the correctness of the copies. (Tirmidhi)

Sometimes Ibn Abbas (ra) would narrate the Ahadith to his pupils while they would record them. (Darimi)

Therefore, this is a proof for those Muslims with a defeated mentality and for those outside the pale of Islam who attack the Islamic Aqeedah claiming that the Ahadith are not authentic or reliable.

This brief article proves without doubt that the Sunnah of the Prophet was indeed given scrupulous attention during the life of the Prophet .

In conclusion, the Protection of Allah extends over the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

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Salam and Peace on you!

Did you yourself hear the Prophet saying all this?-----No! Never!
Then how can you claim that the Prophet said this, when he knew nothing of the future

-----"Say (O Messenger) ?I do not say to you that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor that I know the Unseen." (650)

Indeed, the best people of this last Ummah are those who were the Sahaba of the Messenger.
What made them the best of the ummah?-----Indeed, they obeyed the Messenger by following Al-Quran, the way they saw the Messenger himself following It.

So, all those people on the earth, until Al-Qiyamah, who follow Al-Quran, are the best of the ummah.

What is Allah's Quran for???
Is it not a Complete and Fully Detailed Book?

And how can we see our ancestors what they did, when all of them have passed away and are no more with us?---We can not see them, or hear and talk to them.

Allah has stopped us from establishing any kind of relationship with the Sahaba of the Messenger.

-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do." (Al-Baqarah-134)

Allah's Quran is what the Messenger himself followed, what the Sahaba followed, and what we have to follow.

-----"The Beneficent. Has taught the Quran. He has created man. He has taught him speech." (551-4)

What do you call the one who teaches you?-----Indeed, Teacher.

So, Allah who created us, is our Creator.
The Creator taught us to speak.
And The Creator taught us His Exalted Quran.

So, Allah is The Teacher, indeed.

So, the fact is that the Messenger is not with us. He has passed away.
In fact, It was Allah's Quran with which the Messenger taught people.
So, Allah's Quran is with us. The Easiest Book on the face of the earth.
Read it and follow Its Teachings.

The above words are not a Verse from Al-Quran.

There is no institution of Clergies in Al-Quran. We don't need any Imam/Scholar/teacher as such, when Allah Himself is The Teacher.

"And We have also sent down unto you the Reminder and the Advice (the Qur'an) that you may explain clearly to the people what has been sent down for them" (An-Nahl 1644)

The reminder here means the Sunnah, because it explains to people the Quran, the profit said

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"Verily I have been given the Quran and that which is similar to it along with it. Verily it may be that a man will be full and resting on his side and say This Quran is for you what you find in it lawful take as lawful and what you find in it unlawful take as unlawful. What the Messenger makes unlawful is like what Allah makes unlawful??

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(Imam at-Tirmidhi) said, ?This tradition is good.

"Truly I was given the Qur'an and its like together," meaning the Sunna.
The Sunna, too, came down upon him by inspiration, just like the Qur'an, except that the Sunna was not recited as was the Qur'an.

That means that the Sunna is protected like the Quran is protected.

If you ever prayed, tell me where it is mentioned in the quraan how many times we should pray in the day at night.

It is mentioned in the Quran in general to pray, but the Sunna came with details about how to pray.

So the Sunnah explains the Quran

And it was mentioned in the Quran to follow the sunnah

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"And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it). "

Whoever declines the Sunnah is unbeliever and non Muslim

And peace will be upon him who follows the guidance!'&#039 (48.

[AbdAlRahman]

Salam and Peace on you!

Did you yourself hear the Prophet saying all this?-----No! Never!
Then how can you claim that the Prophet said this, when he knew nothing of the future

-----"Say (O Messenger) ?I do not say to you that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor that I know the Unseen." (650)

Indeed, the best people of this last Ummah are those who were the Sahaba of the Messenger.
What made them the best of the ummah?-----Indeed, they obeyed the Messenger by following Al-Quran, the way they saw the Messenger himself following It.

So, all those people on the earth, until Al-Qiyamah, who follow Al-Quran, are the best of the ummah.

What is Allah's Quran for???
Is it not a Complete and Fully Detailed Book?

And how can we see our ancestors what they did, when all of them have passed away and are no more with us?---We can not see them, or hear and talk to them.

Allah has stopped us from establishing any kind of relationship with the Sahaba of the Messenger.

-----"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do." (Al-Baqarah-134)

Allah's Quran is what the Messenger himself followed, what the Sahaba followed, and what we have to follow.

-----"The Beneficent. Has taught the Quran. He has created man. He has taught him speech." (551-4)

What do you call the one who teaches you?-----Indeed, Teacher.

So, Allah who created us, is our Creator.
The Creator taught us to speak.
And The Creator taught us His Exalted Quran.

So, Allah is The Teacher, indeed.

So, the fact is that the Messenger is not with us. He has passed away.
In fact, It was Allah's Quran with which the Messenger taught people.
So, Allah's Quran is with us. The Easiest Book on the face of the earth.
Read it and follow Its Teachings.

The above words are not a Verse from Al-Quran.

There is no institution of Clergies in Al-Quran. We don't need any Imam/Scholar/teacher as such, when Allah Himself is The Teacher.

First the verse wasn't speaking about the companions of the profit.

]"That was a nation (the Messengers, their companions) which has passed away. For them is that which they earned, and for you is that which you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do." (

That's your addition.

Here is the verse

(139. Say (O Muhammad to the Jews and Christians), "Dispute you with us about Allah while He is our Lord and your Lord And we are to be rewarded for our deeds and you for your deeds. And we are sincere to Him (i.e. we worship Him alone and none else, and we obey His orders).'&#039 (140. Or say you that Ibrahim, Ismail, Ishaq, Yaqub and Al-Asbat, were Jews or Christians Say, "Do you know better or does Allah And who is more unjust than he who conceals the testimony he has from Allah And Allah is not unaware of what you do.'&#039 (141. That was a nation who has passed away. They shall receive the reward of what they earned, and you of what you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do.)

The verse wasn't speaking about our prophet at all.

Second we only describe Allah with what he described himself.

He didn't describe himself with a teacher, but he knows everything, and indeed he taught us everything through his profit, but we aren't his students, and he didn't describe himself as a teacher.

Even the profit, Allah describes him by saying

5. He has been taught by one mighty in power.

Which means Gabril peace upon him.

Allah didn't only guided the human being, but also guided all the universe, like the bees, ants how to live and survive, but that doesn't mean that he is a teacher.

Even sometimes a teacher may learn from his students, that doesn't make him their student, and them the teacher.

The way that we deal with the names of Allah, that we only describe Allah with what he described himself with, and he never described him self by being a teacher and we are his students,

13. What is the matter with you, that you do not hope for any Waqar from Allah)

Again The relationship between us and God, it is a relation between a creator and a slave, not a student and a teacher.

. And the Jews and the Christians say "We are the children of Allah and His loved ones.'' Say "Why then does He punish you for your sins'' Nay, you are but human beings of those He has created, He forgives whom He wills and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them; and to Him is the return (of all).

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"And We have also sent down unto you the Reminder and the Advice (the Qur'an) that you may explain clearly to the people what has been sent down for them" (An-Nahl 1644)

The reminder here means the Sunnah, because it explains to people the Quran, the profit said

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"Verily I have been given the Quran and that which is similar to it along with it. Verily it may be that a man will be full and resting on his side and say This Quran is for you what you find in it lawful take as lawful and what you find in it unlawful take as unlawful. What the Messenger makes unlawful is like what Allah makes unlawful??

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The Reminder is the Quran. Allah never approved any teachings beside what He revealed, and warns specifically against it.
"And thus have We sent it down an Arabic Quran, and have distinctly set forth therein of threats that they may guard or that it may produce a reminder for them." Surah 20113
" " Surah 20113

"Or have they taken gods apart from Him? Say 'Bring your proof! This is the Remembrance of him who is with me, and the Remembrance of those before me. Nay, but the most part of them know not the truth, so therefore they are turning away." Surah 2124
" " Surah 2124

"and the reciters of a Remembrance, " Surah 373
" " Surah 373

"This is a Remembrance; and for the godfearing is a fair resort," Surah 3849
" " Surah 3849

"It is nothing but a reminder unto all beings," Surah 3887
" " Surah 3887

"Those who disbelieve in the Remembrance when it comes to them -- and surely it is a Book Sublime;" Surah 4141
" " Surah 4141

"Surely it is a Reminder to thee and to thy people; and assuredly you will be questioned." Surah 4344
" " Surah 4344

Let us turn to the Quran, and the teachings of the People of the Book to see who is on the right path, and who is led astray.

Those who uphold hadith reject the Quran. Allah has not given authority to follow anything but what He revealed.

?Follow what has been revealed to you from your Lord and do not follow guardians besides Him, how little do you mind.? Surah 73

Take a test and see if you obey Allah and the Messenger, or if you obey the way of the ancients.
This is ?pass or fail?, just as it will be on the Day of Judgment. Let us see who truly rejects the Quran.

Muhammad (pbuh) was revealed the Quran by Allah, and it was the Prophet (pbuh) who taught us the Quran. Only in the Quran, the pure, protected revelation, do we have proof of the Messenger?s words
"Say 'I do not find, in what is revealed to me, aught forbidden to him who eats thereof except it be carrion, or blood outpoured, or the flesh of swine -- that is unclean -- or an ungodly thing that has been blessed to other than Allah; yet whoso is constrained, not desiring nor transgressing, surely thy Lord is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.'" Surah 6145
That is the Prophet Muhammad speaking (pbuh). He states nothing is forbidden EXCEPT four specific foods. Carrion, blood, flesh of swine, and food blessed to another god.

Now turn to hadith, and count how many foods are forbidden within.
Then look to the additions in the Torah and find the same forbidden foods as the Jews ? Orthodox Yahduians who follow the Talmud, also known as the Oral Law.

Beasts with fangs Sahih Bukhari #5527, Sahih Muslim # 2721
Donkey Meat Sahih Bukhari #5521
Birds with talons Sahih Muslim # 4752
Amphibians Saheeh Jaami #6970

Beasts with fangs Lev. 113; Deut. 146
Donkey Meat Lev. 113-4, Deut. 147
Birds with talons Lev. 1113-20, Deut. 1412
Amphibians Lev. 1129-30, 42-43, Deut. 1410

Halal/kosher food Lev. 111-46, Deut. 143-21

A follower of hadith cannot say these were revealed to Muhammad and passed on in hadith, because Allah verifies what the Jews were forbidden

"And to those of Jewry We have forbidden every beast with claws; and of oxen and sheep We have forbidden them the fat of them, save what their backs carry, or their entrails, or what is mingled with bone; that We recompensed them for their insolence; surely We speak truly." Surah 6146

Allah revealed to the Messenger that all foods not forbidden in the Quran were permitted to the People of the Book, abrogating the previous Messages The Torah and Injeel.
?Today the good things are permitted you, and the food of those who were given the Book is permitted to you, and permitted to them is your food; Likewise believing women in wedlock, and in wedlock women of them who were given the Book before you if you give them their wages, in wedlock and not in licence, or as taking lovers. Whoso disbelieves in the faith, his work has failed, and in the world to come he shall be among the losers.? Surah 55

Who, when proof is given, is shown to reject the Quran and who is shown to uphold it?

"The Truth has come and falsehood vanished. Surely falsehood is ever bound to vanish." Surah 1781, 3447-50

Only believers, Muslims with faith in their heart pass the test Those who uphold the revelation of Allah, the word of an honored Messenger The Quran.

Followers of hadith follow teachings of the Jews and Christians, rewritten into hadith.

Terrorism, violence and intolerance Deut. 2010-18, Num. 3117, Num. 3132-35, Joshua 621-24, I Sam.l 1827, I Kings 1840
Religious compulsion (kill unbelievers) Lev. 2416, Ph. 210; Deut 172-7, II Chron.1513, Deut. 135-10
Apostasy Deut. 135-10
Suicide Mission Judges 1627-30
Stoning Adulterers Deut. 2223-24, Lev. 210, John 86-8
Sunni ?Al-Aqeedah? Gen. 221-19, James 221, Heb. 117, Rom. 416
Halal/kosher food Lev. 111-46
Genital mutilation Gen. 1713-14, Gen. 1723-25, Exo. 424-26
Cut off hand/feet Deut. 2511-12, Mat. 530, Mark 943-45
Grow a beard Lev. 1927, Lev. 215, II Sam. 105
Cover your head Lev. 106, II Maccabes 4412, Shabbat 156b
?Cover your head in order that the fear of heaven may be upon you.? ~ Talmud
Djjal/All-Seeing Eye/Head Corner-stone Job 384-7, Zech. 1117, Mat. 622, Luke 1134, Eph. 221-22, Rev. 16213, Rev. 1920, Rev. 2010
Slavery Lev. 2544-46, Lev. 2210-11, Exo. 2132
Females are unclean Lev. 122-5, Lev. 1519-25
Proof of virginity Deut. 2215-21
Raped girl should be killed Deut. 2222-29
Hijab I Cor. 113-6
Men dominate women I Cor. 113, I Peter 31-7, Eph. 522-24
Daughters are property Exo. 217
Women have no rights I Tim. 211-15, I Cor. 1434-36
Pedophilia Sanhedrin 52b, 54b, 55b, 69a, Kethuboth 11b, Yebamoth 60b

If you uphold hadith until your appointed term, the Fire will be your reward because you commit idolatry. The only unforgivable sin is idolatry.

Idolatry nullifies all works Surah 3965, 448, 4116, 12106, 3113, 4066
"And certainly, it has been revealed to you and to those before you Surely if you associate, your work would certainly come to naught and you would certainly be of the losers." Surah 3965

"Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and He forgives what is besides this to whom He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he indeed strays off into a remote error." Surah 4116

If you ever prayed, tell me where it is mentioned in the quraan how many times we should pray in the day at night.

It is mentioned in the Quran in general to pray, but the Sunna came with details about how to pray.

Prove it. Show us, using hadith, how to pray as you pray. Show us where it gives the exact details on the positions, the times, the phrases to utter, everything.
When you cannot show this, you will then understand hadith does not teach you how to pray. )
The Question remains Where do they get the 5 prayers from?
From the Jews ? Orthodox Yahudians - and the Zoroastrians.

In the book ?To Pray As A Jew ? A Guide to the Prayer Book and the Synagogue Service? by Rabbi Hayim Halvey Donin, we find not only the five prayer times the foundation for the memorized phrases as well 19 ritualized prayers according to Rabbi Donin?s book, found on page 74 to 75.

The 5 times for prayer are found on pages 337-341, divided between Morning, Noon, and Night. as taught in the Talmud. This is not the Torah/Tankah ? also known as the Old Testament or Hebrew Bible.

Where did the Yahudians get their prayer times? According to Rabbi Donin, they were affixed by Ezra and the Great Assembly after their exile in Babylon. He even states the times were set to correspond with the time of services in the Temple. An outline of their prayer times is found on page 68.

These times were incorporated from the Zoroastrian ?Geh?; Namaz taught during their exile in Babylon. Zoroastrian Magi adopted the Kabbalist esoteric teachings into their doctrine, incorporating the 5 equinoxes of Venus and earth into Namaz/prayer; Homage to the 5 pointed star. Syncretism.
The same periods of time the Islamists pray and as the Zoraostrians prayed.

Prayer Islamist ? Judaism ? Zoroastrian
Morning
Dawn Fajr ? Shaharit ? Havaan
Midday
Noon Zuhar ? Musaf ? Rapithwan
Afternoon Asr ? Minha ? Uziren
Evening
Evening Maghrib ? Maariv ? Aiwisuthrem
Night Isha ? Shema ? Ushaen

These periods of prayer are found in the Zoroastrian Avesta and still taught by Zoroastrian?s today. It is worth noting in the Arthur H. Bleeck translation of the Avesta, he details in the 'Excursus' appendix the similarities between Zoroastrian practice and Freemasonry.

Pharisee - Farsi

These teachings were adopted by the Pharisees; Persian Yahudians who follow the Babylonian Talmud. Pharisee, derived from the word Farsi ? the language of Persia, were the Orthodox Jews who were condemned by the Messiah (pbuh) in the Gospel Accounts, for following traditions beside what Allah revealed.

Is it any wonder the Islamists uphold pagan prayer when Bukhari is from the lands of Persia? P

Polytheists cannot understand Allah did not teach Namaz ? pagan prayer. The word namaz or namaaz is used in modern Persian to mean prayer. It is derived from namazh, in turn derived from the Middle Persian namaach, a word with roots in the Avestan nemangh. The word namaz is now also used by Persian and Indo-Pakistani Muslims to mean prayer.

Namaz/Namaaz (Persian) ? Namaach ? Nemangh

More information on Zoroastrian beliefs can be found at
http//heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/worship/index.htm

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"And whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it). "

Then why do you follow the teachings of the Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians when the Quran is specific on what is forbidden, and what is not? )
You pray as the Jews and Zoroastrians.
You eat the foods of a Jew.
You don't even face the qiblah given in the Quran. You face the Kaaba, which is Bayt Al-Haram. The Quran commands you to face Masjid Al-Haram; the building that surrounds the Kaaba.

You follow the teachings of the ancients, the teachings of polytheists and hypocrites.

The reminder is given, and proofs are shown.
Do you submit to Allah?

Peace.

[Paradox_Uncreated]

God can teach about the future, if he wills. However Al-khidr wasn`t taught about the future, but he used his mind. He was "taught by the presence of God". Taught to think for himself.

"And We have also sent down unto you the Reminder and the Advice (the Qur'an) that you may explain clearly to the people what has been sent down for them" (An-Nahl 1644)

Your sectarian bias prevents you from seeing this verse as it should be read.
The explanation of the prophet IS The Quran, not hadith.
"you may explain" by "The reminder and advice".

To claim that hadith has been protected is simply absurd.